ISIS executes 19 women in Mosul 'for refusing to take part in sexual jihad'

[jpak]

Source: Times of India

The ISIS militant group has executed 19 women in its Iraqi stronghold of Mosul for refusing to have sex with fighters, a Kurdish official has claimed.

Said Mimousini, a spokesperson for the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), said that ISIS's treatment of women and dealings with money were proving to be increasingly divisive within the organisation's own ranks.

The official said that the executions, which could not be independently verified, took place during the weekend of the 1 and 2 August.

"ISIS (has) executed 19 women in the city of Mosul during the past two days," he told Iraqi News on Monday. "The penalty decision came on the background of the refusal to participate in the practice of sexual jihad."

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Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/ISIS-executes-19-women-in-Mosul-for-refusing-to-take-part-in-sexual-jihad/articleshow/48391996.cms

[gordianot]

1. Just a little more extreme than American Republicans.

Methods are a little more direct with Isis but the outcomes of Republican policies are very similar.

[candelista]

3. Sorry, I don't get the comparison.

I don't like Republicans and I don't like ISIS, but I don't see how they are similar.

[gordianot]

7. Both engage in sexual politics.

Neglect on women's health issues that results in death is no less death.

[Bill USA]

32. not as far-fetched as it might seem. GOPers have done everything they could to keep Obama from

succeeding with rebuilding our economy from their Trickle Down Disaster (TTD). This directly hurt millions of Americans, but that was okay as far as the GOP was concerned. It would help them regain WH. It didn't work, but not for trying. They blocked every jobs bill proposed by Obama except the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which I believe 3 Republicans voted for. They threatened a default on the U.S. debt, and forced the closure of the government and threatened a second closure. All this scared employers who, as a result, were very wary of hiring back full time permanent workers. They used more overtime and part-timers. Since the TTD, companies have been holding large hoards of cash, rather than hire back workers and commit to their business objectives. They weren't confident that the Republicans wouldn't kill the recovery so they held onto profits and held off hiring back full time people. THis is why so many people say they haven't experienced the recovery.

[candelista]

34. Are they forcing women into sex slavery with RW insurgents?

Please let me know when this happens. The Republicans are bad enough. We don't need these hysterical over-the-top comparisons.

[strategery blunder]

53. Two words: the Duggars

The Quiverfull movement isn't executing women (yet), but I do see a comparison to "sexual jihad" there

And Mike Huckabee for one does have some ties to that...

[Bill USA]

62. they do believe it's okay for the Government to obtrude itself into decisions that should be made by

a woman in consultation with her doctor. In this 21st Century Society, that seems fairly Midieval and smacks of a theocratic state.

I think if someone makes a comparitive statement saying some group is 'like' another, it does not mean that he is saying the one group is identical to the other. This does not mean, TP-GOPers must all grow beards and cut off heretics heads for the comparitive statement to be meaningful. WE are all, I believe, beyond the age of 3 or 4 years and therefore should be beyond a simple, literal interpretation of words spoken.


When you hear somebody say: "Man that guy is a bastard."

You wouldn't say (if knowledgeable of the facts pertaining), "Well, I happen to know his mother was married when she gave birth to him. I don't know why you would say such a thing!"

[jonno99]

6. You'll get some high-fives here at DU, but to those outside this forum

you'll be ignored as an extremist.

Learn to be a little more nuanced.

My two cents...

[uhnope]

11. re-fucking-diculous

wow you started the discussion at a low point of no return.

Really, some people can't discuss any problem in the world without saying that somehow the USA is as bad or worse or almost as bad.

Still this one is so extreme I don't know how anyone can say it at all

[leftynyc]

17. Hyperbolic bullshit

and more moral relativism - just the kind of thing that has made DU a joke on the issue of isis and Islam. If it were Christians doing this, you wouldn't be using a different religion to get them off the hook. Suck it up, this is what Islamic fundamentalism looks like and the gop is nothing like it.

[gordianot]

20. Next time someone bombs the Olympics, shoots an abortion Doctor, pins planned parenthood.

legitimizes rape, promotes State Religion always (Christian fundamentalist) guess I will have to moderate my view. Oh yes did you hear Planned Parenthood is selling fetal body parts when they get defunded that will show them? Surely Republican Christian fundamentalist are nothing like Islamic terrorist nor does the GOP single out women, minorities, immigrants and feed the fear they plant in their supporters.

[leftynyc]

24. Spare me your hysteria

THIS story is about women getting EXECUTED for not being willing to be sex slaves. Not one of your examples (while all moronic) even come close to that bullshit. Just fucking stop with the moral relativism already - why can't you just admit isis is vermin? What's the fucking problem with just admitting that without trying to give them a pass (which is EXACTLY what you're doing by deflecting onto other topics)? It's sickening.

[gordianot]

29. I give ISIS no pass nor do I give the domestic variety a pass.

Vermin comes in many varieties and I am deflecting nothing, terrorist are terrorist.

[leftynyc]

36. Yes you are

The story was clearly about Isis and yet you felt compelled to change the subject to Christians. Do you bring up Islamic violence when the story involves Christians? I'm going to go ahead and say no because you aren't any different than many others here. You seem compelled to prove Bill Maher right over and over and over.

[gordianot]

43. Well I definitely part ways on that.

There is not a shred of difference other than tactics between Islamic terrorist fringes and the Christian terrorist fringes. Since beheadings are frowned on locally vile accusations by right wing have to suffice with an occasional lone wolf attack from time to time. If not actual support the Republican Conservative media spin certainly does not acknowledge the environment they create that feeds domestic hate. As to the accuracy of this story from an Indian source will either be verified or not. As to ISIS there are plenty of well documented atrocities to react. One could enlist wait and see which new war comes along, or if they had the skills head out a a personal mission. Bottom line ISIS would not exist if it were not for Republican neocons. Domestic terrorism and hate gets its biggest boost from Republican right wing media. Investigate it may not be too late to get in the grinder there is a stage full of Republican contenders willing to help out.

[leftynyc]

45. You're blaming republicans

For Islamic fundamentalists? Or just specifically for this particular group of terrorists. because we all know the U.S. Is responsible for all the ills in the world and if it weren't for us Shia and Sunni would be getting along swimmingly.

[gordianot]

46. You are correct Republicans are to blame.

They had some Democratic help as far as I count they said they were sorry. As I remember the last decade Republicans would have been hard pressed to verbalize the difference between Shia and Sunni including the idiot who read the pet goat stories. All I can say is wow from ISIS to Shia. By the way Cousin Jeb wants big brothers old job. He seems to also have a low opinion of women's health issues and rights.

I am really enjoying this thank you so much.

[leftynyc]

49. Are you drunk? N/t

[gordianot]

56. No but you utterly amaze me.

[leftynyc]

58. Because I'm capable

Of actually talking about the OP without pathetically trying to deflect the story to something else. I guess to those who can't bring themselves to discuss Islamic terrorism would find that amazing.

[gordianot]

59. If nothing else provide proof that terrorism works.

Not just any old garden variety but Islamic and the threat is there is nothing you can do about it other than be horrified. When you kill those who commit such acts you perpetuate the recruitment of replacements. My point is that those who sell fear to buy your gun, bomb the enemy, hate someone for religious beliefs, target people by gender are not that different from those who commit displays of mass killing. Bottom line it is good for someone's business. Although both parties in America engage in such fear mongering one seems bound and determined to corner the market. It is a gruesome supply and demand.

[Kermitt Gribble]

19. Alert results

On Fri Aug 7, 2015, 01:20 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Just a little more extreme than American Republicans.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1169672

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

I know we hate Rethugs, but let's not sink to the lowest of their low level. What ISIS has done is trivialized by this comparison.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Aug 7, 2015, 01:36 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Have you seen republican comments on rape? I agree with the alerted poster.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is a legitimate comparison.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I agree with this post, as they explained it in their reply. Fundamentalism against women while maybe different in directness is similar.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While the comparison is harsh, Obama has compared ISIS to Christian crusades, and Republicans have compared Obama to ISIS.

The person who sent the alert wrote: I know we hate Rethugs, but let's not sink to the lowest of their low level. What ISIS has done is trivialized by this comparison.

We sink to "rethugs" level every time we call dehumanize people as "rethugs".

Change starts with the person in the mirror.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[cosmicone]

39. Again, Islam gets a pass on DU for the most barbaric act of them all

SICK of false equivalence instead of blaming the perpetrators in the absolute.

[6chars]

61. what's wrong with being sensitive to other cultures?

don't worry, DU hides plenty of comments due to their potential to offend

[candelista]

54. The vote was unanimous to "LEAVE IT ALONE."

I support free speech, but look at some of the comments of the jurors. Three of them agree with the verbiage of the poster. The only other juror to comment (#6) is logically incomprehensible.

Juror #1:

I agree with this post, as they explained it in their reply. Fundamentalism against women while maybe different in directness is similar.

Juror #3
Explanation: It is a legitimate comparison.

Juror #4:
Explanation: I agree with this post, as they explained it in their reply. Fundamentalism against women while maybe different in directness is similar.

Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While the comparison is harsh, Obama has compared ISIS to Christian crusades, and Republicans have compared Obama to ISIS.

Apparently nothing anyone says about Republicans is ever "over the top." Whatever civility used to belong to liberalism has suffered badly in this case.

[roguevalley]

21. disgusting comment, gordianot. There's an authenticated list out there by the UN that

states the price of 'sex slaves' which are any women and children held by ISIS. ages 1-9 go for $165. It gets cheaper the older the baby. There is nothing funny about this kind of thing ever.

[gordianot]

26. You hear no support for ISIS from me.

You also hear no support for Republicans. Just curious how you came up with that?

[cosmicone]

40. Creating false equivalence is the same as giving a pass

"everybody does it, move along"

[gordianot]

44. Guess not over the top when they say the same...

About Obama and the Democratic Party. Some do protest too much.

[Oneironaut]

42. That's ridiculous. They're not even close.

The Republicans have backwards ideas, but comparing them to ISIS is beyond over the top.

[gordianot]

47. Those tops seem to get higher daily.

Last nights Republican debates raised them some? I would have loved to have heard a conversation who is the greatest threat Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Isis, or maybe domestic right wing terrorist?

With a follow up who jerks your chain and what are you going to do about it?

As to American body counts Domestic Right wing terrorist beat ISIS.

[leftynyc]

50. Oh - I get it now.

We should only care and comment when American lives are involved. Fuck those women executed for not wanting to be sex slaves. YOU want me to wet my panties over right wingers wanting to outlaw abortion. I've got news for you - Islamic fanatics have killed way more New Yorkers than right wingers have.

[gordianot]

55. I never even once implied that one life is of more value than another.

Something can be done here for those who promote terror here. Now the terrible horrors perpetrated in what remains of Iraq and Syria an area which AMERICAN REPUBLICANS broke seems to be something the neighborhood does not want to do anything about. So let us send some more American boots invest American lives, rearm Iraqi's who then surrender those weapons and perpetuate mistakes.


Want to do something about the murder of innocents join the military you may get your chance. You have military skills volunteer many have, or become a mercenary there is a demand.

As to putting American lives first, I AM GUILTY as a sovereign nation we are in our rights doing something about that. I also have news for you the Islamic fanatics who killed the New Yorkers were mostly Saudi's and the 28 pages of the report detailing that has never been released. Choose your conflict wisely there is no lack of possibilities all of them catastrophic.

[Herman4747]

51. This is NOT anything to joke about, okay?

[Android3.14]

52. Hyperbolic fail

Profoundly unhelpful.

[Comrade Grumpy]

2. Charming folks, ISIS. We ought to unleash the Iranians on them.

[SoapBox]

4. Sick, sick, sick PERVERTS!

OMG...sick.

[freshwest]

5. K&R, but it'll sink like a stone. n/t

[Shadowflash]

8. ah, more from the 'religion of peace'.

[blackspade]

9. Is ISIS recruiting the GOP now?

"sexual jihad" should be right up their alley.

This kind of shit is sick.

[McCamy Taylor]

10. There's another term for this--"comfort women". See WWII.

[bananas]

41. The Comfort Women and Japan's War on Truth - now led by neocon Shinzo Abe

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/opinion/comfort-women-and-japans-war-on-truth.html

The Comfort Women and Japan’s War on Truth
By MINDY KOTLER
NOV. 14, 2014

<snip>

We know of Lieutenant Nakasone’s role in setting up a comfort station thanks to his 1978 memoir, “Commander of 3,000 Men at Age 23.” At that time, such accounts were relatively commonplace and uncontroversial — and no obstacle to a political career. From 1982 to 1987, Mr. Nakasone was the prime minister of Japan.

<snip>

The government of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is engaged in an all-out effort to portray the historical record as a tissue of lies designed to discredit the nation. Mr. Abe’s administration denies that imperial Japan ran a system of human trafficking and coerced prostitution, implying that comfort women were simply camp-following prostitutes.

The latest move came at the end of October when, with no intended irony, the ruling Liberal Democratic Party appointed Mr. Nakasone’s own son, former Foreign Minister Hirofumi Nakasone, to chair a commission established to “consider concrete measures to restore Japan’s honor with regard to the comfort women issue.”

The official narrative in Japan is fast becoming detached from reality, as it seeks to cast the Japanese people — rather than the comfort women of the Asia-Pacific theater — as the victims of this story. The Abe administration sees this historical revision as integral to restoring Japan’s imperial wartime honor and modern-day national pride. But the broader effect of the campaign has been to cause Japan to back away from international efforts against human rights abuses and to weaken its desire to be seen as a responsible partner in prosecuting possible war crimes.

<snip>

The grave truth about the Abe administration’s denialist obsession is that it has led Japan not only to question Ms. Coomaraswamy’s report, but also to challenge the United Nations’ reporting on more recent and unrelated war crimes, and to dismiss the testimony of their victims. In March, Japan became the only Group of 7 country to withhold support from a United Nations investigation into possible war crimes in Sri Lanka, when it abstained from voting to authorize the inquiry. (Canada is not a member of the Human Rights Council but issued a statement backing the probe.) During an official visit, the parliamentary vice minister for foreign affairs, Seiji Kihara, told Sri Lanka’s president, “We are not ready to accept biased reports prepared by international bodies.”

<snip>

[uhnope]

12. These guys are why military drones were invented

[Sunlei]

13. where are those Saudi Jets when they're needed?

[Comrade Grumpy]

15. They're busy bombing Yemenis.

[Sunlei]

16. The Saudis can afford more Jets. They're supposed to be assisting Iraqs attack on IS strongholds.

[Comrade Grumpy]

22. Priorities.

[Warpy]

28. Fighting Shi'a rebels in Yemen.

ISIS is not only Sunni but part of the Wahabbist extremism the Saudis have exported for decades via their "free school" program throughout the Islamic world.

You want to know where ISIS came from, look to the south.

[n2doc]

14. How islamic of them

Basically they are just a glorified criminal gang. Paid for by the Saudis and weaponized by the USA via Iraq.

[Igel]

18. I wonder what's left out of the story.

Something in the back of my mind says that if the rest of the story were told, we'd be even more outraged. Both at IS and its quasi-defenders.

At the same time, there'd be fewer people outraged because it would reveal fault lines present in much of Islam, sharpened and highlighted in the case of the IS, but which make us profoundly uncomfortable. Slamming IS is one thing, but to possibly cast aspersions on much of Islam is beyond the pale.

[Backwoodsrider]

23. I dont like ISIS but

I have no doubt ISIS is a bad group especially if you are a Shiite woman but this claim has not been verified and the Kurds would like nothing more than we get more involved sand throw more money their way. Wish our media was a little less into mind control but that's their business.

[daleo]

25. I hold no candle for ISIS

But an unverified claim by a mortal enemy is not good evidence.

[Gregorian]

27. Those women- I cannot believe their strength.

ISIS is a bunch of weak fools. Those women are so much bigger than ISIS.

[rladdi]

30. Close to what the Republican sexual abuser would do.

[leftynyc]

38. Oh for Heavens sake

Just stop the hyperbole. Let's ask those women where they would rather live. Why do so many here feel the need to prove Bill Maher right every freeking day?

[Blue_Tires]

31. kick

[JudyM]

33. K&R. Fantasizing ... If only there were an army of "Amazons"...

This horror has to stop!

[maxsolomon]

35. Times of India

please read with Grains of Salt

[DonCoquixote]

37. You know

The fellow that said "You are over your women, but most assuredly, Allah has granted your women authority OVER YOU" would not approve this.

Then again, he is also the fellow that said "kindness is a mark of faith, and whoever has no kindness has no faith."

and lastly this:

"Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Muhammad

peace be upon him. Allahu Akhbar!

[Liberal_in_LA]

48. ugly. cruel sick bastards

[SunSeeker]

57. K & R for exposure. nt

[Marrah_G]

60. Yet these are the same assholes that would execute a woman for being raped

Fucking disgusting pieces of shit that the world would be better off without.