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seafan

(9,387 posts)
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:18 PM Aug 2015

Doctor becomes second American named in African lion-killing investigation: Pittsburgh gynecologist

Source: UK Daily Mail

10:38 EST, 2 August 2015

A second American has been named in a growing big game poaching investigation in Zimbabwe.
Pennsylvania Dr. Jan Seski is accused of killing a lion in April and his guides have been arrested in the African Country.

Dr. Seski has been pictured online with a series of dead animals including elephants, hippos, zebras, ostriches, and water buffalo. An online hunting club claims he has killed six elephants.

It comes a week after Africa's most famous lion Cecil was killed by Minnesota Dentist Dr. Walter Palmer in early July, sparking international outrage.

.....

Seski was involved in an illegal hunt of a lion in April around Zimbabwe's Hwange National Park, said the National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority in a statement released to CBS.
A Zimbabwean landowner named Headman Sibanda was arrested in the case and is assisting police with their investigation, the authority said. He named Seski as being involved in the hunt.

Dr. Seski is listed as being Director of Gynecologic Oncology at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3183020/Doctor-second-American-named-African-lion-killing-investigation-Pittsburgh-gynecologist-posed-dead-elephants-hippos-zebras-ostriches-water-buffalo-accused-killing-lion.html




Dr. Jan Seski is listed as being Director of Gynecologic Oncology at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania
(via Daily Mail)

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Doctor becomes second American named in African lion-killing investigation: Pittsburgh gynecologist (Original Post) seafan Aug 2015 OP
Now this is an excellent opportunity for shaming. Peregrine Took Aug 2015 #1
His facebook page is located Malraiders Aug 2015 #2
Just paid a little visit to his Facebook page. PearliePoo2 Aug 2015 #21
It's not really his Facebook page TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #44
I followed your lead... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #50
I hope there is an analogous social media campaign.. swilton Aug 2015 #3
his yelp page is already being hit, along with "ratemds" magical thyme Aug 2015 #7
They are piling on. I spent 10 minutes there finding reviews "helpful". PearliePoo2 Aug 2015 #25
I was just thinking same - about caring for people vs. harming animals. n/t complain jane Aug 2015 #12
anonymous is awesome. he killed a fucking bull elephant. HOW DO YOU DO THAT!!?! roguevalley Aug 2015 #33
He looks like a mean SOB! Helen Borg Aug 2015 #4
gynecologic oncology? bet he hates women as well as wild niyad Aug 2015 #5
and another one with a criminal background! magical thyme Aug 2015 #6
Geez Louise. Thanks for that info, magical thyme. seafan Aug 2015 #9
so both these vanilla looking bald medical men are involved with MULTIPLE law breaking activites dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #15
not that I am defending him on any count, Karma13612 Aug 2015 #19
the drugs were bought by him (and other doctors) at a steep discount magical thyme Aug 2015 #26
no surprise. MBS Aug 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author bluestateguy Aug 2015 #8
Jan is a multigender name Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #16
I would encourage you to delete this. Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #20
What a turd Gregorian Aug 2015 #10
it also illustrates an important political issue restorefreedom Aug 2015 #11
it's all write offs. fly to africa, chat with local dentists...voila business tax deductions nt msongs Aug 2015 #13
that bullshit needs to stop too imo. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #14
This is what our privatized health care system encourages swilton Aug 2015 #47
It's not only adult animals this sick bastard kills. seafan Aug 2015 #17
I despise this man's actions, but... Adsos Letter Aug 2015 #29
Thanks for that info. seafan Aug 2015 #37
I've often wondered what they looked like before their gene duplication event. cab67 Aug 2015 #51
It won't be long before wild animals will be extinct. Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #18
There's already a profession for that - TBF Aug 2015 #46
Hw about sending that whole organization sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #22
Hell, they're already terrorists. Probably join ISIS to have free access to human targets. erronis Aug 2015 #28
Six elephants. That's worse than the lion kill by far. nt ladjf Aug 2015 #23
Makes me want to cry. TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #30
Seski, MD, also serves as medical director of the Center for Bloodless Medicine and Surgery seafan Aug 2015 #27
I hope his infamy spread and he gets the same notoriety as the dentist. procon Aug 2015 #41
How much does he donate to Republicans? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #31
beat me to it. nt navarth Aug 2015 #35
If the authorities aren’t going to prosecute dorkzilla Aug 2015 #32
god, i didnt think it was possible to despise this any more than I did. roguevalley Aug 2015 #34
, lonestarnot Aug 2015 #36
These people are not THAT old. Teddy Roosevelt used to do this kind of shit. MADem Aug 2015 #38
I don't understand either catrose Aug 2015 #39
Really--it makes no sense. MADem Aug 2015 #42
Apparently our Medical and Dental bills are so damn high CanonRay Aug 2015 #40
he looks like the dentist JI7 Aug 2015 #43
this is why d_r Aug 2015 #45
fucking coward Skittles Aug 2015 #48
Hippocratic Oath: First do no harm. Marie Marie Aug 2015 #49
OMG. blue neen Aug 2015 #52
saw another huntress from that link above. IcyPeas Aug 2015 #53
Doctors that kill..........hum Historic NY Aug 2015 #54

Peregrine Took

(7,417 posts)
1. Now this is an excellent opportunity for shaming.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:21 PM
Aug 2015

Shame on you, Seski.

What's wrong with you?

What possible thrill can you get from this?

Make you feel like a real.....man???????

I think we all know the truth about THAT little matter, don't we?

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
21. Just paid a little visit to his Facebook page.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:16 PM
Aug 2015

It's really brutal over there and he deserves every bit of what he's getting and more.
I spent 10 minutes "liking" all the appropriate posts.
I hope this murderous, asshole's life is now toast.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
3. I hope there is an analogous social media campaign..
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:28 PM
Aug 2015

When they're supposedly in the business of caring for people, it seems so contradictory to be harming animals -

BTW - just saw a recent post that 'Anonymous' is onto them and has started a campaign of exposure.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
25. They are piling on. I spent 10 minutes there finding reviews "helpful".
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:26 PM
Aug 2015

Guys like this make me want to vomit.
He is one really sick fucker.
I hope his life is ruined and he goes to jail. It won't bring the dead animals back but maybe global awareness and outrage is now really kicking in and things will change.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
6. and another one with a criminal background!
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:33 PM
Aug 2015
https://www.fbi.gov/sandiego/press-releases/2013/pittsburgh-oncology-practice-pleads-guilty-to-buying-unapproved-foreign-drugs

Pittsburgh Oncology Practice Pleads Guilty to Buying Unapproved Foreign Drugs
United States Attorney Laura E. Duffy announced today that Jan C. Seski, M.D. & Associates, P.C., an oncology practice based in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, pleaded guilty to a criminal charge of having caused the introduction of an unapproved drug into interstate commerce and was ordered to pay a $100,000 fine. Magistrate Judge Karen S. Crawford also ordered the defendant to place ads in two medical journals, warning of the dangers of unapproved drugs.

In pleading guilty earlier today before Judge Crawford, the medical practice admitted that between December 4, 2008 and May 25, 2011, the practice ordered $973,795 worth of foreign versions of the oncology drugs Eloxatin7, Gemzar7, and Taxotere7 from GlobalRxStore.com and had them shipped through Oberlin Medical Supply of San Diego. The drugs ordered by the practice were determined to be foreign versions of these drugs and were not approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in the United States.

seafan

(9,387 posts)
9. Geez Louise. Thanks for that info, magical thyme.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:47 PM
Aug 2015

After killing six elephants, he may be involved in the illegal ivory trade as well.

The photographs at the Daily Mail link are mind-numbingly heartbreaking.



We are going deep into this forest.


dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. so both these vanilla looking bald medical men are involved with MULTIPLE law breaking activites
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:04 PM
Aug 2015

the dentist for sexual assault ( settled out of court) and a felony for poaching bear IN a state park and for luring Cecil out of the protected reserve
and the dentist for importing illegal meds ( bet someone made money off the markup).

What is this, overcompensation for being bald and pasty white?

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
19. not that I am defending him on any count,
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:11 PM
Aug 2015

In this specific case regarding the foreign version of chemotherapy drugs, he might have been trying to get a more reasonably priced version of drugs that are astronomically expensive here in the US. Hopefully he was passing the savings on to the patients. But, maybe not. In any event, Americans are charged more for some drugs than the exact same drugs over in other countries and that is not right.

again, I am not condoning breaking the law, but big Pharma in the US is fleecing the American public and the FDA makes it legal because they don't approve equally effective, but more cost-effective versions of a drug for use in the US.

outside of that, this GYN is just as bad as the DDS. Very hypocritical human beings.

#feelthebern!16

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
26. the drugs were bought by him (and other doctors) at a steep discount
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:27 PM
Aug 2015

unless he passed that discount on to his patients, he was profiting from it. Maybe another way to fund his $50K killing sprees.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/october/internet-pharmacy-operator-gets-jail-time

Two doctors have admitted knowingly buying the foreign drugs. One of them, a Pennsylvania oncologist whose practice purchased nearly $1 million worth of the misbranded drugs, was recently fined $100,000 and ordered to place ads in two medical journals warning of the dangers of unapproved drugs (see sidebar).

Here issome of the ad he was required to place (bf mine):

"Do not put your patients, yourself or your practice at risk by purchasing and administering unapproved foreign-sourced drugs. Most of the drugs from foreign sources have not been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and may include misbranded, adulterated and counterfeit versions of FDA-approved drugs. They may not be of suitable quality to ensure safety or efficacy.”

MBS

(9,688 posts)
24. no surprise.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

In my experience, at least, people who treat animals badly usually also treat people badly. And are rarely the kinds of folks I'd pick as model citizens.

Response to seafan (Original post)

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
16. Jan is a multigender name
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:06 PM
Aug 2015

So why bring that into? Seriously, there's enough to go into with out making it all about sexuality.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
11. it also illustrates an important political issue
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:49 PM
Aug 2015

clearly these doctors are not being taxed enough. We've got to get a higher tax bracket on the disgustingly wealthy, then at least with just what little money they might have left get a small sailboat instead of killing beautiful innocent creatures.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
47. This is what our privatized health care system encourages
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 07:18 PM
Aug 2015

Not doctors who care about people but those who are in it for $$$.

seafan

(9,387 posts)
17. It's not only adult animals this sick bastard kills.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015



Dr. Jan Seski poses here with what appears to be a tiny deer he killed on a hunt in Africa where he is accused of illegally poaching a lion




(Images via Daily Mail)


I need to vomit.

seafan

(9,387 posts)
37. Thanks for that info.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 04:57 PM
Aug 2015

If this is that little critter, an adult would measure 12-16" at the shoulder, weigh 7-16#, this one looks like a male with horns, and they are monogamous. Wiki

These animals deserve so much more than to be mercilessly hunted by the likes of Walter Palmer and himself, for the sole reason of feeding his ego and adorning the walls in his shrine of horrors, like Walter Palmer's.

cab67

(3,010 posts)
51. I've often wondered what they looked like before their gene duplication event.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 10:59 PM
Aug 2015

(Get it? They're the dik-dik following duplication of their genome, but before that, they were just called…)

Anyhow - I've seen plenty of dik-diks in the wild. Some of them are almost tame. It's like hunting for city pigeons.

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
18. It won't be long before wild animals will be extinct.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015

I guess then monsters like this doctor will start hunting people?

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
22. Hw about sending that whole organization
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:17 PM
Aug 2015

to Syria to fight ISIS?

It is high time to put a legal stop to this!

seafan

(9,387 posts)
27. Seski, MD, also serves as medical director of the Center for Bloodless Medicine and Surgery
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:46 PM
Aug 2015
Allegheny Health Network home page

OUR DOCTORS



Jan Seski, MD, serves as medical director of the Center for Bloodless Medicine and Surgery.

Dr. Seski is a gynecologic oncologist who is also a respected national leader in bloodless medicine and surgery. He developed an interest in bloodless surgery while a faculty member at M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in the late 1970’s. Along with his colleagues there, Dr. Seski pioneered a hemodilution technique that enabled them to successfully operate on patients who did not accept blood transfusions.



I would think the Allegheny Health Network might look for another medical director.




(via Daily Mail)

procon

(15,805 posts)
41. I hope his infamy spread and he gets the same notoriety as the dentist.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 05:27 PM
Aug 2015

I wouldn't trust anyone who deliberately kills animals for thrills and 'pleasure' to make appropriate decisions for his human patients. He needs to go.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
32. If the authorities aren’t going to prosecute
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 04:15 PM
Aug 2015

and the locals will help with their vile hobby the only way to stop these scumbags from trophy hunting is to name and shame so they lose their livelihood and have no money in which to pursue and murder these beautiful creatures.

I’m also getting REALLY sick of people coming up with this “but you don’t get this outraged when x happens...” with the ever-dwindling animal population and the ever-increasing numbers of humans, we must voice our outrage because THEY CAN’T.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
34. god, i didnt think it was possible to despise this any more than I did.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 04:19 PM
Aug 2015

pasty faced pinched faced fucker. Anonymous, out them all. Kill their careers, kill their obsession,

MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. These people are not THAT old. Teddy Roosevelt used to do this kind of shit.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 05:00 PM
Aug 2015

He didn't know any better, and that bloodthirstiness is a stain on his legacy today.

When you watched the Three Stooges, they would do riffs and schticks about the "Great White Hunter," who would shoot animals and put the skins on the floor and the heads on the wall. I grew up seeing that shit in the movies.

That said, after awhile, people came to the conclusion that there aren't many societies where doing this is necessary, useful, humane, sensible--a few remote tribes, for clothing, food, tools, etc., but not for people living in civilized society. Fake fur became more popular than regular fur. Photo safaris were how you went "hunting."

What POSSESSES these supposed healers to want to get their jollies hunting and killing shit for sport? It's a perverse thing. Why are they both in the medical profession? Is it a quirk in that gig, or something? I am so tired of looking at orafices, I just have to KILL SOMETHING!!!!!!!

What is the motivation? I just do. not. understand.

catrose

(5,075 posts)
39. I don't understand either
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 05:11 PM
Aug 2015

But I sure wouldn't want those hands anywhere near me. And what is this, with him promoting bloodless surgery? So then he needs to let an animal's blood.

I'm not sure what they think other people think when they show off their kill photos. Me, major disgust.

And I come from a family of hunters, hunters who put meat on the table and didn't let the wounded suffer 40 hours. I don't think my uncles and cousins would recognize these guys as hunters. I hope not, anyway.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
42. Really--it makes no sense.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 05:27 PM
Aug 2015

I have a brother in law who puts food on the table in the same fashion, but he wouldn't go for this at all. It's reprehensible.

And what is UP with "posing with the carcass?" Ugh.

CanonRay

(14,120 posts)
40. Apparently our Medical and Dental bills are so damn high
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 05:24 PM
Aug 2015

so these ass holes can go and shoot big animals to strengthen their withered penises. OK, now I understand!

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
49. Hippocratic Oath: First do no harm.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 10:40 PM
Aug 2015

Guess they take a very narrow view of their oath. Animals are not people after all, but if Corporations can be people, why aren't animals awarded that same status. They are at least living, breathing biological entities.

Anyway, screw this guy and may he suffer the same public outrage as Cecil's assassin.

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