Ferguson protester faces four years' jail over charges of kicking SUV
Source: Guardian
Ferguson protester faces four years' jail over charges of kicking SUV
Brittany Ferrell accused by St Louis police of causing $5,000 damage to car as driver forced her way through demonstrators at Michael Brown anniversary
Jon Swaine in New York
@jonswaine
Wednesday 12 August 2015 21.09 EDT
A protest leader in Ferguson, Missouri, could face up to four years in prison after being charged with a felony for allegedly kicking a vehicle as it ploughed through a line of peaceful demonstrators who were blocking a highway.
Brittany Ferrell was accused of causing damage worth more than $5,000 to the SUV as its driver forced her way through the group, which had gathered on Interstate 70 near Ferguson during events to mark the anniversary of the fatal shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed black 18-year-old, by a police officer.
Ferrell, 26, was charged with first-degree property damage, which is a class D felony in Missouri. She was also charged with trespassing and disturbing the peace, according to Bob McCulloch, the prosecuting attorney for St Louis county, who oversaw the grand jury inquiry into Browns death. Ferrell was released on a $10,000 bond on Wednesday.
Ferrells wife, Alexis Templeton, was charged with misdemeanour assault for allegedly punching the driver through her vehicles window, and misdemeanour charges similar to Ferrells for alleged trespass and disturbing the peace. Templeton, 21, has also been released.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/13/ferguson-protester-faces-four-years-jail-over-charges-of-attacking-suv-and-driver
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cstanleytech
(26,303 posts)but sending her to jail is not justice, instead she should be sentenced to doing community service say 8 hours per week for the next 5 years.
elias49
(4,259 posts)You have to be kidding me!
She looks really dangerous!
just in case...
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)They are cheaply made and can dent easily. And on top of that if you dent a part of the car that includes one large part of the vehicle, there's you 5 grand. I believe it easily. Even if it is a small dent it can cost a lot to fix.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Car damage gets expensive fast.
CanonRay
(14,108 posts)what the hell kind of shoes was she wearing, spiked iron boots?
Gore1FL
(21,134 posts)The article makes it sound like we are at the sentencing phase of a trial that hasn't happened yet.
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/felony-offense/missouri-felony-class.htm
HFRN
(1,469 posts)maximum 4 years often translates to something like 20-30 days
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)I hope so for her future- nobody hires nurses with felony convictions on their record.
Of course, this now will forever follow her when any prospective employer googles her name...
jwirr
(39,215 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)You'll get ZERO more supporters for your cause. They ought to charge the others blocking the road as accessories
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)Without the threat of violence?
christx30
(6,241 posts)Not everyone is interested. And if you shove their face into it, you could turn someone that might be sympathetic toward your cause totally away from it.
Besides, walking on the interstate is stupid, as is blocking traffic. They are lucky to still be alive, when you're walking in an area with no stop lights, and cars going 60+ MPH. They are lucky no one slammed into the car that got kicked. I would have supported manslaughter charges if anyone had died because of their stupidity.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)who rolled her SUV through a group of pedestrians, no matter they were trespassing on the road.
Driver should have been charged with Reckless Endangerment, if there was a real danger of injury to persons in the roadway.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)And lets wait for sentancing and a trial. The odds she gets jail time are small. Give her a 10k fine and be done with it
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd pretend to support cars too when anything else would advertise my biases far too obviously for DU...
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Wow. Those are great photos.
Judi Lynn
(160,584 posts)Depends upon who has committed an either completely understandable act, or an unholy crime, doesn't it?
Unbelievable!
Fortunately, Democrats aren't so unbalanced.
7962
(11,841 posts)No to mention the whole hands up dont shoot never happened. This was the wrong event to make a big deal.
Eric Garner should be the poster boy for the bad cop issue. We see him, as it happens, being strangled to death for NO reason. The man in SC shot in the back running away, unarmed. The man in Utah shot for not turning around. The student in Alabama. Athens ga. Its a long list.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)to the same thing. Darren Wilson murdered an unarmed civilian who he was paid to protect and serve. Being a cop in a district where the DA is racist and refuses to prosecute cops' violence against minorities is not even fucking close to being innocent.
hill2016
(1,772 posts)Page 78, legal analysis.
The evidence discussed above does not meet the standards for presentation of an
indictment set forth in the USAM and in the governing federal law. The evidence is insufficient
to establish probable cause or to prove beyond a reasonable doubt a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 242
and would not be likely to survive a defense motion for acquittal at trial pursuant to Federal Rule
of Criminal Procedure 29(a). This is true for all six to eight shots that struck Brown. Witness
accounts suggesting that Brown was standing still with his hands raised in an unambiguous
signal of surrender when Wilson shot Brown are inconsistent with the physical evidence, are
otherwise not credible because of internal inconsistencies, or are not credible because of
inconsistencies with other credible evidence. In contrast, Wilsons account of Browns actions,
if true, would establish that the shootings were not objectively unreasonable under the relevant
Constitutional standards governing an officers use of deadly force. Multiple credible witnesses
corroborate virtually every material aspect of Wilsons account and are consistent with the
physical evidence. Even if the evidence established that Wilsons actions were unreasonable, the
government would also have to prove that Wilson acted willfully, i.e. that he acted with a
specific intent to violate the law. As discussed above, Wilsons stated intent for shooting Brown
was in response to a perceived deadly threat. The only possible basis for prosecuting Wilson
under Section 242 would therefore be if the government could prove that his account is not true
i.e., that Brown never punched and grabbed Wilson at the SUV, never struggled with Wilson
over the gun, and thereafter clearly surrendered in a way that no reasonable officer could have
failed to perceive. Not only do eyewitnesses and physical evidence corroborate Wilsons
account, but there is no credible evidence to disprove Wilsons perception that Brown posed a
threat to Wilson as Brown advanced toward him. Accordingly, seeking his indictment is not
permitted by Department of Justice policy or the governing law.
For all of the reasons stated, Wilsons conduct in shooting Brown as he advanced on
Wilson, and until he fell to the ground, was not objectively unreasonable and thus not a violation
of 18 U.S.C. § 242.
Because Wilson did not act with the requisite criminal intent, it cannot be proven beyond
reasonable doubt to a jury that he violated 18 U.S.C.§ 242 when he fired his weapon at Brown.
For the reasons set forth above, this matter lacks prosecutive merit and should be closed.
hill2016
(1,772 posts)the evidence is too weak to even constitute probable cause for an indictment LET ALONE surviving a motion to dismiss by the defense LET ALONE actually proving beyond reasonable doubt to a jury.
7962
(11,841 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)hill2016
(1,772 posts)where they say the shooting was reasonable under the circumstances and the witnesses who claimed his hands were up were not credible.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)hill2016
(1,772 posts)to snatch his gun and was charging him.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Your dramatic lack of accuracy is, if nothing else, rather consistent.
hill2016
(1,772 posts)actually factually accurate.
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Granted they were on an interstate, but drivers still have a responsibility to not hit pedestrians. The damage to the car is not that big of a deal. There is something called insurance. The other person punching someone, that is assault.
Judi Lynn
(160,584 posts)TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)And most people have something called a deductible.
I have a nice scratch on my car that was never fixed because it wasn't worth making a claim (with the potential rise in rates) and paying the deductible.
I would be very upset to read that this young woman went to prison over this, especially if she doesn't have a criminal record (which I assume she doesn't). But she needs to take responsibility for what she did.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)We were on a local highway and I was stopped at a light. Pulled over into the parking lot to get his information and he took off. Fortunately someone in another vehicle saw the whole thing happen and went after him and got his plate number and came back and gave it to me. The person was a saint because my deductible went down from $500 to $300, plus they caught the guy. Turns out it wasn't even his car (I think it belonged to a family member, but I can't remember). My insurance company went after him for the rest of the cost. It was still bad, but
ShrimpPoboy
(301 posts)and some community service is the worst she gets. But definitely restitution.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)She caused the damage she can pay for it.
7962
(11,841 posts)The woman moves slowly until the people blocking her are out of the way. I can easily see where a woman could feel threatened by a crowd surrounding her car. I would've done the same thing. Dont try to block an active highway
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)Camel_Camel
(10 posts)Run over by a car you say...
Amazing stuff...
7962
(11,841 posts)Although this clip starts after the kicking, you can see the dented door as the driver pulls away.
they could have charged the rest with false imprisonment
leveymg
(36,418 posts)unless the crowd was attacking the vehicle before it moved forward - in which case, I would try to back up.
christx30
(6,241 posts)have the right and a reason to obstruct traffic. Those protestors do not. If my car was stopped by a bunch of angry people that were attacking it, id be terrified and want to get the hell out of there.
I hope the judge throws the book at these people, and protestors use other tactics to get their point across.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)It doesn't matter who's in the roadway or why they're there. You can't endanger them by driving through a crowd that way, unless, as I said, one has reason to fear for one's own life or limb, and there is no alternative to driving forward into a line of people.
christx30
(6,241 posts)The only people being charged are the protestors.
One faces 3 years in prison for it. And I hope she gets every second of that time.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)a minority & those were just some good old wholesome Americans standing on that road exercising their constitutional rights.
People can get run over protesting on a highway, because the driver felt inconvenienced? The whole point of the protest is to inconvenience people that will otherwise ignore a dire situation because it doesn't effect them.
christx30
(6,241 posts)But they need to be smarter about walking onto a highway where cars are going 60+ MPH, and shouldn't be surprised if people in cars are afraid of angry people with signs screaming at them and wanting to leave the area.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Clutch your purse & lock the door honey, there's an angry mob out front.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Watch the video, there is an angry mob surrounding her car. No wonder she wasn't charged.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)password that's amazing. So what brings you out tonight, was it the keywords angry mob?
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)I'm here every night. Since 2008. Don't post much as you can tell.
The charges towards the protestor are stupid, about as stupid as protesting on a freeway.
A crowd of angry people start surrounding a car screaming and panic will probably kick in. No need to call the driver racist or scared of black people but whatever continue on.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Who said anything about demanding ransom?
She wasn't let go for ransom. She was let go for a punch in the head.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Apparently no one had your presence of mind.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)In the scenario shown in the video in Post #13, I'd have been in fear for my life, without a doubt.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)AFAIK, this was the only vehicle damaged. Driver should have been charged, too.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)If I were driving in this situation and the protesters stayed in a line, just blocking the road, I'd just sit there, too. I'd be pissed off, I'm sure...but I'd just sit there. I wouldn't try to drive past them unless they started surrounding my car. Then I'm getting the hell out of there, no hesitation, no apologies.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)How long are you going to sit there?
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)And having to call the daycare and let them know I'll be late because some people with a very real beef have no fucking clue how to advance their cause ain't gonna improve my mood. But if I don't feel threatened, I'm not going to risk escalating things.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)wish I lived in that county, I always go to jury duty.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Guilty. Next case. I wish I was on the jury.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Dont block an active highway.
There are other clips of folks who werent so easy on the gas pedal. Which is probably the way I wouldve handled it. Move or BE moved.
Rex
(65,616 posts)doesn't mean anything to you? Glad you are not a judge or cop, I would cringe if you were.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Show me THAT law. "Pedestrians have the right of way on any road at any time during any action".
Ha
I wouldve liked to have seen the whole 1st row slowly move forward. They would have all moved out of the way. Unless they were totally stupid, which I doubt. Then everyone would have gotten home on time
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)You are spouting off in ignorance pretending its knowledge. You should do a little research before making bullshit claims.
Here is the actual Missouri law on the matter:
300.390. When Pedestrian Shall Yield
(1) Every pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or
within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon
the roadway. (2) Any pedestrian crossing a roadway at a point where a pedestrian tunnel or overhead
pedestrian crossing has been provided shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the
roadway. (3) The foregoing rules in this section have no application under the conditions stated
in section 300.395 when pedestrians are prohibited from crossing at certain designated places
I even put it in italics so maybe you can grasp it. No, the pedestrians didn't legally have right of way.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I swear some of the outlandish things posters will post, just to yank a few chains. To be correct, they are saying a person has the right to run over people with their car.
Normally that kind of obvious bullshit would get a person laughed off a forum, not this one. Concern trolling is all the rage on DU doncha know?
christx30
(6,241 posts)to run someone over.
We're saying that no one has the right to stand in the road and impede traffic just to make a political point by inconviencing people. It's a bad idea politcally (you're going to piss off people that might support you, but you're making them late for things), and it's a bad idea for safety (someone could crash into the vehicle they aren't expecting to be stopped).
And if they make me late for work, I'm going to call the cops and try to have you ticketed or jailed. I don't factor in "A bunch of idiots decided to stand in the road" as part of my commute.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Understands that nobody was "run over"
You also can't illegally go on a controlled access highway, stand in traffic and prevent people for going about their travels.
In fact, because the motorists were intentionally restrained from leaving one could argue that what the protesters did actually could be considered 3rd degree kidnapping under MO law based on what I looked up.
7962
(11,841 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)I am glad you are not a judge or a cop and feel pity for any jury you sit on.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)is obviously oblivious to pedestrian laws. WTG, lets just run protesters over now that makes total sense.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)this thread would be about how they were fearing for their lives so they opened fire & it was just self defense.
d_r
(6,907 posts)they think they are so important and have to get somewhere so bad that they drive through where they could hurt or kill somebody instead of waiting for 20 minutes out of memory of a dead young man. People suck.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Too bad these people didnt learn that lesson.
d_r
(6,907 posts)that have been taught not to drive through people in the road, too bad this person didn't learn that lesson. They could have killed somebody.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Driver went very slow until the odors were out of the path, then sped up to escape.
And in MO a pedestrian not in a cross walk must yield to traffic, so the motorist was legal.
d_r
(6,907 posts)it looks to me like they are driving through a crowd of protesters that were blocking the road.
I really don't know why anyone would do that instead of just waiting 20 minutes.
I wouldn't be surprised about right wingers complaining about it, but it seems crazy to me to drive through a line of people protesting.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)And a bunch of people who you don't know, whose intentions you don't know, illegally attempt to block you in you are smart to not just sit back.
You of the hindsight of knowing who it was and the assumption they were peaceful. That motorist was caught up in it on a whim- and based on the kicking and punching the protestors were less than peaceful.
Rex
(65,616 posts)It is illegal to hit someone with your car. Reversing the car solves the problem. Not even close to nice try.
Ace Rothstein
(3,167 posts)Nobody was going in any direction with the protesters blocking traffic.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Really? That's your solution?
That idea aside from being downright idiotic is unsafe, illegal, and with traffic backe up behind you impossible.
christx30
(6,241 posts)20 minutes, you'd be pissed and you'd try to get past them. No one has the right to hold you up and prevent you from going about your day for a political protest, no matter the cause they support.
If the protestors didn't want to get pushed out of the way of the SUV, they should have stayed on the sidewalk.
The protestors were 100% in the wrong here.
d_r
(6,907 posts)I wouldn't drive through people. I'm sorry, there's no way I would do that. I don't care if it was the kkk. It is amazing to me that people think that is OK.
christx30
(6,241 posts)Failing that, I'd call the police and have the people impeding traffic arrested and fined.
You have the right to speak. You don't have the right to impede other people from living their lives. Stay on the side walk and let people go about their day.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)The car obviously inched foward slowly until the protesters got out of the way, and only then sped up- as most people would if they are suddenly surrounded by a mob on the street.
FWIW, look up MO statute 300.390- (1) Every pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right of way to vehicles upon the roadway.
I'm some states blocking a persons ability to leave a place in their vehicle is chargeable as kidnapping in some circumstances- holding motorists up could constitute that. I've seen it done where a spouse prevented someone from leaving in a car where that was the only reasonable option to exit the area.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Other civilized countries think it's batshit insane. But then again other civilized countries also sympathize with the Black Lives Matter movement as well.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Not really.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)First, start with the legality of pedestrians on a controlled access highway.
Next, tell us who has right of way when a pedestrian and motorist meet and the pedestrian is not in a crosswalk, and who must yield in that circumstance.
Next, what crimes could be in play when a group of people restrain one or more people and prevent than from lawfully traveling or leaving the scene with the legally available means they have?
Finally, if a mob of people illegally on e highway is restraining a persons ability to travel or leave the location, and that person responds by slowly inching the vehicle forward at a speed that will not harm anyone until the people restraining them part and let them pass- what law exactly was broken. Cite tha statute number please.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)In such a case, it's a lot more likely to be found, in court, to be justifiable use of force.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I would go with the second one, since it is illegal to hit someone with your car on purpose. THEY know that, but stirring up the shit is easier and it might yank a few chains.
Judi Lynn
(160,584 posts)DU does get infested with stowaways, unfortunately, posing as Democrats. They are unable to avoid giving themselves away every time.
dembotoz
(16,811 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,200 posts)They paid dearly. The driver was attacked with a knife but was not charged with any crime.
Rex
(65,616 posts)This country has a Police State of Denial problem.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The maximum penalty for an initial charge, and what people plead to or are eventually sentenced to, are two different things.
Would you be interested in a financial proposition on the subject of whether the accused in this instance actually is imprisoned when all is said and done?
Blandocyte
(1,231 posts)And please don't block public roads. The law-abiding among us will appreciate your restraint.
valerief
(53,235 posts)run over/arrested/shot at/pepper sprayed/beaten up? Oh, yeah, Land of the Free. We're number fuckin' one.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)An angry mob surrounding vehicles and pounding on/kicking them sure as hell isn't "peaceful." In that driver's place, I'd have been in fear for my life.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....and people think the driver has no right to be concerned about what might happen to them next?
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)surely the driver of the vehicle should be charged heavily?
onecaliberal
(32,875 posts)When bankers who ripped off trillions walk free.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If you are part of a group which, say, steals $10,000, then it's not like the amount gets divvied up between the members of the group.
In other words, if all of them did $5000 damage to the car, and her contribution was $500, that's not what matters.
I wonder where the driver was trying to go.
Judi Lynn
(160,584 posts)It's truly deeply sad.
People do reveal themselves when their upbringings overwhelm their good judgement.