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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 09:38 AM Aug 2015

Obama to Unveil 'Biggest Step Ever' in Climate Fight

Source: Discovery

President Barack Obama will Monday unveil what he called the “biggest, most important step we’ve ever taken” to fight climate change, a sensitive issue central to his legacy.

The White House will release the final version of America’s Clean Power Plan, a set of environmental rules and regulations that will home in on the pollution from the nation’s power plants, setting limits on power-plant carbon emissions.

Laying out how climate change was a threat to the health, well being and security of millions of Americans, and adding that time was of the essence, Obama said in a video released early Sunday: “Climate change is not a problem for another generation. Not anymore.”

“Power plants are the single biggest source of harmful carbon pollution that contributes to climate change,” added Obama, who made the battle against climate change a core promise of his 2008 election campaign.

Read more: http://news.discovery.com/earth/global-warming/obama-to-unveil-biggest-step-ever-in-climate-fight-150802.htm



Really looking forward to hearing this.
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Obama to Unveil 'Biggest Step Ever' in Climate Fight (Original Post) Recursion Aug 2015 OP
That's my President Botany Aug 2015 #1
Mine too (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #2
The man is one of the best Presidents ever Botany Aug 2015 #6
Yeah. MBS Aug 2015 #10
And he and his adminstration did all that even w/republicans who met on the night of .... Botany Aug 2015 #11
" " " " " n/tt MBS Aug 2015 #22
Yes! BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2015 #3
I read that the US Navy is the single largest source psychopomp Aug 2015 #4
Where did you hear that? Android3.14 Aug 2015 #9
Kind of hard to just say "the Navy". They're not really ONE source 7962 Aug 2015 #13
Actually, the USN is a leader in CO2 reduction farmbo Aug 2015 #26
Excellent! Kath1 Aug 2015 #5
Glad to hear it. I hope he can succeed with it. jalan48 Aug 2015 #7
This is a good step but there is one more step that can be taken - Shell needs one more permit jwirr Aug 2015 #8
That would be great, and I have a feeling he might do it. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #14
I hope so. jwirr Aug 2015 #17
Shell started Arctic drilling last Thursday Divernan Aug 2015 #15
Crossing fingers..... daleanime Aug 2015 #12
Don't worry folks, Scott Walker will repeal this on DAY ONE of his presidency, Still In Wisconsin Aug 2015 #16
Same guy who opened the arctic to drilling, right? polichick Aug 2015 #18
while this is excellent news restorefreedom Aug 2015 #19
This chernabog Aug 2015 #33
The dental corps DustyJoe Aug 2015 #34
Climate change is all well and good bucolic_frolic Aug 2015 #20
"dental mercury amalgam" Botany Aug 2015 #21
Are you suggesting that mercury amalgams are NOT used in dentistry? brett_jv Aug 2015 #25
Really bucolic_frolic Aug 2015 #27
I think a lab can test for mercury in your system. Have you had any tests? Sunlei Aug 2015 #31
Thanks bucolic_frolic Aug 2015 #32
Go Barry! spiderpig Aug 2015 #23
I'm sure the fifth columnist of the M$M are already sharpening their pencils. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2015 #24
Raising meat is responsible for >50% of greenhouse gases. Encouraging people to eat less would JudyM Aug 2015 #28
Kicked and recommended for a good step but more needs to be done. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #29
Whats best about tougher carbon standards is, becomes much harder for Corps.to get a permit. Sunlei Aug 2015 #30
We like Lame Duck Obama flamingdem Aug 2015 #35
maybe china will stop building Marblehead Aug 2015 #36

Botany

(70,594 posts)
6. The man is one of the best Presidents ever
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 10:32 AM
Aug 2015

Deal w/Iran to stop a war and Iran from getting nuclear weapons

Opening up diplomatic relationships w/Cuba

diplomacy w/Vietnam

China no coal after 2000

protection of Bristol Bay Alaska

Going to Africa, Kenya to be specific and talking about a 3rd term ... poking the right wing w/a stick

GNP in negative #s w/the economy in collapse in 2009 to how things are going now

pushing for help for ebola victims and pushing for an ebola vaccine

out of two unneeded wars.

Our newest national monuments include:

Rio Grande del Norte National Monument, New Mexico
San Juan Islands National Monument,
Washington State Harriet Tubman National Monument,
Maryland Charles Young Buffalo Soldiers National Monument,
Ohio Delaware Historic Sites, Delaware -

See more at: http://wilderness.org/article/win-wildlands-president-obama-designates-five-new-national-monuments#sthash.pP4TjqGW.dpuf

Affordable Care Act

Killing bin Laden

Protections for honeybees, monarchs, & native pollinators

Sec. Ernie Moniz

and so much more




Botany

(70,594 posts)
11. And he and his adminstration did all that even w/republicans who met on the night of ....
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:26 AM
Aug 2015

... his innuguration in 2009 and promised to block every single thing that the President
wanted to get done even if it hurt the American people. If we really had a "liberal media*"
then the repugs wouldn't even have a sniff of winning any election ever again.



* and clean elections too.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
13. Kind of hard to just say "the Navy". They're not really ONE source
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:40 AM
Aug 2015

And there are thousands of parts that consist of "the navy".

farmbo

(3,122 posts)
26. Actually, the USN is a leader in CO2 reduction
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 04:41 PM
Aug 2015

They have powered up the "Great Green Fleet" and are in the market now for 300 MM gallons of renewable biofuels- more than any other Service Branch.

They understand the cost of defending the world's shipping lanes for Big Petro and are weaning themselves off with renewables.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. This is a good step but there is one more step that can be taken - Shell needs one more permit
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 10:51 AM
Aug 2015

to drill in the Artic - he can refuse to permit them. We do not need more oil - we need change.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
15. Shell started Arctic drilling last Thursday
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 12:24 PM
Aug 2015

Barring the Fennica's sinking on its 2,000 mile trip from Portland, OR to Dutch Harbor, Alaska on through the Bering Strait to the Chukchi Sea drilling site, there is no stopping Shell's drilling this summer. But, based on Shell's past and very costly misadventures in the Arctic the last several years, if there is some way to fuck it up, Shell will find it.

Shell’s exploratory drilling begins in the Chukchi Sea
By John Ryan, Friday, July 31 2015
Arctic drilling is under way.(sub headline)

Shell Oil confirmed Thursday night that its Polar Pioneer rig sent a 20-foot-wide drill bit spinning into the floor of the Chukchi Sea about 5 p.m. Alaska time. Shell has begun drilling a 35-foot-deep pit into the sea floor for housing a well-blowout preventer.

"It’s drilled to allow what’s called a blowout preventer to sit beneath the sea floor," Shell's Megan Baldino said of the pit known as a mud-line cellar. "In the event there’s any sort of ice scour or underwater ice movement, it protects it because it’s sitting in this 20 by 35 foot excavation.”

Shell can only begin drilling into oil-bearing layers, much deepter beneath the sea floor, after the Fennica arrives at the drill site in the Chukchi Sea.

Interior Department officials said last week they expect to approve the deeper drilling quickly once the Fennica has returned to the Arctic.

RE Shell's earlier fuckups:]

Shell had a disastrous experience in 2012 and undertook no drilling activity in the summers of 2013 and 2014. The oil giant spent more than $2 billion to buy offshore leases in the Chukchi Sea and has invested billions in preparing drilling equipment.

In 2012, however, nothing went right. Advancing ice floes forced a halt to drilling. Shell tried to have its big circular drilling ship, the Kulluk, towed back down to the “lower 48? in the midst of violent December storms in the Gulf of Alaska. The towing operation was in part designed to avoid paying Alaska taxes. (My note: Shell had stopped drilling in September, because that's when the weather turns. They will do that again this year. But this year, they'll move their ships to the lower 48 -probably Port of Seattle - by mid-October, avoiding violent storms at sea. But in 2012, it wasn't until mid December that some genious at Shell figured out they could avoid paying some taxes to Alaska by taking the ship out of port, in the midst of violent storms.) The Kulluk slipped its tow lines, ran aground on New Year’s Eve at Sitkalidak Island near Kodiak Island. It was severely damaged, taken to China and eventually dismantled. “The Wreck of the Kulluk” was the cover story in last Sunday’s New York Times magazine.

Royal Dutch Shell has not given up on the Arctic. Its leases to explore in the Chukchi Sea will begin to expire in 2017. The Chukchi Sea is thought to hold as many as 23 billion barrels of recoverable oil beneath its usually ice-covered surface. Yet, the price of oil is falling, and with it the viability of Arctic drilling.

Shell used Puget Sound ports in preparation for its 2012 exploratory drilling. It spent $400 million building a containment dome as a guard against oil spills. When the dome was taken out of Bellingham into Puget Sound waters, however, a faulty electrical connection caused it to shoot to the surface. A federal inspector’s report, in colorful language, said the dome “breached like a whale” before sinking in 120 feet of water. When towed to the surface, it was “crushed like a beer can.”


http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2015/01/07/will-port-of-seattle-be-repair-center-for-shell-oils-arctic-vessels/
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
16. Don't worry folks, Scott Walker will repeal this on DAY ONE of his presidency,
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 12:29 PM
Aug 2015

right before ending Obamacare and right after ordering a nuclear attack on Teheran.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
19. while this is excellent news
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 12:38 PM
Aug 2015

we can.t keep ignoring the elephant in the room. any comprehensive plan to reduce greenhouse gases is going to have to include addressing one of the major contributors: agriculture, specifically animal agriculture. According to the UN,


"When emissions from land use and land use change are included, the livestock sector accounts for 9 per cent of CO2 deriving from human-related activities, but produces a much larger share of even more harmful greenhouse gases. It generates 65 per cent of human-related nitrous oxide, which has 296 times the Global Warming Potential (GWP) of CO2. Most of this comes from manure.

And it accounts for respectively 37 per cent of all human-induced methane (23 times as warming as CO2), which is largely produced by the digestive system of ruminants, and 64 per cent of ammonia, which contributes significantly to acid rain."

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?newsID=20772#.Vb5xOIFHaK0

i know many of you like meat, but the realities of this can't be ignored if we are serious about saving the planet.


ok, flame away.....

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
25. Are you suggesting that mercury amalgams are NOT used in dentistry?
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:12 PM
Aug 2015

As that would certainly seem to be your insinuation.

And if so, you'd be wrong, as they most definitely are (and have been for a very long time).

And it IS thought by MANY reputable scientists to potentially be harmful. Doesn't take much Hg in the body for it to start messing with ... well, bodily ... functions.

bucolic_frolic

(43,342 posts)
27. Really
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 06:17 PM
Aug 2015

It ain't potential. It is. As long as excreted in urine and feces, things are fine.
Overload and the problems begin.

For those who have suffered with it, whose lives have been impacted, the countless
books written about it, to have such mockery is an abomination.

Here is but one very active Yahoo Group:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/frequent-dose-chelation/info

My old (20+ years) amalgams turned dark and one was brownish. The pain was
daily for about 7 years, the brain fog longer.

I hope such sadistic people get the disease - maybe they'd like to ingest a few
to test their resilience.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
31. I think a lab can test for mercury in your system. Have you had any tests?
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 08:05 PM
Aug 2015

I feel bad for anyone who has pain for 7 years from teeth? I think if I was you, I'd have the teeth pulled to remove the source of pain.

bucolic_frolic

(43,342 posts)
32. Thanks
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 09:04 PM
Aug 2015

It's 85% cleared up now, though exercise or a mercury laden fish can still
cause nerve pain. Take a mercury removal medication and the pain goes in
15 minutes. Painkillers make the pain worse!!

Pain was not in teeth so much it was in nerves and nerve linings. Congregates
in fatty tissue. Couldn't lose weight, could not sweat.

Remove amalgams and detox. Detox forever.

Obama adminsitration made the primary mercury removal medication a prescription now.

Have to import it. Used to be OTC.

Thanks Obama. You've been a mixed blessing at best.

JudyM

(29,292 posts)
28. Raising meat is responsible for >50% of greenhouse gases. Encouraging people to eat less would
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 07:26 PM
Aug 2015

be an enormous help, but nothing is ever said about that...

Of course whatever he does to help is worthwhile, just would be great to leet people know something they could do themselves to help with climate change, in addition to using less fossil fuel.

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