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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:44 PM Jul 2015

Smoke That Pot Now, Chris Christie Tells Users in States That Allow It

Source: Bloomberg

Residents in U.S. states that have legalized marijuana should toke up while they still can, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie said.

“If you’re getting high in Colorado today, enjoy it,” Christie, a Republican campaigning for the 2016 presidential nomination, said Tuesday during a town-hall meeting at the Salt Hill Pub in Newport, New Hampshire. “As of January 2017, I will enforce the federal laws.”

At a time when a majority of Americans say recreational pot use should be legal, and four states have already made it so, Christie remains opposed. The former federal prosecutor said Democratic President Barack Obama has selectively chosen which laws to enforce.

“If you're getting high in Colorado today, enjoy it.”


Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-28/smoke-that-pot-now-christie-tells-users-in-states-that-allow-it

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Smoke That Pot Now, Chris Christie Tells Users in States That Allow It (Original Post) onehandle Jul 2015 OP
What a jerk OldHippieChick Jul 2015 #1
he just went from clown to dangerous clown uhnope Jul 2015 #65
Big government telling folks what to do? RobertEarl Jul 2015 #2
I believe in jury nullification bluestateguy Jul 2015 #3
But will you commit perjury to get on that jury? Angleae Jul 2015 #42
absolutely! most people are unaware of jury nullification and some even believe it's illegal. n/t wildbilln864 Jul 2015 #49
Guess who's bucking for the prison-system and alcohol bucks? C Moon Jul 2015 #4
The entire bucolic_frolic Jul 2015 #5
Oooooh! NJCher Jul 2015 #11
But bucolic_frolic Jul 2015 #22
The people I know who are like that... Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #40
I'll say one thing tho, medical MJ is fantastic. Iliyah Jul 2015 #6
K&R! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #55
I just watched John Oliver's show SCVDem Jul 2015 #7
Yep, Christie is a fossilized dinosaur, a relic of the past, that brought us much of the mess we RKP5637 Jul 2015 #54
Think you're going to win Colorado with that attitude? TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #8
well... NJCher Jul 2015 #12
That's the way to hustle votes, huh? George II Jul 2015 #9
he has one rule on eating NJCher Jul 2015 #18
He forgot the punchline Roy Rolling Jul 2015 #10
He's probably already cut a deal NJCher Jul 2015 #16
I read some private citizens in Co. are using the federal rico? law with success to force sale of Sunlei Jul 2015 #13
Tone deaf ass really does not want to be POTUS, apparently. MADem Jul 2015 #14
Bucking the tide of history, when you're already running near dead-last 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #15
Apparently he really doesn't want to be President. drm604 Jul 2015 #17
I'm beginning to think he's really in it for the PAC money rocktivity Jul 2015 #19
You had better enjoy your freedom, Chris. roamer65 Jul 2015 #20
+1 YOUR freedom Chris. FailureToCommunicate Jul 2015 #26
dinasour Backwoodsrider Jul 2015 #21
I often think fools like Christie just don't get it that the rest of us (R, D, and I) talk and RKP5637 Jul 2015 #56
That'll win him some votes fer sure. Well, and lose millions, but still. A man of principle. byronius Jul 2015 #23
Enjoy losing elections, loser daleo Jul 2015 #24
Kitchen Wars - Little stout teapot threatening mild pot packman Jul 2015 #25
Ah, fuck you Christie, you piece of shit. blackspade Jul 2015 #27
Christie enforcing Federal laws in 2017? bluedigger Jul 2015 #28
So has paranoia from smoking eased now or is it really an actual effect regardless? nt Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #36
I've never experienced it. bluedigger Jul 2015 #45
I've always felt that any paranoia was from it being illegal and legalization would end it. Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #53
It's not "paranoia" when the threat of arrest is real. bluedigger Jul 2015 #58
Great point! And I have been seriously considering a move for some health issues that cannabis Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #60
It depends on the strain you choose if you're susceptible to it maxsolomon Jul 2015 #62
He cracks me up thinking he stands any chance of becoming POTUS. I'm in a state that Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #64
People making the most noise usually have something to hide. Gregorian Jul 2015 #29
Here are all the major candidates positions on drugs Reter Jul 2015 #30
Not sure I agree with your analysis. bluedigger Jul 2015 #46
How disingenuous can you be? Thor_MN Jul 2015 #52
Speaking of disingenuous, I also said there was little daylight between their positions. bluedigger Jul 2015 #59
I saw that quote, it highliites your agenda Thor_MN Jul 2015 #68
I wouldn't call that "disingenuous" LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #67
You missed my point. Thor_MN Jul 2015 #70
Fair enough LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #74
Because making it illegal was the only thing keeping people from smoking pot before. killbotfactory Jul 2015 #31
What an idiot SmittynMo Jul 2015 #32
glad to know his priorities are in order. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #33
Because nobody ever smoked pot when it was illegal MiniMe Jul 2015 #34
States' rights, anybody? n/t MrModerate Jul 2015 #35
Someone needs to take him to task for the fact that is known to drink alcohol a good bit. phleshdef Jul 2015 #37
Ma che cafone alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #38
A losing platform from a loser. Solly Mack Jul 2015 #39
Chris Crusty = Captain Buzzkill Blue Owl Jul 2015 #41
Rip van crispy? beevul Jul 2015 #43
Not from his couch, holding a bucket of chicken, watching a Democrat get sworn in he won't... tomm2thumbs Jul 2015 #44
Seriously. elias49 Jul 2015 #47
He just can't be that stupid or contrary/tone-deaf, can he? jomin41 Jul 2015 #48
what a sanctimonious jerk. nt Javaman Jul 2015 #50
This guy Christie is such a damn fool! Words pale to describe him! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #51
said the man who seems to have a lifelong case of the munchies nt HFRN Jul 2015 #57
Christie: "a chicken in every pot and a federal agent in every driveway Taitertots Jul 2015 #61
a bunch of orange cones and a couple of construction workers in front of each dispensary is my guess uncle ray Jul 2015 #75
The cat's out of the bag, big guy. maxsolomon Jul 2015 #63
Headline: CHRIS CHRISTIE ENCOURAGES LAW-BREAKING brooklynite Jul 2015 #66
OK, Chris, I'll stock up. Beauregard Jul 2015 #69
He's toast. Even republicans partake. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #71
WTF?!?! My God I hope he just gets smeared. Who does he think he is?!? N/T nirvana555 Jul 2015 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author nirvana555 Jul 2015 #73
Still mad that the cool kids in school wouldnt let him smoke with them. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #76
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
65. he just went from clown to dangerous clown
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:11 PM
Jul 2015

and I don't even smoke pot. It's the mass incarceration issue

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. Big government telling folks what to do?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:49 PM
Jul 2015

How do they get away with claiming they want small government when they really want government all up in our business?

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. I believe in jury nullification
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:50 PM
Jul 2015

And I will never, if seated on a jury, convict anyone on trial for a non-violent drug offense.

Angleae

(4,487 posts)
42. But will you commit perjury to get on that jury?
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:44 AM
Jul 2015

One of the questions the prosecutors will throw at you will be about your belief in enforcing drug laws.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
5. The entire
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:51 PM
Jul 2015

GOP field seem oblivious to the unpopularity of their dour, reactionary,
controlling, austere, punishing mindset.

NJCher

(35,685 posts)
11. Oooooh!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:15 PM
Jul 2015

Good descriptive writing. Yes, that's them, all right!

But I should have guessed you're a wordsmith, based on your user name.

Signed,

English teacher,



Cher

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
40. The people I know who are like that...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:05 AM
Jul 2015

...Swear up and down they're actually the majority and are somehow being silenced by the "librul" media.

Tone-deaf is too kind. Crazy bastards is more accurate.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. I'll say one thing tho, medical MJ is fantastic.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:52 PM
Jul 2015

Grandpa a Vietnam Veteran who recently had "3" back surgeries and is taking morphine 25mg and Percocet 10 mg and still have much pain is now taking medical mj.

His spirits is up.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
54. Yep, Christie is a fossilized dinosaur, a relic of the past, that brought us much of the mess we
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jul 2015

have today.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
8. Think you're going to win Colorado with that attitude?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:59 PM
Jul 2015

Even people who don't like pot legalization wouldn't tolerate some East Coast loudmouth telling them what to do. Ask Michael Bloomberg how it worked out when he tried to fund a push for gun control in Colorado.

NJCher

(35,685 posts)
12. well...
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:19 PM
Jul 2015

I'm a New Jersey resident and I prefer "East Coast blowhard," but let's not quibble.

Earth to Christie: Marijuana is way more popular than you will ever be.


Cher


NJCher

(35,685 posts)
18. he has one rule on eating
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jul 2015

It's on the taxpayer's dime.

Remember that $600,000 he doesn't have to account for? It was all food.


Cher

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
10. He forgot the punchline
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:04 PM
Jul 2015

"When I'm president".

I guess he's trying to distinguish himself as the biggest asshole within a field of the biggest losers in Republican political history.

Once again, the party of limited government really just wants a bigger government to put more people they don't like in jail.

NJCher

(35,685 posts)
16. He's probably already cut a deal
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:23 PM
Jul 2015

with the prison industry. You give me $X donations and I'll give you X number of new prisoners.

He's such a disgusting creep. Remember when he vetoed the measure that would have made it possible for pigs to be raised in free-range conditions instead of little crates? Sick bastard. I loathe him like I loathed bush.


Cher

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. I read some private citizens in Co. are using the federal rico? law with success to force sale of
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:20 PM
Jul 2015

Co. pot businesses assets and the courts pay them triple 'settlement'?


here on google search you can see all the lawyers listed for rico law defense and to hire for offense.
I believe people already go after the businesses once they get several million to take away.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=rico+law+in+colorado+springs

I believe if republicans could do it, they would jail thousands of people for state legal MJ.

jail to punish then deport 5-10 million persons without papers, even if they have lived here for decades or almost. all their life.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. Tone deaf ass really does not want to be POTUS, apparently.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:21 PM
Jul 2015

Hell, I know Republicans who want to smoke it and profit off it. He just shot himself in the foot!

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
15. Bucking the tide of history, when you're already running near dead-last
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:21 PM
Jul 2015

among 16 candidates, is a sure-fire strategy for victory.

Please proceed Gov. Christie.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
17. Apparently he really doesn't want to be President.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jul 2015

Does he really believe this will gain him more votes than it loses?

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
19. I'm beginning to think he's really in it for the PAC money
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:31 PM
Jul 2015

what happens to it when a presidential campaign ends?


rocktivity

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
21. dinasour
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jul 2015

I am a paraplegic in Oregon with a medical card and a much less painful life now that I can legally smoke herb. I hope him and Trump keep blowing their horns showing even the most loyal republican the party is either going to die or grow as human awareness expands exponentially, despite their backward attitudes.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
56. I often think fools like Christie just don't get it that the rest of us (R, D, and I) talk and
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:13 AM
Jul 2015

communicate far more than in the past thanks to the communications of today. Christie and similar jerks get wider exposure now and, more and more people are seeing them for the fools they are. They are obsolete, relics of the past. The world is moving forward as these fools cling to the historic notions that never worked in the past.

I'm pleased to hear that the herb is helping you!

byronius

(7,395 posts)
23. That'll win him some votes fer sure. Well, and lose millions, but still. A man of principle.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:42 PM
Jul 2015

The Trump Effect continues to pay dividends -- over the edge the GOP goes.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
28. Christie enforcing Federal laws in 2017?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:17 PM
Jul 2015

There isn't enough pot in Colorado to make me that paranoid .

And there is a LOT of pot here.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
53. I've always felt that any paranoia was from it being illegal and legalization would end it.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jul 2015

Hope before my time is done that I get to find out!

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
60. Great point! And I have been seriously considering a move for some health issues that cannabis
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jul 2015

can help.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
62. It depends on the strain you choose if you're susceptible to it
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jul 2015

I am. I studiously avoid Sativas.

This is the kind of stuff you can learn IF CHRIS CHRISTIE ISN'T PRESIDENT.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
64. He cracks me up thinking he stands any chance of becoming POTUS. I'm in a state that
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jul 2015

you just take whatever you can find, usually what I consider overpriced. $100 a 1/4! Guess I was spoiled in the '70/'80s...

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
29. People making the most noise usually have something to hide.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:17 PM
Jul 2015

Keyboard Confucius says so.

PS Can we get on with things that make a decent society function properly now?

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
46. Not sure I agree with your analysis.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 06:16 AM
Jul 2015

Not sure that your source is up to date.

HRC's position seems to be, well, she'll let us know once she's elected...

Rand Paul (oh, Fuck Rand Paul!) supports continued criminalization of recreational pot, reduced sentencing.

Trump never used anything, including alcohol. But he'll fire YOU for it.

Sanders is open minded on it - not a lot of daylight between he and Hillary, but his voting record and general position on incarceration is encouraging. From a Time Magazine interview in 2014:

Q. Marijuana legalization in Vermont and indeed in the country is a trend. What do you make of it?

It is a trend, but I think it has a lot of political support from young people especially. It probably will continue to move forward. Colorado led the way. Other states I expect will follow. I have supported the increased use of marijuana for medical purposes, and I can tell you when I was Mayor of the City of Burlington, which includes the University of Vermont, I don’t recall that anybody was arrested for marijuana use. And I have real concerns about implications of the war on drugs that has. We have been engaged in for decades now with a huge cost and the destruction of a whole lot of lives of people who were never involved in any violent activities.

In Vermont right now we’re dealing with a very serious problem with heroin use and use of prescription drugs. We lost over 50 people as a result of overdoses of prescription drugs and heroin. So I am concerned about the overuse of dangerous drugs. And we’ll see what’s going to happen, but I think that debate will take place in Vermont.

Q. So you don’t support the recreational legalization of marijuana in Vermont?

I’m going to look at the issue. It’s not that I support it or don’t support it. To me it is not one of the major issues facing this country. I’ll look at it. I think it has a lot of support and I’ll be talking to young people and others about the issues. But there are two sides to a story.

Q. Have you ever smoked pot?

A couple of times when I was young.
http://time.com/13328/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-2016/
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
52. How disingenuous can you be?
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:03 AM
Jul 2015

BD: "HRC's position seems to be, well, she'll let us know once she's elected..."

BS: "I’m going to look at the issue. It’s not that I support it or don’t support it. To me it is not one of the major issues facing this country. I’ll look at it."

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
59. Speaking of disingenuous, I also said there was little daylight between their positions.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jul 2015

You forgot to quote that, I guess - it must not have fit your paradigm. I just know which one has been more consistent, generally, and which one I trust.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
68. I saw that quote, it highliites your agenda
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jul 2015

There isn't much difference in their published opinions, yet you choose to attack one of them. I'm not yet supporting either and will vote for the nominee.
If you can't see the hypocrisy in your post, we are not going to find a common ground.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
67. I wouldn't call that "disingenuous"
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:53 PM
Jul 2015

We can't forget they are politicians. I can forgive, to a point, non-commitment to such a black and white question (recreational legality), especially so far from the election. As we saw with gay marriage, things can shift rapidly with sudden mass approval when a tipping point is reached (I know there is a word for that).

The Clintons, and even Obama, went on record opposing gay marriage...before they were for gay marriage. But I can accept the reality that even IF their inner belief was marriage equality, they had to reflect the majority of Americans and probably most Democrats in swing states, in order to get to a position to help pave the way for it to happen years later. Its a little sleazy, but politics sometimes is.

That's why Christie's ultimatum is not only against the tide, but stupidly politically corners him so far from any hope of taking office.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
70. You missed my point.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:47 PM
Jul 2015

The other poster attempted to draw a distinction between two virtually identical positions. It is disingenuous to claim that one is a negative for one candidate and the other is a plus, when basically both candidates have said they don't have a position.
When they do come out with a position, we can compare and contrast. Until they do, attempting to distinguish is mindless propaganda. I like Sanders' statements, but am starting to dislike the mindless Bernie-bots.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
74. Fair enough
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 06:09 PM
Jul 2015

I thought you were applying the word "disingenuous" to one or both of the two candidates, but it was to another poster.

I agree they are both equally evasive.

Here in Canada we are gearing up for our own federal election any day now. The Liberal Party leader has already proclaimed he would legalize pot nationally if he was elected. But that is still a risky move, even up here in Canada.

There you have a much more rabid right wing media machine that will pounce on any position they deem they could turn into a wedge issue, so I don't blame any candidate's caution in this matter.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
31. Because making it illegal was the only thing keeping people from smoking pot before.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:21 PM
Jul 2015

and totally isn't a lame excuse for law enforcement to harass minorities.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
32. What an idiot
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:28 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Now wait, it appears that the country wants to go in the opposite direction there, Chris. At this point in time, I firmly believe we will see it legal in all 50 within the next 5-10 years. And even with all this information, and the fact that its really what the people want, another Republicant wants to go against the grain, and ignore "The people" once again. And they wonder why they can't win. Stupidity at it finest.

I think Christy needs to roll one up, and chill out.

Then have a bucket of chicken 2 hours later.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
43. Rip van crispy?
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:33 AM
Jul 2015

Were you asleep when other states besides CO legalized it?

A novel strategy, that one, giving multiple states away with one sentence.

Good job.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
44. Not from his couch, holding a bucket of chicken, watching a Democrat get sworn in he won't...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:33 AM
Jul 2015

Poor thang. Hope he bought extra tums for the heartburn he's going to feel after losing badly in the GOP field across the board.



jomin41

(559 posts)
48. He just can't be that stupid or contrary/tone-deaf, can he?
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:47 AM
Jul 2015

It's got to be MONEY, or some other political consideration. I'll bet he has a wealthy patron with a very narrow world-view. He's going nowhere, appropriately.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
61. Christie: "a chicken in every pot and a federal agent in every driveway
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:48 AM
Jul 2015

How has he proposed to stop millions of legal marijuana users?

uncle ray

(3,156 posts)
75. a bunch of orange cones and a couple of construction workers in front of each dispensary is my guess
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 07:05 PM
Jul 2015

it's a proven plan.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
63. The cat's out of the bag, big guy.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jul 2015

Seriously, he should visit a dispensary in Seattle and WTFU. Grandmothers are in there.

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