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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:58 PM Jul 2015

Obama administration to allow prisoners access to college grants

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S prisoners will soon be eligible for federal grants to take college courses online, a Justice Department official said on Tuesday.

The Justice Department and the Department of Education will announce on Friday a limited pilot program for incarcerated Americans to apply for federal Pell grants.

The program builds on efforts from the White House to provide pathways out of prison by reducing sentences and giving second chances to those who have served time.

Obama recently commuted the sentences of 46 prisoners and became the first sitting president to visit a federal prison when he traveled to El Reno, Oklahoma.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-allow-prisoners-access-college-grants-221609212.html

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Obama administration to allow prisoners access to college grants (Original Post) Little Tich Jul 2015 OP
The only downside is money going to for-profit schools Sienna86 Jul 2015 #1
If they do it the way I've seen it done in the past it will be with community colleges davidpdx Jul 2015 #3
I know for a fact that prisoners use to be able to do this davidpdx Jul 2015 #2
It was cut by a law for which Bernie Sanders voted in 1994 Freddie Stubbs Jul 2015 #4
"It was cut by a law for which Bernie Sanders voted in 1994" Cha Jul 2015 #5
I disagree with Sanders vote davidpdx Jul 2015 #9
I hope this pilot program extends to cover ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #6
Been there, done that NotHardly Jul 2015 #7
This is restoring a program that used to exist. Good on Obama. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #8
Good job, Mr President TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #10
Hopefully qwlauren35 Jul 2015 #11

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
3. If they do it the way I've seen it done in the past it will be with community colleges
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 07:12 AM
Jul 2015

If there is anything in there about using a private college I say fuck it.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
2. I know for a fact that prisoners use to be able to do this
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 07:10 AM
Jul 2015

When and why it was cut, I'm not sure. Usually the community colleges have programs at the prisons to allow inmates to take classes. That doesn't seem to be as common these days.

I know Oregon has passed a multitude of ballot measures in the 90's and 00's that has pretty much sunk most forms of rehabilitation. It surprises me how regressive the policies on rehabilitation of my state became in such a short amount of time.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
4. It was cut by a law for which Bernie Sanders voted in 1994
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 07:36 AM
Jul 2015

The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act specifically prohibited the awarding of Pell Grants to "any individual who is incarcerated in any Federal or State penal institution."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act#Elimination_of_inmate_education

Mr. Sanders voted for this bill:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1994/roll416.xml

Cha

(297,304 posts)
5. "It was cut by a law for which Bernie Sanders voted in 1994"
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jul 2015

The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act specifically prohibited the awarding of Pell Grants to "any individual who is incarcerated in any Federal or State penal institution."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act#Elimination_of_inmate_education

Mr. Sanders voted for this bill:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1994/roll416.xml

Thanks Freddie

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. I disagree with Sanders vote
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 10:09 PM
Jul 2015

But I also disagree with Bill Clinton for signing the law. He bares some responsiblity as well.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. I hope this pilot program extends to cover ...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:00 AM
Jul 2015

the 100,000s of people, specially excluded from PELL because of non-violent drug offense convictions.

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
7. Been there, done that
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jul 2015

This so called Pilot program, college courses for prisoners using Pell grants, was operational in a majority of states for state prisoners in the 1980s until republicans killed it in the late 1990s. The courses were given by Jr colleges, colleges and universities in the facilities and provided a wide range of courses... not online but in class rooms inside the prisons and therefore employed local instructors from accredited real academic institutions. I know, I was an Educational Director for a state that operationalized this until the "get tough" people screwed it up. The results were that inmates received skills enhancements and advancements (English, sociology, math, sciences, etc.) that provided them with abilities to improve their lives after being released. It was very successful but none of that mattered to the "get tough" crowd as facts were never able to persuade them ... then or now.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
11. Hopefully
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jul 2015

this will also extend to felons after completing their jail sentence, who have been blocked as well.

The draconian policies have seriously thwarted ex-cons' efforts to move forward after getting out of jail. Apartment complexes won't rent to them, colleges won't take them, no access to funding, problems getting jobs. Everything encourages them to turn back to crime.

Then "Three Strikes"...

It's a system designed to fill jails and prisons.

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