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Judi Lynn

(160,588 posts)
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 06:27 PM Jul 2015

250 whales are chased onto beach so villagers can hack them to death

Source: Metro UK

250 whales are chased onto beach so villagers can hack them to death
Amy Willis for Metro.co.uk
Saturday 25 Jul 2015 12:51 pm

These are the horrific scenes after a mass slaughter of 250 whales in the Faroe Islands.



The pods of pilot whales were rounded up by fisherman on motorboats and chased inland to where hundreds of villagers were waiting to hack them to death. Locals can then be seen smiling as they leap into the water in wetsuits armed with knives and harpoons to stab them to death.

The water around the mammals can be seen turning red with the creature’s blood throughout the massacre. Young children can even be seen watching on from the shoreline.

Footage of the hunt in the archipelago was captured by activists from Sea Shepherd, a non-profit organisation committed to preserving marine life. Five activists from Sea Shepherd were arrested while trying to stop the hunt while Ricky Gervais condemned the massacre on Twitter.

The killings on two beaches in Bøur and Tórshavn is part of an annual tradition in the Denmark-owned Faroe Islands called the grindadráp. The tradition dates back hundreds of years.



Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/25/250-whales-are-chased-onto-beach-so-villagers-can-hack-them-to-death-5312162/#ixzz3gwbnrSnc



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How is this different from the Japanese massacres of porpoises? [/center]
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250 whales are chased onto beach so villagers can hack them to death (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2015 OP
This story lacks context. Why do they do this? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #1
They eat them. It's an annual subsistence killing Scootaloo Jul 2015 #3
yep azurnoir Jul 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2015 #7
A "tradition"!?! chervilant Jul 2015 #2
Nobody ate their slaves, wives, or (usually) the dead dogs or cocks. Igel Jul 2015 #16
these animals are highly intelligent restorefreedom Jul 2015 #17
" " " " n/t MBS Jul 2015 #42
Pretty simple chernabog Jul 2015 #23
With that little land, christx30 Jul 2015 #30
They import a lot of their food already chernabog Jul 2015 #38
what you said. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #44
haven't for 30 yrs restorefreedom Jul 2015 #43
ugh Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #4
Sick AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #5
Anybody who eats meat probably shouldn't get too bent about this. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #6
whale meat is and has been a regular part of the diet in the Faroes for centuries azurnoir Jul 2015 #9
KILL one at a time is CENTURIES OLD 'tradition'. motorboats and nets make it a carnage, slaughter Sunlei Jul 2015 #33
THIS^^^^ people needing whales for subsistence should do it the old way wordpix Jul 2015 #46
They would get into boats and heard passing pods into the bay the same way using drums Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #55
I would be interested in where you got this data. Herding megafauna for massive hunts is Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #52
Do hunters still herd bison over cliffs? chernabog Jul 2015 #53
Non traditional methods of hunting by whites and genocide ended that way of life. Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain Jul 2015 #10
this is subsistance hunting.... mike_c Jul 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain Jul 2015 #12
sure super painless restorefreedom Jul 2015 #19
its like some peoples eyes are blind, don't even notice* every baby seal has a terrified mother seal Sunlei Jul 2015 #35
humans are truly restorefreedom Jul 2015 #39
wrong. it is a celebration or carnage restorefreedom Jul 2015 #18
whats quick and merciful about the round-up? sometimes takes days and days. Sunlei Jul 2015 #34
These fucks really don't need to kill these whales chernabog Jul 2015 #13
Are you going to pay to replace this part of their diet? Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #56
They don't need it chernabog Jul 2015 #57
They eat all the meat and they are poor. Where do they get food? In the US there are alternatives Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #58
I'm sure Denmark wouldn't let them starve. chernabog Jul 2015 #59
Great problem solving! Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #60
Well now we know why they detained Sea Shepard.... blackspade Jul 2015 #14
You should be better informed about this practice. Here's a link: Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #15
slavery went on for years too restorefreedom Jul 2015 #20
I guess that explains it IHateTheGOP Jul 2015 #22
That doesn't make it any better. blackspade Jul 2015 #24
So, if mass shooters ate their victims that would make it ok? McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #26
Come quickly from the cosmos intelligent life and finish us off IHateTheGOP Jul 2015 #21
That would be an interesting day. ZombieHorde Jul 2015 #29
And I'd dare say we would finally unite. IHateTheGOP Jul 2015 #50
The irony of wanting more intelligent life to kill us.., Taitertots Jul 2015 #36
That's my point. Turn about is fair play. IHateTheGOP Jul 2015 #51
By this reasoning mass shootings are a proud human tradition to be celebrated. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #25
We do celebrate mass shootings when we label them "war." ZombieHorde Jul 2015 #28
I went hunting when I was kid. ZombieHorde Jul 2015 #27
right. but did you drive 100 deer into corrals using ATVs and 20 helper,when you were a hunting kid? Sunlei Jul 2015 #32
No, but we had a fridge full of food at home. ZombieHorde Jul 2015 #45
dates back hundreds of years. not the motorboat and net use. one whale at a time is tradition & Sunlei Jul 2015 #31
wonder how the folks in india who treasure cows view our cattle industry dembotoz Jul 2015 #37
No shit, these islanders are infinitely less disgusting Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #47
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #40
Yes indeed. MBS Jul 2015 #41
This is ghastly on its face, BUT... SCVDem Jul 2015 #48
Time for DU to play the ethnocentrism game Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #49
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
1. This story lacks context. Why do they do this?
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jul 2015

Is it an exercise in atavistic barbarism?

Are they going to feast on whale meat for the next few months?

I don't know, but killing animals isn't a pretty business. You ought to see a slaughter house.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. They eat them. It's an annual subsistence killing
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 07:05 PM
Jul 2015

The Faroes aren't exactly a greeat palce for livestock - their sheep are more valuable for milk and wool, and they're in the middle of the North Atlantic, so it's not like htye can get meat from Danish markets.

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #1)

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
2. A "tradition"!?!
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jul 2015

Yeah, we used to have a tradition in the United States of owning slaves. We've evolved beyond that travesty (although racism is ubiquitous, and many of us are trapped in a new form of "indentured servitude" to the uber wealthy corporate megalomaniacs).

We used to have a tradition of allowing men to beat their wives, as long as the implement they chose to use was not bigger in diameter than their thumb (hence, "rule of thumb&quot . We have at least acknowledged that men should not beat their wives, and we've codified punishments for such behavior (although said punishments are seldom stringent or deterrent, and relationship violence remains a constant in our society).

We still have dog fights and cock fights, and all manner of disrespectful abuse of animals, so it might strike some of us as hypocritical to berate other cultures for their massacres of sentient creatures...

Our species is the embarrassment of this universe: narcissistic, hedonistic, abusive, and--all too often--willfully ignorant.

Igel

(35,332 posts)
16. Nobody ate their slaves, wives, or (usually) the dead dogs or cocks.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 09:53 PM
Jul 2015

We still, however, think it's great that Native American tribes in the Pac NW have their salmon slaughter season.

And you don't want to know where your meat and fish come from.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
17. these animals are highly intelligent
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:10 PM
Jul 2015

and the method of "slaughter" is exceedingly inhumane. it needs to stop, tradition or not.

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
38. They import a lot of their food already
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:48 AM
Jul 2015

Soooooo, no, they eat what they import.
This isn't the 17th century.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
6. Anybody who eats meat probably shouldn't get too bent about this.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 07:18 PM
Jul 2015

They are harvesting the whale meat.

Where does your meat come from?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. whale meat is and has been a regular part of the diet in the Faroes for centuries
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jul 2015

and as such I can no more condemn them than I could Inuit hunters

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
33. KILL one at a time is CENTURIES OLD 'tradition'. motorboats and nets make it a carnage, slaughter
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jul 2015

they may as well open a factory whale breeding farm, a SeaWorld type breeding farm. with nets on their shoreline.

and then go into a group of terrified whales with steel spears and stab 100 to death at the same time. After they pull out the picks to sell around the world to all the 'Sea Worlds' in many countries. China probably can use more breeder whales in their giant new Sea World 20 mile square complex of hotels.

Oh this is our culture and tradition so its always ok

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
46. THIS^^^^ people needing whales for subsistence should do it the old way
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jul 2015

get out in small boats and harpoon one at a time. Otherwise it's mass slaughter and murder

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
55. They would get into boats and heard passing pods into the bay the same way using drums
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jul 2015

to scare them, if they did it anything like other native groups with similar festivals I am aware of. This type of mass slaughter was just so much safer for substance hunters that it was preferred over th risk of the open ocean.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
52. I would be interested in where you got this data. Herding megafauna for massive hunts is
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jul 2015

far from new. Human hunters have been using tricks like this as far back as the data goes according to my understanding of anthropology. If you would like to suggest that hunters never herded large groups of bison driving them over the cliffs you will need to present some evidence that will both support your novel concept of what constituted traditional hunting behavior and falsify our current understanding.

They may be using motor boats now, but a few hundred years ago they would have used wooden boats with oars and pounded large drums to scare whales, herding them into their bay. If you have some evidence that this is actually a modern invention and that they used to only kill one whale at a time during this festival please present that too.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
54. Non traditional methods of hunting by whites and genocide ended that way of life.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jul 2015

Even calling what white people did hunting is probably wrong since most of the meat was left to rot in the sun.

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
11. this is subsistance hunting....
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 07:45 PM
Jul 2015

Yes, I'd rather they didn't eat cetaceans, and the mercury levels are apparently high enough to recommend strictly limiting whale meat consumption. The bloody water makes a damning image, but it's actually the result of quick, merciful killing-- the spinal lance used to kill within seconds also severs major arteries, draining the circulatory system with a very rapid bleed out. Whales are not bludgeoned or slashed indiscriminately. The hunt is very strictly regulated.

This is what carnivory looks like. Meat is dead animal tissue. A slaughterhouse is no less alarming, frankly. Hungry people are not as squeamish as the well fed.

Response to mike_c (Reply #11)

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
19. sure super painless
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:14 PM
Jul 2015

until they fail to render the animal dead or unconcious and it is still alive when they skin it.

don't even know what the fuss is about

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
35. its like some peoples eyes are blind, don't even notice* every baby seal has a terrified mother seal
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jul 2015
*or care or even care that some humans care and are upset

this is my angry
Its like some people may as well say what they actually feel-- a big fuck you animal lovers, you you fools with empathy.

"you stupid tree huggers we're gonna' let them skin this dog alive, we're gonna' makes the bays run red with 1,000 MOTOR BOAT rounded up dolphins, we're gonna let Japan use giant ships and missle harpoons to get whales for scientific research, because people gotta eat, its culture, its science, its been done for thousands of years!!"

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
39. humans are truly
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jul 2015

the worst thing to happen to the planet and the animals. they have tortured and destroyed nearly every species and the planet itself

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
18. wrong. it is a celebration or carnage
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:12 PM
Jul 2015

and it is most definitely NOT quick or merciful. they have studied this. most of the killers are not that good and the animals linger in agony while they die and watch their family members die.

this is horrific barbarity and it needs to end.

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
13. These fucks really don't need to kill these whales
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 08:36 PM
Jul 2015

It is a terrible "tradition" that needs to be stopped.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
56. Are you going to pay to replace this part of their diet?
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 03:21 PM
Jul 2015

They need this more than any american needs a cheeseburger that is for sure. Anyone fair would understand that an American going to a Mcdonald's is far more offensive to nature and the dignity of life than this.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
58. They eat all the meat and they are poor. Where do they get food? In the US there are alternatives
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 03:47 PM
Jul 2015

what alternative do these islanders have? What they don't catch they have to import, who pays for that? Or are you saying they just don't need food?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
14. Well now we know why they detained Sea Shepard....
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 08:44 PM
Jul 2015


Why do this? Not for food obviously. Is the population there high enough to need 250 whale carcasses?
They are wiping out whole family groups doing this.
Assholes
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
15. You should be better informed about this practice. Here's a link:
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 09:15 PM
Jul 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling_in_the_Faroe_Islands

They do it precisely for food.

They have a population of 50,000.

The hunt is strictly regulated and done by communities, not commercial enterprises.

Their diet is mainly meat because they can't grow much there.

They've been doing it for a thousand years.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
20. slavery went on for years too
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:16 PM
Jul 2015

that justification of tradition is bullshit. these people unnecessarily and gleefully torture sentient creatures who are probably more intelligent than we are.

it is a celebration of barbarity and represents the worst of what humans have to offer the world.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
24. That doesn't make it any better.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:01 AM
Jul 2015

They still wipe out entire family groups reducing the genetic diversity of the local population.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
29. That would be an interesting day.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 03:44 AM
Jul 2015

All of our other perceived problems would seem so trivial on that day.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
28. We do celebrate mass shootings when we label them "war."
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 03:04 AM
Jul 2015

Personally, I value human life much more than a whale's life. Most likely because I am a human. I admit that this is a bias. Do you value human life and whale life equally?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
27. I went hunting when I was kid.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 03:01 AM
Jul 2015

I have no guilt about that. I've fished from time to time. I eat a lot of fish. Same thing in my mind. I feel like I would be a hypocrite to condemn the eating of whales or porpoises. I value a whale's life more than a salmon's life, but I recognize the fact that this value is arbitrary and meaningless.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
32. right. but did you drive 100 deer into corrals using ATVs and 20 helper,when you were a hunting kid?
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 06:28 AM
Jul 2015

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
31. dates back hundreds of years. not the motorboat and net use. one whale at a time is tradition &
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 06:14 AM
Jul 2015

culture. Same goes for Japans 'rape of quantities of sea creatures' claiming 'culture and tradition'

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
47. No shit, these islanders are infinitely less disgusting
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jul 2015

Anyone who eats meat and is outraged by this is a cretin of the first order.

As a lifelong vegetarian if there is anything like moral authority on the issue I have it. If so my ruling is that the westerners should consider laying aside their white man's burden until the last factory farm turns off it's final death treadmill.

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

MBS

(9,688 posts)
41. Yes indeed.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jul 2015

In Japan at least, the dolphin- and whale-killing doesn't even make any economic sense.
I know less about the situation for the Faroe Islands, but massacre of 250 whales is about as horrific as it gets.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
48. This is ghastly on its face, BUT...
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jul 2015

Let's look at "God's Creation".

Who creates a world where survival is dependent on catching and ripping the flesh from still living
creatures? Who in thee hell calls this "intelligent design "?

A world populated by air fern types would make more sense.

Would anyone care to 'splain this to me?

That is one reason I dismiss religion.

ID?

You must be shitting me!

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
49. Time for DU to play the ethnocentrism game
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jul 2015

as always proving our capacity to indulge in the simplest forms of classic bigotry with hardly any self awareness.

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