OIC condemns Israeli desecration of Al-Aqsa Mosque

[Alameda]

Source: Arab News

JEDDAH: The Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) on Sunday urged the international community, particularly the UN Security Council, to take action against “repeated and dangerous Israeli violations of holy sites.”
In a statement carried by the Saudi Press Agency (SPA), the 56-nation group made the call after violence erupted on Sunday as Israeli security forces attacked Palestinians protesting access by Jews into the compound on an annual day of Jewish mourning.
OIC Secretary-General Iyad bin Ameen Madani denounced the “incursion into and desecration of the blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque by groups of extremist settlers under the protection of the Israeli occupation forces” as “an act of provocation and blatant violation of relevant international resolutions and instruments.”
He said the settlers blocked access to the mosque and “savagely attacked” the worshippers in the mosque's compound.

http://www.arabnews.com/featured/news/781936

wrong link, corrected
also on http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33667453

Read more: Link to source

[Alameda]

3. done and linked

http://www.jewfaq.org/holidayd.htm

[oberliner]

2. To the OIC, allowing Jews access = desecration

They literally believe that allowing a Jewish person to be near the mosque (not even actually inside of it) is an act of provocation.

Even though the area is also religiously significant to Jewish people.

[Joe Chi Minh]

4. The Arabs have got Mecca, Medina and other places, I believe. Jerusalem

is the Jewish holy place. Period.

[BillZBubb]

10. Hogwash.

Jerusalem is also a holy place for Christians. Or maybe in your vast knowledge you forgot about the Crusades?

[oberliner]

13. Are Christians allowed to pray at the Temple Mount?

Do you even know what the Temple Mount is?

[BillZBubb]

15. Have you no sense of shame?

Apparently not, like most Israel apologists.

[oberliner]

18. I don't understand what the question is in reference to

You don't appear to have a lot of information about this topic.

[Mosby]

23. do you deny that the temple mount is holy to Jews?

Why shouldn't Jews and Christians be able to visit the temple mount?

How the fuck is that a provocation?

[Joe Chi Minh]

27. You seem well-named. You can't have a single brain cell. Follow the crowd, eh? Can't go wrong.

Pathetic. All of you.

[leftynyc]

30. Do you think the mere

presence of Jews on the Temple Mount is a provocation worthy of the kind of condemnation they're asking for? Jews and Christians should not be allowed on that piece of land? Talk about having zero shame and you can stuff your Israel apologist crap - you obviously have zero idea what you're talking about.

[Sunlei]

21. we could always use the biblical map from the old testament

[BillZBubb]

9. When it is settlers, it is provocation AND YOU KNOW IT.

Nice try at changing the discussion. Your continued disingenuous apologia for Israeli actions is noted.

[oberliner]

11. Israeli Jews who are not settlers would be welcome to pray there?

Is that what you are suggesting?

[BillZBubb]

14. Still trying to change the issue. Typical apologist canard.

The issue here is the violence the settlers caused.

[oberliner]

17. How did the settlers cause violence?

Do you even know what happened? This particular article is a little short on the specifics.

Maybe try this one:

Dozens of Palestinians clash with Israel Police at Temple Mount

After a few months of relative calm at the Temple Mount compound, violence was reported at the Jerusalem site Sunday morning, with dozens of Palestinians youths barricading themselves at the Al Aqsa Mosque and clashing with Israel Police forces sent to the scene.

During the altercation, police eventually stormed the mosque itself. An unknown number of officers were wounded, and three East Jerusalem residents were arrested for allegedly throwing rocks at Border Police.

Jerusalem police said they received information about Arab youths barricading themselves within the mosque overnight Saturday to confront police and prevent visits to the holy site on Tisha B’Av – the Jewish day of remembrance for the destruction of the First and Second Temples.

According to the police, the youths - a number of whom where masked - collected stones, wooden planks, fireworks and firebombs, and even set up makeshift barricades to prevent the mosque's doors from being shut and to allow them to confront the police.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.667832

[cpwm17]

20. You see, it is none of the Israelis' business what the Palestinians do in their Mosque

since their mosque is in f#%&*@g Palestine. It isn't in Israel.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Al-Aqsa+Mosque/@31.7228229,35.1548901,12z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x9d880658c9248aad

[Mosby]

24. your map says Jerusalem not Palestine

Because there is no country of Palestine.

[oberliner]

29. You're right

But are you saying you believe The Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem is in Palestine?

If that is the case then the Palestinians ought to ensure that Jews are allowed to visit the holy sites that are located therein, such as the Temple Mount.

Do you believe Israeli Jews should not be allowed to pray at the Western Wall either?

[Joe Chi Minh]

28. The Palestinians are there by the grace and favour of the Israelis. Losing wars

of aggression have consequences for the aggressors. Or hadn't you noticed? You obviously want the Israelis to be the single exception in history - whereby they should act as if they were the losers. Not very bright. The so-called Palestinians (Jordanians, actually), together with their Arab brethren, tried to destroy the Jews and continue to do so. It's their stated policy.

Wake up. Normal, everyday geopolitics is mad and bad enough without fabricating outrages. If there is any outrage it is that people like you have been using them to their immense harm as 'patsies' to assuage your own bile against the Jews. Likewise the Arab nations to restore their honour, after their defeats in their wars against Israel. You have the gall to ask me if I have no shame. You evidently don't now the meaning of the word.

[leftynyc]

31. Very well said

The fucking nerve of some people is a sight to behold on DU.

[cpwm17]

34. To anyone that believes one word of this and thinks this makes any sense

I've got a nice bridge to nowhere I could sell you at a very great price.

[COLGATE4]

40. +1000!

[freshwest]

25. Discrimination based on religion is wrong. Too much of this now. n/t

[Igel]

5. Por cierto.

La pregunta tiene que ser, que te da? Y por que?

Si no te lo ha dado Ala hasta ahora, cuando lo dara?

(Alameda. Ala me da.)

(Meh. Puns are the lowest form of humor. But I'm sure that somebody with the right--which is to say wrong--mindset would find your username a desecration.)

[Throd]

6. Ala bim! Ala bom!

[Alameda]

26. groan....can you get more stupid?

[cosmicone]

7. Yes, no protest or regret by the OIC when

Hindu, Buddhist and other places of worship are destroyed and idols defaced/mutilated.

Look what they did to the Bamiyan buddhas.

[Purveyor]

8. So that makes it OK then? eom

[oberliner]

12. Was anything defaced in this instance?

Can you describe the nature of the desecration?

[BillZBubb]

16. You should be ashamed.

But alas, that is not possible.

[oberliner]

19. Of what?

Can you clarify what you mean? Either here or above where you made a similar comment.

[leftynyc]

32. Not ashamed in the slightest

In fact nothing but disgusted that you apparently don't think Jews belong on the same land as the Western Wall.

[Major Nikon]

33. Results...

On Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

You should be ashamed.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1158325

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Jurors, please look at the personal attacks by BillZBubb all through this thread. This is just one of them.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:25 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: You should have picked a better one
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see anything worth hiding there.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is getting ridiculous. Please DU do something about these! Limit them somehow?
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The back and forth on this subject is almost always hostile from both sides. Have at it. One has to take sides in order to find one side's comments more offensive than the other.

[leftynyc]

35. Don't know why anybody bothered

to alert. His attitude is the same as the majority of DUers on the I/P issue. Thankfully it in no way represents what a majority of Democrats or Americans think. Although it's new that some think Jews don't belong in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem. A stupid position but whatever.

[BillZBubb]

36. No they shouldn't have bothered. It was a stupid alert and an abuse of the jury system.

Nothing I said merited hiding.

As for the rest of your post, it is nonsense. That isn't what is at issue here.

[leftynyc]

37. Spare me the bullshit

Apparently to you and the OIC, the mere presence of Jews on the Temple Mount (on Tisha B'av no less) is a desecration. If you don't already know that's where the Western Wall also is, you have no business trying to discuss this issue. And telling people they have no shame because they think Jews should be allowed to be seen in Jerusalem just makes you look an imbecile. Your behavior on this thread is repulsive but I'm of the mind of letting everyone see you for what you are.

[BillZBubb]

38. More nonsense. You are trying to put words in my mouth that I did not say.

Your behavior on this thread is dishonest and shameful.

[leftynyc]

39. You quite simply

are not worthy of my time. Not even the time it would take to put you on ignore.

[Telcontar]

22. Fuck em

When you amass firebombs and stones and plan to attack worshipers of another faith, you lose all credibility.