White House Brushes Off Chuck Schumer's Iran Deal Rejection
Source: ABC News
Aug 7, 2015, 2:22 PM ET
By BENJAMIN SIEGEL AND JORDYN PHELPS
The Obama administration is confident it can get enough Democrats on Capitol Hill to support the Iran deal, despite prominent rejections of the deal from Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-New York, and other members, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said today.
I would describe this as an announcement that was not particularly surprising to anyone here at the White House, even if it was disappointing, Earnest said. But it doesnt change our confidence that well be able to mobilize a substantial majority of Democrats both in the House and in the Senate in support of the deal and if necessary.
Schumer, a senior Democrat next-in-line to replace Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, was a top White House target in the Iran deal lobbying campaign. His support would've lent legitimacy to the deal in the pro-Israel community.
Instead, he became the the first Democratic senator -- and fifth New York City-area Democratic lawmaker -- to oppose it Thursday night, citing concerns that the deal would not do enough to curb Iran's nuclear ambitions and sponsorship of terror.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-brushes-off-chuck-schumers-iran-deal/story?id=32950436
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)We Democrats should brush off Schumer's designs on becoming the Democratic leader.
George II
(67,782 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)They vote what they believe and keep their convictions?
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)If you cannot do that, you resign your leadership position, then vote what you believe.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I didn't look at it that way but you are right. If he gave up the leader position then he can vote the way he wants. That is really excellent. Thank you so much for replying to me because you really made a difference in how I was looking at it.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)I am strongly in favor of the Iran nuclear deal. But at least Schumer is up-front about his reasons.
still_one
(92,372 posts)verifiable. He is disingenuous at best. Note the other senator from NY is for the deal
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)where he was explicit about his allegiance to the state of Israel and his aversion to the nuclear deal.
I heard it on NPR yesterday. I didn't catch all of the details about the context of the remarks (where?, when?, etc.)
Like I said, I'm strongly in favor of the deal and opposing it, like Schumer has, is a line in the sand for me. Fuck him. I'm just saying, from what I heard yesterday, Schumer was at least explicit about his allegiance to Israel in the remarks I heard him make -- which is worth something in my book.
still_one
(92,372 posts)"allegiance" was to Israel. I could understand him saying he strongly supports Israel, but allegiance is an entirely different connotation. To be honest I am somewhat skeptical of NPR also. Ever since NPR was trying to infer that Bernie Sanders had dual citizenship, and keep pushing the point despite Bernie's denials. The next day NPR apologized, but that really put a bad taste in my month about that.
Here is the official release on Schumer's decision, and why I said he was just echoing the republican talking points:
http://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/my-position-on-the-iran-deal
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)The audio they played was from Schumer's address to an important AIPAC conference last year. If the word "allgience" is problematic (although I think it's fitting enough) then let's just say that Schumer is a consistently outspoken and explicit supporter of aligning American foreign policy with the policies of the state of Israel.
still_one
(92,372 posts)He also takes donations from Wall Street PACs and other special interest groups
Don't get me wrong, I detest Schumer not only for going against the Iran deal, but dissing the ACA and other things where he is influenced by special interest groups
I don't want him as majority / minority leader. He cannot be trusted as he has demonstrated. Schumer is for Schumer, and to hell with the people
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)It's estimated they'll spend $20 million to $40 million on lobbying over the Iran nuclear deal alone.
I don't want Schumer either, but considering how Liberman was rewarded, I'd guess that Schumer is golden.
still_one
(92,372 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)not that you're the only one. this kind of escalation can lead to bad places, although it does help the people doing it to feel better.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)then let's just say that Schumer is a consistently outspoken and explicit supporter of aligning American foreign policy with the policies of the state of Israel.
6chars
(3,967 posts)more precise and without (unintended) negative implications
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:30 AM - Edit history (1)
Allegiance is concise and I believe a fitting and proper choice for describing the relationship.
The other is more precise but longer.
It's a trade off we all must occasionally make between precision and brevity.
You're right (thank you) the statement wasn't intended to smear Schumer.
People have different outlooks and opinions on Israel. That's life.
(edit: please don't think I'm preaching at you. I'm just talking. And I'm argumentative by nature. Too much so, most people say.)
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)ArizonaLib
(1,242 posts)Sounds like Wall Street is voting against it. He is announcing this for a reason - is it because he needs establishment money for a future presidential run? Is he planning to succeed Hillary Clinton for blue dog leader after her primary or her possible presidency? I hope Bernie wins the white house.
Backwoodsrider
(764 posts)To his credit he waited until they got the votes to pass this before he tipped his hat at his string pullers. Wonder if this was discussed with the Whitehouse before hand? Schumer could never gotten up to where he is at with out the support of the state of Israel. This Iran plan is also a reshuffling of the control of oil in the ME that's why Bush and the Saudis are so pissed. The deals Baker made 30 years ago are being replaced. Israel is a smart country and once they see where the wind is blowing and get their ducks in a row I think they will be able to work with the Iran deal, just my 2 cents. And Schumer is not near as apathetic as Reid
6chars
(3,967 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)at him.
24601
(3,962 posts)agreement goes forward unless new legislation blocks it.
Expecting that blocking initially passes both houses, and then it's vetoed, an override would require 67 Senators and 290 Representatives.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)maybe including soft leaners who aren't committed, but nothing solid yet.
They're still at least 7 votes shy in the Senate.
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red dog 1
(27,845 posts)If so, what does he have to do with this OP about Schumer?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)red dog 1
(27,845 posts)Schumer is a DINO.
I expect at least one or two other Senate Dems will oppose the Iran deal as well.
President Obama has his work cut out for him to get Congressional approval of this deal.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)kabuki theater
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I guarantee they are royally pissed. I suspect Schumer will regret this decision. The Obama wing of Dem party is still very powerful and if they wanted to, they could take this guy down.. and I suspect they do.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)He should NEVER become Democratic leader in the Senate or chair any committee.
november3rd
(1,113 posts)We're better off without an Agreement, Chuck?
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)MrTriumph
(1,720 posts)Is Iran's sponsorship of terrorism a part of the agreement?
Notice the last 3 words in ABC's report:
"Instead, he became the the first Democratic senator -- and fifth New York City-area Democratic lawmaker -- to oppose it Thursday night, citing concerns that the deal would not do enough to curb Iran's nuclear ambitions and sponsorship of terror".