Chuck Schumer Planning To Break With Obama, Oppose Iran Deal

[geek tragedy]

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Source: Huffington Post

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, the chamber's third-ranking Democrat, plans to announce his opposition to the nuclear deal negotiated by the U.S., Iran, and five world powers tomorrow, three people familiar with his thinking tell The Huffington Post.

Schumer's move will come a day after New Hampshire Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen and Schumer's fellow New York senator, Kirstin Gillibrand, announced their support for the deal. That momentum is blunted by Schumer's pending announcement. Backers of the deal had hoped that if Schumer decided to oppose the deal, he would hold off until the last minute.

Schumer's support of a war footing over diplomacy puts him at odds with the Democratic caucus he intends to lead next term, though it is consistent with the position he has long taken.

As the soon-to-be leader of his party in the Senate, Schumer’s decision to directly fight President Barack Obama on the biggest foreign policy achievement of his presidency is a bold, but not surprising, move. Schumer has long been more hawkish on foreign policy than some of his fellow Democrats. In 2002, he voted for the Authorization for the Use of Military Force in Iraq. In 2006 he backed John Bolton's nomination to serve as George W. Bush's ambassador to the United Nations, reportedly telling a Senate Democratic caucus meeting that "a vote against Bolton was a vote against Israel." Bolton is an ardent foe of negotiation with Iran.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chuck-schumer-planning-to-break-with-obama-oppose-iran-deal_55c3f7e9e4b0d9b743dba71d

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Chuck Schumer is a disgrace to the state of New York. I will donate to any Democratic Senatorial candidate (general election) who pledges to not vote for this disloyal, treasonous scumbag for Majority Leader.

Fuck Chuck.

Join the Moveon donor strike to protest this.

http://front.moveon.org/schumer-iran/#.VcQuY0Yvu-V

[elzenmahn]

1. This is an issue worth primarying an elected official over...

...if this thing goes down to defeat, especially if it's a close vote, then we know where to point the finger.

This a$$hole needs to go.

[geek tragedy]

3. I will never vote for him again, no matter what.

I could say more, but I'd probably get my post hidden.

[choie]

25. I agree with you, geek tragedy...

I will vote for his Democratic opponent (if there is one.)

[geek tragedy]

26. I will vote for one of his opponents in the primary, and in the general nt

[turbinetree]

31. If I lived in New York...........................

I also would vote against him------------------there is no Plan B ---------------unless its war

[bjobotts]

34. I wonder how much of that $24mil the Israel pact is bribing senators with

has found its way into Shumer's hands. The entire world...all its nations except Israel support this Iran deal. Like Obama said...if you have a better alternative he's listening. But Shumer doesn't have one which proves it is just political bribery at the highest level. Shumer's true color bleeds through and he will never live it down.

[wingman56]

40. You are so right

We are turning out to be the laughing stock of the world. This republican party is hell bent on destroy everything that is in the best interest for this country. Shumer is a turn coat for the money that is coming his way, nice post bjobotts you are right on.

[MBS]

22. " " " " n/t

[billhicks76]

44. Amy Schumer...Anyone Home?

[raindaddy]

74. Yes exactly.. There needs to be repercussions for politicians who vote against the interests of ...

their own people. We've plowed trillions of dollars and sacrificed thousands of lives in the Middle East. Americans are sick of war.. A vote against a peaceful solution in Iran is reckless!

[Owl]

2. Schumer sucks.

[geek tragedy]

4. ya, rly!

See what i did there?

[Owl]

15. Yup

[GoneFishin]

5. Another Joe Loserman. Moles inside the Democratic Party.

[geek tragedy]

8. "Joe's with us on every issue but the war."

That's what Schumer is.

Fucking scumbag.

[6chars]

54. any other moles you know of?

[Arugula Latte]

6. Eff you, Chuck.

[eggplant]

7. AIPAC gets their money's worth. n/t

[procon]

9. When the Senator from Israel speaks, people listen.

What kind of a price tag did he put on selling out his own country?

[geek tragedy]

10. He's ALWAYS chosen Israel over the United States. EVERY time the US and Israel

disagree, he attacks the US government on behalf of Israel.

Seriously, this a matter of empirical fact. Saudi radar plane sales, restrictions on using US loan guarantees to build illegal settlements, and now war with Iran.

There was never any doubt that he would side with Israel and try to push for another middle east war, just like he did with Bush's Iraq war.

This fucking pig was willing to trust Bush but not Obama.

[PhilosopherKing]

11. It's time to primary this poser.

If he votes no, we need to primary him.

[geek tragedy]

12. He and his fellow crooked asshole Andrew Cuomo own the NY State Democratic party.

He's invincible here.

The only hope is that this costs him his leadership position.

[still_one]

13. Any Democrat who votes against the Iran deal is voting for war with Iran. It is really that simple.

If these same folks who are voting against the Iran deal also voted for the IWR, Democrat or not, they do NOT deserve our support.

They have learned nothing, and they should not be reelected.

If Schumer votes against this deal, there is no way he deserves to be majority leader, and if the DNC thinks I will contribute money to those who won't give peace a chance, and want war with Iran, they need their head examined.

[geek tragedy]

14. Schumer, Lowey, Israel all voted for Bush's war and against Obama's diplomacy.

That tells you everything you need to know about those scumbags.

And they get called liberals by the press.

[still_one]

17. I will wait until it is official tomorrow, but have no reason to doubt its authenticity. The

interesting thing to be noted is that every Democratic candidate except Jim Webb are for the Iran deal, while EVERY single republican candidate is against the deal.

I am not sure how Schumer can be prevented from becoming the majority leader. I hope someone challenges him on that

[geek tragedy]

19. Repudiating the scumbag should be an issue in senate primaries

in Maryland and other places.

The President needs to cut him down to size as well.

Schumer has never been a Democrat on foreign policy. Ideologically he's the same human being as Joe Lieberman.

[still_one]

23. I agree with what you are saying

[NBachers]

16. Schumer is going to replace Harry Reid

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/237194-schumer-is-heavy-favorite-to-replace-reid

[still_one]

18. Hopefully that will change, and someone will challenge him because of this garbage

[geek tragedy]

20. I sure as shit won't donate to Democrats who say they support him to replace Reid. nt

[craigmatic]

82. Durbin needs to be the new leader

[aintitfunny]

21. Primary Schumer (eom)

[geek tragedy]

24. he owns the Democratic party here. The only way to hurt him is by taking away

his position in the Senate leadership.

[WDIM]

27. war profiteers want war

Thats what they do.

[NYCButterfinger]

28. Disappointed. But you need to remember that Boro Park

and the Midwood, NYC neighborhoods are upset right now and Schumer was probably scared. Midwood and Boro Park is a heavily Jewish area. I was there Sunday. They are angry. I disagree with them.

[geek tragedy]

29. Schumer wasn't scared, he agrees with them, he's one of them. Gillibrand represents

the same people and she voted the right way.

[jonno99]

64. Yep. Bottom line: Chuckie knows who butters his bread...nt

[KeepItReal]

30. Fine, then don't let him become Leader of the Senate Dems

eom

[Bradical79]

32. Should be a deal breaker for Senate leadership

I don't know if it will be, but it should be. Trying to kill the Democratic president's diplomatic effort risking the lives of a LOT of people is not the kind of person who should be leading the party.

[geek tragedy]

33. A party leader should not be outsourcing his vote to lobbyists like AIPAC nt

[YOHABLO]

35. Well AIPAC owns Schumer big time. He can't go against them.

[geek tragedy]

36. He's a leader of the AIPAC crowd. They don't own him, he's a shareholder in them.

This is who he is, where his priorities are.

[NYCButterfinger]

37. I'm disappointed in Schumer, but we need to remember Boro Park, Midwood, Forest Hills, NYC

I know that area. I know it well. Schumer should represent America. I'm not anti-Israel. I've traveled around Boro Park, Midwood, Forest Hills, and there is deep anti-Obama sentiment in some of those areas. Some of these areas. It's the swing areas of NYC. Schumer will most likely be re-elected in 2016, NYS Republican bench is weak, but Hakeem Jeffries, etc. could challenge Schumer.

[geek tragedy]

38. Gillibrand felt free to put the interests of the country over pandering to the

nutjobs in Borough Park.

[bigdarryl]

48. True but he's Senator of The State of NY

If this deal.doesn't go through and a Republican wins in 2016 and starts war with Iran this will hunt him just like Hillary voting for war with Iraq is still a issue

[irisblue]

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[Lunabell]

85. I'm not anti Israel or Anti semetic

I am anti zionists

[delrem]

76. Canned response #9.

EVERY time a Dem betrays the Democratic party, that canned response is trotted out to justify why Republicans rule.

For some reason Republicans don't need a canned response of similar kind. Go figure that.

[Charles de Gaudless]

39. Don't the Dems still have to actually VOTE for this guy as leader?

Time for another choice!

[bigdarryl]

49. The problem is there aren't enough TRUE progressives in the

Senate to vote him down.If we had Senators like Sanders true progressives he wouldn't stand a chance at getting the leadership position

[The Wizard]

41. His off shore money laundry just

got really busy.

[truthisfreedom]

42. +1 fuck chuck.

He's out of touch.

[geek tragedy]

43. he's very much in touch with the people he considers his constituents nt

[AngryDem001]

45. OK. Who paid Chuck to make this MORONIC decision?

Idiot.

[Hulk]

46. Worthless bastard...LONG BEFORE this decision.

I can't stand the SOB. Haven't been able to stomach him for decades, and this is just another disgusting disgrace from that ass hole. Come on New York.....get rid of the jerk!

[MBS]

50. I was just thinking this myself

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Narcissist and blowhard. There is no shortage of big egos in DC, but, even by DC standards, his egotism and narcissism are over the top. Even without the latest disgrace of his vote against the Iran deal, his narcissism alone disqualifies him from serving as majority/minority leader. Schumer's biggest priority has always been himself, or, rather, himself and the nearest TV camera. To have a position of that sort, the needs of your party, and the policies and pending legislation important to that party, must be the thing that gets you up in the morning. But Schumer is all about himself.
I can't stand him either.

[A Simple Game]

52. Couldn't agree more, where are all the people that would tell me I have to vote for

Schumer because he has a D after his name?

[bigdarryl]

47. When is he up for reelection?

I would love to see a young progressive run against him

[BlueMTexpat]

51. I have already written to Senator Schumer

about this.

Please - all of us should: http://www.schumer.senate.gov/contact/email-chuck

[McKim]

53. Schumer Holds the Purstrings for the Democratic Party Candidates

I know that Schumer forced my senator to give back money that was donated to his campaign by some people here who oppose what some countries are doing around human rights. We cannot continue to give Senator Schumer this power.

[DCBob]

55. Pathetic. Schumer has now joined the Lieberman wing of the party.

[raindaddy]

70. Exactly

Schumer is now a RW Lieberman Democrat.. I wonder what Republican he'll endorse of Bernie gets the nomination?

[blackspade]

56. What a tool.

Schumer is loathsome.

[yallerdawg]

57. Another Democratic betrayal.

With friends like these, who needs Republicans?

[roscoeroscoe]

58. Hey Chuck Schumer:

Israel has killed more American service members than Iran... Remember the Liberty!

[MsMAC]

59. Schumer should move to Israel where he can

throw all his support behind Netanyahu!

[dmosh42]

60. Another foreign agent for Israel!

[iandhr]

61. Chuck has sided with the Judaean Peoples Front...

... instead of the Peoples Front of Judea.

[fbc]

63. Manchurian Chuck

[vkkv]

65. Call his office, I DID! Here are the Tel #'s

New York, NY 10017
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]


Albany, NY 12207
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Binghamton, NY 13901
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]


Buffalo, NY 14202
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]


Peekskill, NY 10566
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Melville, NY 11747
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

[truebrit71]

66. If this tool replaces Harry Reid I will no longer associate myself with the Democratic party.

He is supposed to be a United States Senator looking out for the US and NOT Israel. He's just as bad as LIEbermann...

[lark]

68. Schumer being Dem leader is a total travesty!!

He's the reason we have Roberts and Alito on SCOTUS, he carries water for the Repugs. He's such a dickhead.

[heaven05]

69. this is one of the reasons why

the POTUS has had such difficulty really governing in the last six+ years. Our Party never really lined up behind him except when they felt they might get some local votes or money out of whatever proposal was on the table. Started with Pelosi and Reid and it damn sure didn't get any better.

[forest444]

71. Schumer had no choice.

Bibi probably has dirt on him. Who among us would, under those circumstances, do differently?

[candelista]

78. Or, more plausibly, he has a big pro-Israel constituency.

There is no need to over-explain things.

[tomp]

83. and gillebrand doesn't? nt

[Jester Messiah]

72. Classic 3rd-way DINO bullshit.

He and his ilk can dine on a bowl of genitals.

[Lord Magus]

89. Funny how the "3rd-way" is always just the Republican way.

Actually, not funny at all. But true.

[DCBob]

73. Schumer will regret this..

Schumer’s position “doesn’t change our confidence that we’ll be able to mobilize a substantial majority of Democrats,” Earnest said, but suggested lawmakers should question whether Schumer is fit to become the party’s leader in the Senate next term, saying members may want to “consider the voting record of those who want to lead the caucus.”

“Senator Schumer siding with the GOP against Obama, [Hillary] Clinton and most Democrats will make it hard for him to lead the Dems in ’16,” Dan Pfeiffer, who served as Obama’s senior political adviser until leaving in February, wrote on Twitter. “The base won’t support a leader who thought Obamacare was a mistake and wants War with Iran,” he wrote in another tweet.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-schumer-faces-backlash-for-opposing-iran-nuclear-deal/2015/08/07/0d09af50-3d16-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html

I hope he everyone turns on this dude. He deserves no position of leadership in the Dem party.

[davidpdx]

77. I hope the D caucus gives some thought as to Schumer's votes

[delrem]

75. History shows that these guys ALWAYS get away with it.

There seems to be no discipline in the Dem party. No whip.

Sure, a bit of momentary outrage and empty threats to "primary", but it seems that the pre-eminent Dem characteristic is to be forgetful, after a few weeks or months all traces of memory are gone, and even after a long string of betrayals just one well publicized vote for the Dem side near enough the election is enough to make all those forgetful Dems swoon.

So you get "Dems" like this, and like Webb, and some vague idea that this is "better than a Republican", though for the life of me I don't see how. Seems worse, to me - that the fuckers have infiltrated.

It's bloody weird.

[candelista]

79. Bernie on Schumer:

“I talked to Chuck this morning,” Mr. Sanders said in an interview.

And judging from Mr. Sanders’s comments, it went well for Mr. Schumer.

Asked if he thought other Democratic senators would follow Mr. Schumer in breaking with the president on one of the most important foreign policy issues of his administration, Mr. Sanders said: “Yeah, I do. I think there is, on very, very difficult votes, votes of conscience.

“It’s hard,” he continued, saying that the current Democratic leader, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, and the minority whip, Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, “will do their best to get a party line vote — and they are often successful or 98 percent successful.”

“But there are votes – we are sent here by our constituents and you can’t go home and say, ‘Well I really thought this an enormously important vote, I should have voted yes, but the leadership told me to vote no, so I voted no’ — you can’t do that,” Mr. Sanders said.

He added: “Chuck is a very smart guy and a very good senator. He and I will probably end up disagreeing on this vote."

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/08/07/bernie-sanders-appears-to-give-schumer-obama-answers-they-want/?_r=0

[bucolic_frolic]

80. Lieberman II

and a reminder parties have internal differences

[craigmatic]

81. Looks like his loyalty is to Israeli foreign policy first and America second. He's always been like

that though.

[Lunabell]

84. Eff you Chuck

How much did you get for your betrayal?

[Lord Magus]

88. 30 pieces of silver perhaps?

[Dopers_Greed]

86. How much in "contributions" does Schumer get from "defense" contractors?

eom

[the_sly_pig]

87. F Schumer. Bought and paid for.

Idiots oppose peace.

[LynnTheDem]

90. Sometimes I do wish the left wasn't such a big tent.

STFU Schumer, unless YOU plan to be one of those pairs of boots on the ground to be slaughtered.

Seen the US Military readiness stats lately, dickhead? Not so much on the "ready". Iraq and the longest-running war in US history, Afghanistan? They've kinda depleted the troop levels.

Oh and the average 22 US vet suicides per day don't help.

So either you STFU and let the adults try diplomacy, or you up, buddy-boy.

[geek tragedy]

91. He was more than happy to send young men and women into

Iraq.

[Helen Borg]

92. The Israeli have something on Schumer

Most likely explanation.