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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:08 AM Aug 2015

Nebraska will challenge the EPA emissions rule, attorney general says

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Cody Winchester and Joseph Morton

Nebraska and Iowa would need to cut carbon emissions more aggressively than previously expected under a new White House plan for U.S. power plants, and Nebraska already is promising a court fight.

Attorney General Doug Peterson said his state will join others in challenging Environmental Protection Agency rules that aim to cut carbon emissions in the power sector by 32 percent. An earlier version called for a 30 percent reduction.

“Nebraska will challenge the final rule and EPA’s legal authority to adopt the regulations,” Peterson said. “Left unchecked, this inappropriate jurisdictional overreach of the federal government will have serious consequences by driving electrical costs up for all Nebraskans across our state.”

Midlands utilities, regulators and elected officials are still reviewing the details of the Obama administration’s Clean Power Plan, which was unveiled Monday.

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trusty elf

(7,393 posts)
1. "this inappropriate jurisdictional overreach......will have serious consequences..."
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:16 AM
Aug 2015


serious consequences? What about the friggin' planet going up in flames?
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
2. They shall lose
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:25 AM
Aug 2015

I hope that this will serve as an example, when they lose big time.
The liars are saying that it will raise electric rates, and cost jobs. In NY we have a similar program, for about 6 years, and electric rates have dropped, and there are more green jobs. So this is a proven lie.
Those who choose to challenge this will find out that they are simply wrong.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
3. You do realize Nebraska is about as far from New York as any 2 places could possibly be?
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:36 AM
Aug 2015

New York has around 47k square miles and 20 million people while Nebraska has around 75k square miles and 1.8 million people. Let's not pretend what happened in New York has any bearing on what will happen on Nebraska. NY has 10 times more people in half the area, of coarse something like this would be cheaper per capita in NY...Maybe Nebraska should catch a break on the emissions requirements of their power plants since the population of Nebraska aren't anywhere near as damaging to the environment as New Yorkers are...

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
6. Plenty of room out there for wind turbines, etc.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:08 AM
Aug 2015

Saying it won't work out of hand is not a very positive position, but that's your deal.

Brown must go, green must prevail.

A Republican shithook squealing is not a very good ally.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
7. Urban elitism driving policy isn't helping
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:24 AM
Aug 2015

I have actually been to and lived in both Nebraska and a fair amount of time in New York. There has never been a smog alert in Nebraska. The air quality in Nebraska is among the best in the nation.

The point is, pretty much anything that has happened in New York has dick to do with what the circumstances are in Nebraska. New york doesn't get to decide what is or isn't good or right for Nebraska.

Maybe New York should subsidize Nebraska's conversion?

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
8. You dis New York, but
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:06 PM
Aug 2015

Had there been no New York, there would be no Nebraska.
We are not talking about quality of life in a locality, we are talking about the quality of the environment of Planet Earth. Everyone has to chip in to stop the environmental destruction that has been going on for quite some time. There is no Plan(et) B.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
14. I'm not dissing NY, I like NY fine (to visit)
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:11 PM
Aug 2015

It was you in post 2 trying to compare what works for NY to NE, which is a ridiculous comparison by anyone who knows both places. Frankly there is space the size of the state of NY in NE where only 50k people live. The state is already cutting medicaid reimbursement, school funding, and other services because of budget shortfalls.

Again, my point is that pretty much any comparison between Nebraska and New York is ludicrous.

Oh, and if it weren't for Nebraska New York would starve..the whole 'your existence depends on me' is a 2 way street most of the time...

christx30

(6,241 posts)
11. I agree.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:05 PM
Aug 2015

The people that want something really expensive should pay for it, and not people that want nothing to do with it.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
15. some decisions make sense for 20 million people
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 07:00 PM
Aug 2015

In a given space that does not make sense for 1/10th the people living on twice as much area. A good example of this is public transportation....public transportation in most of Kansas, Nebraska, Dakotas, etc. Is nonexistent because it is cost prohibitive.

A pet peeve of mine, having lived in Ks and NE my whole life, is people in metropolitan states who have only flown over, trying to compare...really anything in these states to their state. I have traveled most of the US and the plains states and sparsely populated areas have different needs....sometimes completely opposite to the needs of densely populated areas..

mariawr

(348 posts)
4. Nebraska should check their neighbors to the South...Kansas has invested in wind turbines ...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:48 AM
Aug 2015

..and Nebraska should look into how that has impacted energy availability

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
5. How short-sighted of them ...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:02 AM
Aug 2015

> Nebraska has the 4th largest wind resource in the country
> -- developing it could create tens of thousands of jobs.
(http://www.nrdc.org/energy/renewables/nebraska.asp)

Nebraska politicians should be fighting hard to get the EPA emissions
rule not only passed but strengthened as it would greatly benefit the
state to be a leader in the renewables race rather than a loser in the
futile fossil fuel future.


Brother Buzz

(36,434 posts)
9. Perhaps these idiots should first talk to Nebraska citizen, Warren Buffett about his thoughts...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:23 PM
Aug 2015

and plans for green footprints and renewable energy.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
10. NE elect gen is 70% coal
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:46 PM
Aug 2015

It's probably a handful of coal plants given the size of the state. Replace with a gas plant and you'll get twice the bang for the buck. Combined cycle gas plants are twice as efficient as coal plants and are much cheaper to run over time. Better yet build renewables. The utility is probably balking at the start up costs.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
13. this is where state's rights will destroy a planet
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:32 PM
Aug 2015

We all only have one world but we act like selfish babies .

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