Hate Groups Surge, Raking In Cash and New Recruits After Charleston Massacre

[inanna]

Source: SPLC

August 06, 2015

The hate site Stormfront and other racist groups have raked in hundreds of new members and tens of thousands of dollars since Dylann Storm Roof’s brutal June 17 killing spree in Charleston, S.C. Now, Florida officials are investigating Stormfront for illegal business activity.

At its current pace, the hate forum Stormfront will have collected more than $20,000 in donations from its racist supporters in the eight week period following the Dylann Storm Roof massacre in Charleston, S.C. While the rest of America mourned the murders of nine members of an African American church, the mass killings generated a 100 percent spike in Web hits for Stormfront and record cash flow for the world’s largest and most lucrative hate site.

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But at least in Stormfront's case, the cash may not flow so easily for long. Questions have emerged about the legality of operating the world's largest hate website from a private home in suburban West Palm Beach, Fla.

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Local government officials have indicated to Hatewatch that Stormfront may be operating as a business in violation of city ordinances. They confirmed that Black does not have a “business tax receipt” which is required to run a home business. Such permits are only issued after zoning officials sign off on them, according to city officials.

Read more: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/08/06/hate-groups-surge-raking-cash-and-new-recruits-after-charleston-massacre

[msongs]

1. gun sales have skyrocketed since the election of a black president nt

[villager]

2. as have gun massacre apologias

n/t

[Eleanors38]

3. A lot of those purchasers are black. You don't oppose that, do you?

[heaven05]

5. but, but

a lot of the mass murderers are white. You do oppose that, right. And with stormfront out there ginning and agitating racist hate, can't blame black people for buying a weapon for self defense against white racists and getting a CCW. Which white people do make so very difficult for black people to get, THAT'S DECENT, HARDWORKING, LAW ABIDING POC.

[Igel]

8. That's a tough call.

We hear about the white guy who shoots 2-5 people.

Baltimore's murder rate's skyrocketed. One of the details lost in a lot of the reporting is that not infrequently the incidents are one-on-one, but involve multiple victims. Almost all the offenders and victims are African-American.

In other words, perhaps one black guy, perhaps two or three, killing a group of 2-5 people.

One is a mass murderer and makes national news. So many of them turn out to be bona fide fruitcakes, ready for tossing into the loony bin. It becomes an issue of mental health, of availability of guns, of the inadequacy of either the law or the implementation of the law. Or of testosterone poisoning or white something-or-other. There's push-back against claiming it's mental health issues because that sort of lets the victim off the hook; the rest keep the victim on the hook and put "those people" not like us on the hook as well (conservatives, "gun humpers," etc.).

The other is ... strangely ignored. The one thing I have heard about them is that a very high percentage of both offenders and victims didn't finish high school, therefore it's really our problem and our fault for failing these young men. These offenders, for the most part, are doubtfully buying weapons for self-defense against white racists, and they typically don't have concealed weapon permits.

[Eleanors38]

14. School shootings are, unfortunately, the "glamor murders" in our celebrity culture...

That is a major reason for the copy-cat phenomenon. Some will move to theaters as the "style" and media coverage changes, and school security improves; no one accused these killers of being imaginative. But they do see past results: Huge coverage, their beliefs aired daily, commentators at their beck & call, books written about them, records set. I still see books written about Churlie Monsan. That's why they usually see no reason to remain alive: They know the plot formula and they are now celebrities and will be known in history after we are both gone. And you don't get that name rec by some gang shoot-out down the street, just some politicians calling for yet another prohibition.

There seems to be a fairly recent trend of more blacks purchasing firearms. I don't know the numbers or the reasons why. In Detroit, the CoP recommended purchasing a firearm for SD as his shrunken force had average response times approaching 40 minutes. I imagine the vast majority of these purchasers are qualified, and they aren't expecting some Cracker to burn a cross on the lawn. But in other areas, that may not be the case.

[heaven05]

16. I stand by supporting

decent, law abiding citizens carrying a CCW. Too much racist hate out there. Black people killing black people? Always been a problem. When I see young black men ready to cause each other harm, if I can intercede, I always ask the one question. "Why are you hating on each other and want to hurt each other when white people hate you and want you dead by any means necessary"? Usually it stops the altercation and whatever the dispute was starts to be talked out. If more responsible black people would patrol the "government sanctioned ghettos" and "inner cities " of amerikkka, we can stop the carnage you're pointing out in Baltimore because white cops got busted murdering a kid and took their marbles and went home.

Those goddamn cops in Baltimore aren't doing their jobs because they got busted murdering a POC. That's what white cops are doing, because they got busted being racist pigs. I'm sure the black cops are doing their job, while I'm also sure there aren't enough to do the job and they are being sent where they can't help. So this mini expose of yours concerning intrarace killing is noted but rejected totally because of important details being left out, in your mini expose.

Freddie Gray was murdered, he did NOTHING to deserve to die. White cops get busted, they circle the wagons and say f*** the n******, we just won't patrol. Nothing complicated about knowing this as fact.

I did not say anything about angry young black men having weapons legally or to be able to carry a CCW. Where in the hell did you get that? I said, just like decent law abiding privileged members of society, DECENT, LAW ABIDING POC NEED TO HAVE WEAPONS and the CCW to carry them because of white racism, which has a hell of lot to do with the anger we turn on each other, lethally sometimes. I have been around the block a few time in this racist culture and I been on the case, again, big time, since Trayvon Martins murder by a racist. Slick reasoning in trying to turn ones words around has been tried too many times with me in the decades I've been dealing in this racist culture..

[Eleanors38]

15. Not sure I understand, but I believe it is no longer difficult for minorities to obtain guns.

A result of the Civil Rights Movement. I do note that the 1968 Gun Control Act was passed with racist motivations in mind, according to a long-time gun controller of that era. I think the Act had relatively little impact on anyone purchasing arms, it was the enactment of local bans and restrictions which effectively drove the trade in guns under ground (like drugs), and may have aided the disarmament of inner-city residents.

[heaven05]

17. Yeah, you're wrong

not about the racism in amerikkka that keep legal weapons out of the hands of decent, hardworking, law abiding citizens. Just like the white folks carry. Hell I have one right next door. Black people face racism in this area of the law also. No criminal record ect ect ect, still going to take twice, three times the effort as a white person. Usually turned down until petty objections are met or a lawyer gets involved. Please, I live here too. My mind has not been shut down because of insulated privilege or my eyes blind to hate and racism, because I want them so.

[Eleanors38]

18. Experiences differ. The black citizens I know who are armed reported no problems

with purchasing guns, or in obtaining CC permits. And this is Texas. Where do you live? I know NJ, CA, MD and NYC and CHI have antiquated Southern-style gun laws, maybe there are a few more. They are being actively challenged and dismantled, most prominently by the the Cato Institute. But I stand be my original statement.

[heaven05]

19. and

I stand by mine. And I damn well know the Cato Institute could give a damn less if any POC gets a CCW. I double down on my original stand. Texas, black citizens. I will research that before I believe something like that and I love to do research. Texas, POC and easy CCW's. Right......

[Eleanors38]

20. Google pics of Huey P. Newton Gun Club. They're from Dallas.

[heaven05]

22. All I can say

is Excellent!!!!!!!!!!

[Adrahil]

21. My state is a shall isuue state.

Unless you are disqualified from purchasing a gun, you get your carry permit.

I'm not sure I think it's a great idea to hand 'em out liek that, but it removes the racism from the equation.

[bettyellen]

4. It seems they are bothered by the outpouring of concern shown, liked it better when these things

were more acceptable to the general public. Disturbing.

[onehandle]

6. Accelerating the coming tipping point towards the resurgence of gun control.

Tick tock, racists.

[secondvariety]

7. The article quotes

Black as saying Trump's mansion is across the street from his house. If true, the Donald has really had a run of bad luck. Going by Google Street View, 203 Lakeland Drive, West Palm Beach, 33405 is far from fancy. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[tblue37]

9. I suspect that many have joined because they are so ticked off about having to give up the

the display of their hate flag on state government property.

[Hestia]

10. Wouldn't it be wild that this site could be shut down due to back taxes and fines? Dare we hope?

Especially since he knows he is running an illegal business in West Palm Beach? I wonder if he lives by Mar-A-Lago? (Isn't that the name of the of Marjorie Post's house there and Trump bought it?

[Andrej28]

13. It's free speech.

Democrats used to believe in it--even for Nazis parading in Skokie.

Not any more.

[cynzke]

11. From Atlanta Journal Constitution!

Confederate Flag Rally was held At Stone Mountain Park last weekend.

Here is one Big racists.

"Across the parking lot, Allan Croft, a bearded Dalton resident, debated Southern history with a group of young black men.
“Yeah, we didn’t want our daughters to marry you and we didn’t want our children to go to school with you,” he said. “But you’ve got to realize something, your parents didn’t want it, either.”

Croft blamed integration and the civil rights movement on “Communist Jews” and said accused Charleston shooter Dylann Roof “should have went to the synagogue, because that’s the enemy of all of us.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/good-times-at-stone-mountain

[shenmue]

12. One of their members is on a religious forum I go to

It's a different board, Orthodox Christianity.net. They have a politics section, which I have been kicked off, for reasons that were not explained to me. The politics section is private and you can only get in if you have permission from one of the board moderators.

Anyway, during the years I was allowed in the Politics area, they acquired a fellow whose user i.d. is "Charles Martel." A little googling revealed he posted anti-semitic videos and clips in support of neo-fascists Golden Dawn, at You Tube. He did this under the user i.d. "SISWaffen."

A little googling for *that* name revealed he was a long-time poster and strident neo-nazi who hates the usual bunch, Jewish people, gay people, women who go to work, etc. A very frightening man. A big fella at Stormfront. Paid contributor and everything.

Sometimes I hate people.