Sen. Manchin Will Vote To End Planned Parenthood Aid

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Source: TPM

West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin says he will back a Republican bill cutting off federal aid for Planned Parenthood.

Manchin is a moderate and his decision Monday was not a complete surprise. Even so, Republicans were still expected to lose a Senate vote later Monday to halt federal assistance to the group.

Republicans introduced their bill after an anti-abortion group began releasing secretly recorded videos showing Planned Parenthood officials describing how they provide tissue from some aborted fetuses to researchers. The bill says it would transfer Planned Parenthood's aid to other women's health care providers.

Manchin said in a statement that until questions about Planned Parenthood are answered, the organization should not receive taxpayer funds.

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https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin/status/628261580447158273

[blackspade]

1. Another fake Democrat shanking minorities and the poor.

Asshole.

Manchin said in a statement that until questions about Planned Parenthood are answered, the organization should not receive taxpayer funds.

What questions you spineless prick? It's a fake story to stoke outrage and kill funding for an organization that helps poor and needy women/families. Gutless turds like this are the worst.

[vlakitti]

4. Great comment.

Yay! Thank you for saying it.

[daybranch]

13. I too say great comment

Thanks for posting.

[mountain grammy]

28. Agree, 100%

spineless prick indeed, and a gutless turd. He is no Democrat in my book..

[fbc]

40. +1

[roguevalley]

42. let him have it:

http://www.contactsenators.com/west-virginia/joe-manchin

[DFW]

2. This is NOT the position of a moderate

It is the position of someone bowing to an extremist position so as not to be vulnerable to subsequent accusations of being a baby-killer, a charge easily refuted, even in West Virginia. It is the position of a coward.

[L0oniX]

6. "the position of a coward" or in others words "without a spine".

More common than not in the Dem party. Hey if I made that kind of money I might play chicken shit too.

[DFW]

17. That doesn't follow

Friends of mine in Dallas make over $1 million a year and are heavy donors to PP.

[L0oniX]

49. Yea ...it's now normal and common to have friends that make over a milion a year.

[DFW]

60. It is for some people anyway.

In Dallas, it's no big deal, just like in DC, it's no big deal to know Senators, Presidents and Congresspeople. Just because my dad wasn't one, as a member of the press, it was normal for him to know all those people. Just because I don't make a million a year doesn't mean it's a big deal because I know people who do. What's the normal protocol now, turn your back on your friends if they should have the misfortune to become successful?

[L0oniX]

3. I expect many more of these Dinos to infect the party. That's what happens as the party goes right.

I expect Hillary will help that movement.

[swilton]

15. +

[StevieM]

36. You seriously expect Hillary Clinton to turn on Planned Parenthood?

I can't even begin to imagine that happening.

[Starry Messenger]

55. She supports PP.

Vocally.

[Recursion]

57. It's called the "fifty state strategy", and it's rather popular here

It involves recruiting candidates who can win in conservative states and districts, which means they aren't going to be progressives.

[L0oniX]

67. ^^^Note the support for Dino's^^^

[MisterP]

5. "but if we criticize Manchin a Pub will get in and vote to end Planned Parenthood!"

[blackspade]

10. Too late....

[still_one]

38. How will he vote in n the Iran deal, and how did he vote on other issues

That is the problem with Howard Dean's50 state strategy

It calls for inclusion of differences in from the traditional Demand critic party since FDR. It assumes progressives cannot win in certain southern states, but if we accept the blue dogs, then we. Can have the majority in congress

That is what happened in 2008, and why we got the ACA and not single payer

It is a double edged sword for sure

The advantage is if we win the majority in the Senate or house, Demand carts can set the agenda

[Recursion]

58. Yup. And will also vote for a lot of other things we also don't like, which Manchin votes with us on

Welcome to adulthood. If you know a pro-choice Democrat who can win in WV, by all means tell the DSCC.

[Arkana]

68. I'm having trouble thinking of another DEMOCRAT

that can win in WV, let alone a pro-choice Democrat.

[DURHAM D]

7. What an A-Hole.

Obviously does not understand what PPH actually does for women and children in West Virginia where healthcare is beyond pathetic.

[onecaliberal]

8. Primary this piece of shit.

[NYCButterfinger]

11. Can a progressive win in West Virginia?

That's the big question. West Virginia is a right-leaning state, but it should be contested in 2016. Hillary Clinton can win the state.

[onecaliberal]

21. I have no idea, but if we have a dumb ass who votes

With republicans who cares. I'm sick of these fucking men who think they need to decide healthcare and control of women. NOT okay!

[still_one]

39. That is the question, and the strategy of Howard Dean's 50 state strategy

[Recursion]

56. An anti-choice Republican would be better? (nt)

[NYCButterfinger]

9. I don't agree with all of Manchin's positions, but he's the best Democrats can have in West Virginia

I rather have Manchin re-elected in 2018 and 2024 than see another Republican in West Virginia. The women of West Virginia will have to question Manchin in November 2018, and if he loses in 2018, West Virginia Democrats are going to be extinct. I am a man, but I will leave this issue to women to decide.

[tularetom]

31. What good is a Democrat who always votes with the republicans?

And as far as West Virginia is concerned, it's the perfect case study in the ultimate failure of a resource extraction based economy. It's residents have been duped into fouling their own environment for decades so that out of state investors could get rich. And its politicians Democratic and republican, have made careers out of shilling for the people who have tuned the place.

And when its no longer economical to get anymore coal, gas, timber out of there, the investors will just walk away, leaving the residents in the pile of shit they created. It's already started, with interruptions to the water supply for thousands of residents.

[NYC Liberal]

35. Well, if the choice is between a Democrat who votes with Democrats 85% of the time

and a Republican who votes with Democrats only 10-15% of the time — and that is probably the only choice in WV — I'll take the Democrat, DINO as they may be.

The good they do is that things like committee majorities and heads are determined by pure party seat count. If Democrats have 51 seats, then we get all the committee assignments — even if some of those Dems are DINOs/conservadems.

Between a DINO and an actual liberal/progressive, of course, we should support the liberal any every time.

[Recursion]

63. Why this very simple fact continues to elude so much of DU is beyond me

People are saying sarcastically "but he's better than a Republican?" Fuck yes he is better than a Republican because who holds the majority determines so much of how the chamber runs.

[MadCrow]

48. People in WV still think "Coal is King"

If WV had been smart and not in the pocket of out-of-state interests, they would have put a tax on every ton of coal that left the state. I live here and everywhere you look there are "Friends of Coal" signs. The hand-writing has been on the wall for decades that a coal based economy was not sustainable. We have to change our focus. At the Bermie's meeting on the 29th I met a man who said that a plant near Charleston has the raw materials and capabilities of manufacturing solar panels, but the coal and gas lobbies are against it.The people here don't have any vision. I don't think that coal miner's really want their sons to follow in their footsteps ,but there aren't any other well-paying jobs for young men without a college education. As a result, one of our major exports is our young people.
As far as the chemical spill in the Kanawha River goes, it was discovered by an employee of the WV Office of Air Quality Control where my daughter works. The employee was sent out to investigate a licorice odor in that general vicinity. He discovered the leaky tank and saw that it was draining directly into the river just about a mile from the intake for the water company.

[Recursion]

62. It's better than someone who literally always votes with the Republicans

If you know someone more liberal than Manchin who can win in WV by all means put his or her name forward.

[CharlotteVale]

12. So "moderate" is the term for anti-woman now?

[swilton]

14. +

[misterhighwasted]

16. "transfer Planned Parenthood's aid to other women's health care providers." Christian ones, right ??

"The funds will go to other women's health care providers", is a another way of hiding the truth. It will be given to anti-abortion providers.

Same shit they are doing with Public School funds, going to Christian Charter Schools.

The move to an American Theocratic Government marches forward.
I could live in Saudi for this shit.

[brooklynite]

18. Another candidate I'll be cutting off funding for.

[Efilroft Sul]

19. The (D) after his name stands for douchebag.

No goddamned moderate would do such a thing. This is knee-jerk conservatism playing to the rubes. For the record, his state had the eighth-highest teenage pregnancy rate in 2011 — up from the twenty-fourth spot in 2008.

http://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-health-topics/reproductive-health/states/wv.html

Manchin was governor of West Virginia from January 17, 2005 to November 15, 2010, and the increase in teenage pregnancies happened mostly on his watch. He should be looking to reverse that trend in his home state, but noooooooooo! Let's cut Planned Parenthood funding!

[Dont call me Shirley]

30. D is for Dickwipe.

[George II]

20. He's been very disappointing.

[Hawaii Hiker]

22. WV USE to be a fairly blue state

Carter won it twice - even in 1980..

Clinton won it twice

Dukakis won it in 1988!!

2 Democratic senators for the longest time, including a rather liberal Rockefeller..

Now its as red as can be in presidential elections, and Manchin is best we can hope for in the senate....He's the Ben Nelson of 2015...

Orange bang head man time,

[turbinetree]

23. Now lets all sit back and see which....................

"insider" network is going to bring him and others on and talk to a "insider" moderator on "why" he /she did this------------

I bet if you saw this exchange what would your stance be:

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/07/judge-bars-release-any-california-based

http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2015/07/meet-press-panel-treats-planned

[Cryptoad]

24. FBI needs to work a little harder,,,,

I ve got a dog that doesn't even believe that the fabricated film about Planned Parenthood being released just before this Senate vote is nothing but happenstance!

[truebrit71]

25. DINO asshole....

"but, but, but...he's better than a republican...." Oh, really? How?

[AllFieldsRequired]

26. Ass

[malokvale77]

27. But any (D) is better than any (R).

That's what I keep hearing anyway.

[Recursion]

61. Because it's true

His opponent in the last election ran on abolishing the Federal minimum wage, IRS, Department of Education, and Department of Energy.

[Teamster Jeff]

29. Red States keep your fucking blue dogs. Figure something else out

[jalan48]

32. Are moderate and Blue Dog Democrats the same?

[Recursion]

59. "Blue dog" is a specific caucus in the House

Strictly speaking, the "blue dogs" are the 15 Representatives in the Blue Dog Coalition:

http://bluedogcaucus-schrader.house.gov/members

Past members have included Gabby Giffords and John Barrow (the last white Democrat from the deep South, who lost in 2014).

But, the term is sometimes used to describe southern and western Democrats in the Senate: Manchin, Nelson, Tester, McCaskill, and Heitkamp.

"Moderate" is just a description, and can apply to a lot of things. Generally the right end of the D caucus and the left end of the R caucus are called "moderates".

The blue dog coalition is, in general, socially conservative and fiscally somewhat liberal. This is in contrast to the "New Democrats" group, which are rather the opposite: pro-choice and pro-LGBT rights, but tend to prefer more laissez faire economic policy (Blue Dogs will generally be strongly pro-union and anti-immigration).

[jalan48]

66. Thanks for the info. It's helps me understand the party differences better.

[november3rd]

33. Elmer Fudd

This guy's the Dem's answer to Donald Trump

[Raine1967]

34. no words that I can post here.

One word begins with an F
the other begins with M

folioed by words that begin with A T D S T P N T M W.
What he needs to do is SUPPORT PLANNED PARENTHOOD because these questions are based in LIES !!!

[asjr]

37. I am not surprised. I have never liked that man. There has

always been a sneaky antenna on his head. He should never be re-elected. He reminds me of one of those lizards that change colors by stepping on paint samples.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

43. He may actually be the "best" Dems can hope for in W VA. at the moment

which must be pretty depressing for W. Va. Democrats.

[ileus]

47. WV is probably gonna can him because he's too far to the left for them.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

41. Conversely

shouldn't he WAIT until "questions" about Planned Parenthood are answered BEFORE federal funding is cut off- that is even if there are really any further questions that have to be answered? The full videotape footage has been released showing the full context of the questions asked and answered of the PP officials, which indicate that nothing untoward was happening. Why is the burden of proof on PP to answer these charges anyway? Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the people making the accusations? Abortions and fetal tissue donation don't even comprise a large part of PP's operations. And they're going to try to cut ALL of its federal funding over heavily doctored video footage just because it makes people feel "uncomfortable" about what happens during LEGAL medical procedures?

[secondwind]

44. Manchin takes the easy way out, knowing full well that his "no" vote won't amount to anything..

[Charles de Gaudless]

45. I loved him on "The Flintstones"

[NYCButterfinger]

46. Why has West Virginia turned so far to the right since 2000?

Al Gore could have campaigned more in WV and in Ohio, increasing the African-American voters there. John Kerry could have campaigned harder there in 2004 as well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2013/10/26/a-blue-states-road-to-red/

[Marthe48]

52. Dems gonna take their guns

My husband worked in an aluminum plant on the Ohio side of the Ohio river. Lots of WV co-workers. Every election, they all talked about the Democrats taking their guns. My husband asked over and over--how many of your guns have Democrats taken? Deaf ears. So the Repugs took the jobs, the social safety net, medical care, just stripping it all down like an old car, and WV is turning red because of guns.

[Agony]

50. Planned Parenthood is not providing fetal tissue to researchers

PP is facilitating the process whereby patients elect to donate their fetal tissue for medical research.

So… What questions? Get your SHIT together Manchin, there are no questions that are unanswered if you aren't a fucking idiot.

The Democratic Party should cut all ties to you and the Senate Democratic leadership should make sure that you became a permanent backbencher.

"Nucatola repeatedly talks about affiliates only wanting to provide a service to their patients, who elect to donate the tissue for medical research, and not having that service impact their bottom lines. She says that it’s “not a new revenue stream the affiliates are looking at” and that “nobody should be ‘selling’ tissue. That’s just not the goal here.” She says some affiliates might donate the tissue for free."

[Marthe48]

51. Manchin is a self-serving tool

He is like Mr. Haney on Green Acres. Don't expect him to be a Democratic Senator. He is a DINO (saur)

[TDale313]

53. Fuck him.

I don't give a damn if he has a D after his name- if he's aiding Repugs in their war on women, he's not on our side.

[NYCButterfinger]

54. With this, I can't see Hillary picking him as VP

The Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia would be chaotic with Manchin as VP, most likely. He's still better than a Tea Party nut.

[davidpdx]

65. Weak shit

Toss him out of the party if he can't support reproductive rights.