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brooklynite

(94,588 posts)
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 09:32 AM Aug 2015

Hillary Clinton Hits Jeb Bush First, and Hard, in Speech on Race

Source: New York Times

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Jeb Bush and his aides had envisioned a big, inclusive, high-minded speech about race on Friday in his home state of Florida, a chance to bring his message of colorblind opportunity to a prestigious group of African-American leaders.

In a rare gesture of bipartisanship, Mr. Bush even planned to warmly quote President Obama, usually the object of his derision.

Then Hillary Rodham Clinton stomped all over those plans.

In a biting surprise attack, delivered as Mr. Bush, the former Florida governor, waited backstage here at the annual convention of the National Urban League, Mrs. Clinton portrayed him as a hypocrite who had set back the cause of black Americans.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/01/us/politics/hillary-clinton-hits-jeb-bush-first-and-hard-in-speech-on-race.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

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Hillary Clinton Hits Jeb Bush First, and Hard, in Speech on Race (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2015 OP
She called it like it is mcar Aug 2015 #1
Apparently, they didn't take it well... brooklynite Aug 2015 #2
Poor babies mcar Aug 2015 #7
And let us never forget his brother the "Compassionate Conservative" groundloop Aug 2015 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #22
She was great, and between that speech and her letter to the NYT, she showed how tough... George II Aug 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #23
very glad to see this. n/t MBS Aug 2015 #4
Me, too.. Gloria Aug 2015 #6
If you recall, the announced Clinton plan... brooklynite Aug 2015 #10
Even more frustrating for her opponent's followers. George II Aug 2015 #24
From POLITICUS: Hillary Clinton Just Destroyed Jeb Bush’s Entire Presidential Campaign In 41 Seconds misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #5
You go gal. riversedge Aug 2015 #40
Go Hillary!!!! n/t cosmicone Aug 2015 #8
She can take him down. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #9
K&R ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #11
Hillary Clinton's attack on Jeb were great Gothmog Aug 2015 #12
Right before the first debate? Won't this just help him.. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #14
So what? He has already avoided the kid's table. Thor_MN Aug 2015 #15
We kinda want a poorly funded clown Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #19
There will be no poorly funded clown in the General Election... Johnyawl Aug 2015 #21
Oh my. Jebie probably heard that Mrs. Clinton speech as he waited 'backstage' Sunlei Aug 2015 #16
Perhaps maybe she should grab a mirror and direct some of her ire toward her husband. Renaissance Man Aug 2015 #17
Duly noted..... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2015 #26
Good. Put Jeb or one of those idiots in the White House AndreaCG Aug 2015 #27
The "lesser of two evils" meme is really tiring. Renaissance Man Aug 2015 #34
This election is not about 2016 OldRedneck Aug 2015 #36
Sitting out the election will help the Republicans win more Sepreme riversedge Aug 2015 #41
oh brother, not this again. Evergreen Emerald Aug 2015 #42
You know who voted for that Clinton crime bill? uberblonde Aug 2015 #39
That Jeb! - whose actions before the 2000 BlueMTexpat Aug 2015 #18
Hey JEB!ster bucolic_frolic Aug 2015 #20
Oh, Heb, poor Heb... Hekate Aug 2015 #25
Wonderful fusilade. I hope Bush enjoyed reaping what he had sowed. The Second Stone Aug 2015 #28
She looks like she's dropping the mike here Xipe Totec Aug 2015 #29
If Mr. Bush has his feelings hurt over defending his record and positions, which is apparently the The Second Stone Aug 2015 #30
"uncivil and uncalled for" IcyPeas Aug 2015 #31
". . . uncivil and uncalledfor . . . " OldRedneck Aug 2015 #37
Christ, she shit in his liver-lipped mouth. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #32
The event / speeches show some real positives for HRC GitRDun Aug 2015 #33
TBH i don't think this is really going to hurt Bush. Calista241 Aug 2015 #35
Her camp have a mole? joshcryer Aug 2015 #38

brooklynite

(94,588 posts)
2. Apparently, they didn't take it well...
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 09:44 AM
Aug 2015

Tim Miller (Bush Communications Director):

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@Timodc
Clintonesque move to pass over chance to unite in favor of a false cheap shot. When you have no record of accomplishment to point to....

mcar

(42,334 posts)
7. Poor babies
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 10:35 AM
Aug 2015

They are so into being united, aren't they? Never a negative word about HRC from their pure lips.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
13. And let us never forget his brother the "Compassionate Conservative"
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 11:02 AM
Aug 2015

If nothing else the Bush's are good at deluding themselves along with gullible voters. Their lies need to be put front and center at every chance.

Response to mcar (Reply #1)

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. She was great, and between that speech and her letter to the NYT, she showed how tough...
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 09:49 AM
Aug 2015

...she's going to be during the general election campaign.

Response to George II (Reply #3)

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
6. Me, too..
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 10:17 AM
Aug 2015

Glad we seem to be moving out of listening mode into action mode and going after the "phony uniters."

brooklynite

(94,588 posts)
10. If you recall, the announced Clinton plan...
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 10:49 AM
Aug 2015

...was to role out policy positions during the summer, and hit the campaign trail in the Fall. She's studiously sticking to the plan, however frustrating it's been for her supporters and the press.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
5. From POLITICUS: Hillary Clinton Just Destroyed Jeb Bush’s Entire Presidential Campaign In 41 Seconds
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 10:05 AM
Aug 2015
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/31/hillary-clinton-destroyed-jeb-bushs-entire-presidential-campaign-41-seconds.html


" I don’t think you can credibly say that everyone has a “right to rise” and then say you’re for phasing out Medicare or for repealing Obamacare. People can’t rise if they can’t afford health care. They can’t rise if the minimum wage is too low to live on. They can’t rise if their governor makes it harder for them to get a college education. And you cannot seriously talk about the right to rise and support laws that deny the right to vote."



THIS is why I support Hillary Clinton. No candidate can serve a backhand to the good old boys like Hillary.

Well done Madam President.

EQUAL RIGHTS are HUMAN RIGHTS
Hillary Clinton
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
14. Right before the first debate? Won't this just help him..
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 11:32 AM
Aug 2015

..among (R) primary voters?

I am all in favor of the message, but I seriously question the timing.



 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
15. So what? He has already avoided the kid's table.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 11:46 AM
Aug 2015

The biggest unknown at this point is the last clown standing. Who cares about the clown selection process?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
19. We kinda want a poorly funded clown
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:38 PM
Aug 2015

JEB is pulling down all the cash.

He would be harder to beat than most, if not all, of the others.


Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
21. There will be no poorly funded clown in the General Election...
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:17 PM
Aug 2015

If the nominee isn't Jeb, it'll be Scott Walker and he's buried deep in the Koch's back pocket. The Koch's have committed to spending as much on getting the republican nominee elected as the republican party will. They don't care who it is as long as it's not HRC. Or Bernie. Or any "D".


Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. Oh my. Jebie probably heard that Mrs. Clinton speech as he waited 'backstage'
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 12:24 PM
Aug 2015

Republicans need Donald Trump, he doesn't 'wait back stage'

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
17. Perhaps maybe she should grab a mirror and direct some of her ire toward her husband.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:18 PM
Aug 2015

This speech is interesting, coming from someone who supported her husband's Three Strikes and tougher sentencing laws in the 90's. She won't be getting my vote in the primaries. She makes it past the primaries, and I will be sitting out the general election.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
27. Good. Put Jeb or one of those idiots in the White House
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 07:32 PM
Aug 2015

That'll really help ordinary people. Renaissance Man? Ha!

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
34. The "lesser of two evils" meme is really tiring.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 10:53 PM
Aug 2015

As a black male, threatening the presence of a Republican president in the White House is as meaningful as tits on a boar. It may be hard to look at her "tough on crime" record and her support for her husband's three strikes and tougher sentencing laws, but it's out there.

I'm sitting out if she gets the nomination. Period.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
36. This election is not about 2016
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 11:40 PM
Aug 2015

Whoever wins the White House in 2016 will shape the federal judiciary, including the Supreme Court, for the next 30 - 40 years. THAT is why we cannot have a Republican in the White House, no matter how much you may dislike Ms. Clinton.

If a Republican wins the White House, the entire 20th Century will be repealed, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- they will finish gutting the Voting Rights Act -- Social Security will be handed over to Wall Street -- Medicare will be given to the private insurance companies -- we'll be in a permanent state of war -- renewable energy will be shoved aside -- middle- and low-income families will pay all the taxes and get none of the benefits.

You may be a black male but I'm an old white Southerner who witnessed the aftermath of the lynching of a young black man who worked for my grandfather in Louisiana, 1955. As a college student in Alabama in the mid-1960's, I marched in Montgomery, Alabama, behind MLK and shook hands with Rosa Parks. I suspect you are a good bit younger than my 71 years and you didn't live through those days -- are you ready to return to those days ????? -- because that's where a Republican House-Senate-White House will take us.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
41. Sitting out the election will help the Republicans win more Sepreme
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:25 AM
Aug 2015

judges. I am looking to the big issues that will ultimately affect all of us. I hope you will too.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
42. oh brother, not this again.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:25 AM
Aug 2015

There are differences. Look. It would be disastrous for our country to go back to the policies of GW.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
18. That Jeb! - whose actions before the 2000
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:25 PM
Aug 2015

election literally disenfranchised as many minority voters in Florida as possible and whose actions throughout the whole 2000 election recount process were outrageous - even dared to try to state how "good" he is on race issues is literally flabbergasting.

Good for Hillary! Sock it to the Big Fraud!

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
20. Hey JEB!ster
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:56 PM
Aug 2015

She ain't your grandmother's Hillary Clinton anymore

She's learned from Obama, the master campaigner, who sets the tone,
pace, timing, agenda, direction of the debate

Obama's campaign was always 3 days ahead, seeding issues, responding
to the opposition in a few hours, deflecting attacks before they gained
momentum

The Democrat Party has grown up and grown a pair

I don't like that they have to be this way, but it's not as civil an occupation
as it once was

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
28. Wonderful fusilade. I hope Bush enjoyed reaping what he had sowed.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 07:38 PM
Aug 2015

Now let's see the other contenders pile on this turd of a Republican candidate. Let's make it bipartisan.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
30. If Mr. Bush has his feelings hurt over defending his record and positions, which is apparently the
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 08:51 PM
Aug 2015

case, then he has no business being in politics.

IcyPeas

(21,884 posts)
31. "uncivil and uncalled for"
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 09:02 PM
Aug 2015

yeah, republicans would NEVER say anything uncivil and uncalled for, would they?........... Pleeze!! tut-tut-tut


Mr. Bush’s aides, however, could barely hide their disgust over Mrs. Clinton’s remarks, which they spoke of, bitterly, as uncivil and uncalled-for.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
33. The event / speeches show some real positives for HRC
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 09:45 PM
Aug 2015

Great strategy hitting Bush on his "right to rise" theme.

More interesting feedback for the Sanders campaign. While I have no doubt his heart is in the right place, he seems to have a tin ear when it comes to understanding how he sounds to minority groups.

Thanks, good post!

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
35. TBH i don't think this is really going to hurt Bush.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 10:59 PM
Aug 2015

I mean, how many black people are going to vote for him anyway?

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