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Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:08 PM Aug 2015

Brad Ashford says Iran nuclear deal 'not good enough right now'

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Joseph Morton

WASHINGTON — Rep. Brad Ashford, D-Neb., says a weeklong trip to Israel has only reinforced his significant concerns about President Barack Obama’s nuclear agreement with Iran.

“I’ve made up my mind that the deal’s not good enough right now,” Ashford said Wednesday.

The Omaha congressman stopped short of saying he will absolutely vote against the agreement when Congress returns from recess next month.

Ashford noted that between his duties in Washington and the visit to Israel, this week is the first time he has been back in Omaha since the details of the agreement were released.

FULL story at link.

Read more: http://www.omaha.com/news/metro/brad-ashford-says-iran-nuclear-deal-not-good-enough-right/article_c1b97b2f-e1a6-569c-a0d8-0f951f311ee7.html



Pro XL pipeline AND TPP! Why was I so happy he beat Lee Terry???
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Brad Ashford says Iran nuclear deal 'not good enough right now' (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2015 OP
If he were the 217th vote for Pelosi dsc Aug 2015 #1
Are we gonna lose this battle? mucifer Aug 2015 #2
Brad Ashford is a fucking idiot. blackspade Aug 2015 #3
Fuck Israel, they are big ass bullies. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #4
I would be a rich man 6chars Aug 2015 #5
Meh, I'm on my phone. I don't think we own a keyboard. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #8
But you are driven to rage. I can see that. 6chars Aug 2015 #11
Well then you really suck at reading people. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #15
your name fits. 6chars Aug 2015 #17
About time you got something right. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #22
Well then, how does "let's have a war against Iran" grab you? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Aug 2015 #10
I fell for George Bush? You know fuck-all about me. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #12
sounds like a threat 6chars Aug 2015 #13
1. I've never alerted on you. 2. I communicated no threat. 3. Your post was vey condescending. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #16
'Watch it, are we clear?" 6chars Aug 2015 #18
If you hadn't made an asinine statement about me falling for W's words, we wouldn't be discussing. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #20
But I don't have a pottymouth. 6chars Aug 2015 #23
But you do have a good night (he implored, without much sincerity). DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #25
You've been here barely 2 months & already have 3 hides, giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #19
I have discovered something about DU 6chars Aug 2015 #21
Oh yeah & what is that? giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #24
name another country that directly lobbies karynnj Aug 2015 #27
Hard to disagree with gg... Helen Borg Aug 2015 #29
I get that this is the vibe at DU 6chars Aug 2015 #30
Sun's out, shouldn't you be running home? giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #31
When will we stop letting Israel run our foreign policy? Chemisse Aug 2015 #6
must be some great country 6chars Aug 2015 #14
"I represent a red state, so I'm going to be a chickenshit coward geek tragedy Aug 2015 #7
This war mongering piece of shit needs onecaliberal Aug 2015 #26
I'm sure that during the weeklong trip to Israel... Helen Borg Aug 2015 #28
“I’ve made up my mind that the deal’s not good enough right now,” ladjf Aug 2015 #32

6chars

(3,967 posts)
5. I would be a rich man
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:30 PM
Aug 2015

if I had a dime for every time a DUer wrote "Fuck Israel" - it is definitely a popular view. This appears about 100 times more than Fuck all other countries combined. Go DU!!!

I just imagine the people who write this sitting at their keyboard, just fuming that someone is not going to vote in favor of the Iran deal, getting madder and madder, until they can no longer take it. Their sober, reasoned political discourse falls way to Fuck Israel. And finally they feel better.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
8. Meh, I'm on my phone. I don't think we own a keyboard.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:40 PM
Aug 2015

Maybe I'm too young (37), but I honestly don't get our love affair with Israel & yes I say fuck them BC they keep mooching from us & starting shit. Cut them off & let their asses deal with it on their own. Why are they our problem?

6chars

(3,967 posts)
11. But you are driven to rage. I can see that.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:54 PM
Aug 2015

Red in the face. "F-f-f-fuck Israel!!! Aaaaaah."

I mean you wrote this in response to an article about a Nebraska Senator who is not yet going to support a deal between the US and other countries and Iran, Israel not included anywhere. Israel not mentioned in the article. I get it, Israel as a country takes up a great deal of your brain space, you think about Israel a lot. They are not really that big a factor.

As for your other sentiments, I don't suppose they are your problem at all. But truthfully, an all out war in the middle east would be pretty ugly from a humanitarian perspective. Even if it was just nukes against Israel it would be. But it's just a game, right? Go team.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
15. Well then you really suck at reading people.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:15 PM
Aug 2015

Fuck is not a word of rage & if Israel wants to constantly start shit with their neighbors that shouldn't concern us in the least. If they want to act up we can throw some sanctions on them too, Israel has shown repeatedly that they can't play nice with others. Maybe if they had to put on some grown up pants for a while instead of running behind the US every time they started shit with their neighbors maybe they'd stop being such douchebags.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
9. Well then, how does "let's have a war against Iran" grab you?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:41 PM
Aug 2015

because that's what you're aiming for.

Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #9)

6chars

(3,967 posts)
13. sounds like a threat
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:13 PM
Aug 2015

i know how alert trolling works around here, and I know who gets away with it and who gets screwed. My non-insulting post is deleted. go ahead and say Fuck Israel to your heart's content. Gotta love DU.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
16. 1. I've never alerted on you. 2. I communicated no threat. 3. Your post was vey condescending.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:15 PM
Aug 2015

And I didn't appreiate it at all. The self-delete was thoughtful. The attempted mitigation and claims of innocence and accusations of leveling threats: definitely not appreciated.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
20. If you hadn't made an asinine statement about me falling for W's words, we wouldn't be discussing.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:22 PM
Aug 2015

But every last motherfucking time someone is foolish enough to try to smear me with George W Bush, they're going to hear about it. I apologize for NOTHING.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
19. You've been here barely 2 months & already have 3 hides,
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:18 PM
Aug 2015

I would say you definitely know all about trolling.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
21. I have discovered something about DU
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:23 PM
Aug 2015

that I do not believe is true about Democats over all, and it has to do with how DUers such as yourself feel about Israel and its supporters.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
24. Oh yeah & what is that?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:26 PM
Aug 2015

I have found that? I see you couldn't explain up thread why we have an obligation to support Israel?

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
27. name another country that directly lobbies
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 02:56 AM
Aug 2015

Our Congress against our Democratic President. I am Jewish and appalled.

Not to mention, I am fed up with people who question Obama arguing his case that this really is the only alternative to war. The latest is Bloomberg who took him to task for his language. Yet, NOT ONE of these people took Netanyahu to task for his over the top rhetoric. Not to mention it is Netanyahu lobbing our legislators, not Obama lobbing the Knesset.

Not to mention, in the official Jewish community, there has long been many saying we are strongest speaking with one voice ---- but that has for at least 2 decades been the Likud voice no matter who is in power. By the way, a young Netanyahu lobbied the US against the official Israeli position when Likud was out of power.

In addition, I ad sick of articles that essentially blame Obama for the bad relationship. Apparently, attacks on Obama and Kerry - often based in lies - from people in Netsnyahu's disgusting RW fringe of his coalition are just dandy, but anyone - even anonymous people on DU are wrong to question Schumer or Netanyahu.

Outside DU, it is ridiculous that many previously neutral Jewish organizations are lobbying for Likud on this. Then, they have the audacity to be both condescending and angry when I refuse to sign up to go to their functions. My position was not confrontational - just if they opt to take a political position I disagree with to my core, I have the right to politely take a political position to reject their functions. When their response is that it is wrong to let this tear up the community -- my response is don't lobby on issues where half the community disagrees. They are responsible for the controversy.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
30. I get that this is the vibe at DU
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:02 AM
Aug 2015

I am still trying to understand the psyche, but I think I am getting there.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
6. When will we stop letting Israel run our foreign policy?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:36 PM
Aug 2015

A trip to Israel (who paid for this, btw?) and suddenly he agrees with Israel. What a surprise.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
14. must be some great country
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:14 PM
Aug 2015

if a 3 day trip there can change a US Senator's vote. Now let's see how he votes on Disneyworld.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. "I represent a red state, so I'm going to be a chickenshit coward
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:40 PM
Aug 2015

and cite some bullshit nonsense in order to align myself with the Republicans."

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
32. “I’ve made up my mind that the deal’s not good enough right now,”
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:49 PM
Aug 2015

That's non-sense. Give some plausible reasons or be quiet.

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