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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:03 PM Jul 2015

Black Conservative Group Defends Cosby Against ‘Appalling’ Release of Court Documents

Source: Mediaite

The black conservative group Project 21 is defending Bill Cosby from the release of the court documents from a 2005 case in which Cosby saidadmitted he obtained Quaaludes to give to women he wanted to have sex with.

At issue was how Judge Eduardo Robreno decided to release the documents due to Cosby’s role as a “public moralist,” specifically with his “Pound Cake” speech talking about crime and the responsibility of black families.

(...)

Member Deroy Murdock also said that “Americans should be free to express themselves without fearing that their views will be used later to justify breaching confidential documents in what resembles political score settling by federal judges.”

There’s also this comment from Bishop Council Nedd:

“What the judge did in this case is as morally reprehensible as SCOTUS deciding to ignore the Constitution on the gay marriage issue. The judge releasing those sealed documents is pandering to the media, akin to Justice Roberts’s decision in the ObamaCare ruling, and Charleston County Magistrate James Gosnell, Jr.’s very odd speech at the arraignment of Dylann Roof.”


Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/black-conservative-group-defends-cosby-against-appalling-release-of-court-documents/
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Black Conservative Group Defends Cosby Against ‘Appalling’ Release of Court Documents (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 OP
I really can't describe how horrible black conservatives are as people... MrScorpio Jul 2015 #1
There is no way I could possibly agree with you more. It amazes me. LoisB Jul 2015 #6
If that's a defense of Cosby's alleged behavior rury Jul 2015 #2
Why weren't the court documents public in the first place? JDPriestly Jul 2015 #3
This is appalling. There was nothing improper about releasing it. What bothers me is that roguevalley Jul 2015 #4
Could you please post the exact section where he admitted to slipping the drugs to the women cstanleytech Jul 2015 #10
As I understand it, he admitted to getting Quaaludes for young women that he wanted to have sex with DawgHouse Jul 2015 #11
Oh, so he didnt confess or anything to actually slipping them the drugs? To bad, not cstanleytech Jul 2015 #13
His admission strengthened a plaintiff's (Janice Dickerson) defamation lawsuit against him LanternWaste Jul 2015 #20
Well we shall have to wait and see if it does strengthen her case. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #22
so bill cosby is right up there in imporance with marriage equality???? seriously???? niyad Jul 2015 #5
More like the unimportance of women, and harm done to them.. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2015 #15
sadly, you are quite correct. niyad Jul 2015 #16
I like to think I know the score....on this issue, at least. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2015 #18
disappointing, but, alas, not surprising. niyad Jul 2015 #19
"Americans should be free to express themselves....." WTF ????? groundloop Jul 2015 #7
"black conservative group" Novara Jul 2015 #8
They still like the "pound cake" speech. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #12
There are many in the black community who are NOT defending him... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #21
Well at least he's got somebody defending him and it's not just all these white people just piling craigmatic Jul 2015 #9
Did he really rhink he could release some of the sealed information without it all coming out? marble falls Jul 2015 #14
Their isn't a disgusting stance conservatives won't take. tenderfoot Jul 2015 #17

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
1. I really can't describe how horrible black conservatives are as people...
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jul 2015

Every time I try, they outdo themselves.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. Why weren't the court documents public in the first place?
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:17 PM
Jul 2015

Why were they sealed?

Oh, because Cosby only agreed to settle an earlier case if the truth about his conduct could be kept a secret.

Gowen argued in his brief that Cosby agreed to the settlement under terms that all discovery materials related to the case would remain confidential.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/27/bill-cosby-embarrassing-court-documents_n_7677084.html

Oh. So Cosby paid to have these documents sealed, that is, not published, in yet another case alleging his sexual misconduct.

Money. Money. Money. Money. Money. Money. Money.

Nice to have it when you want your wrongdoings to be hidden from public view.

Yet another settlement aimed to prevent future victims of crimes of simply civil wrongs from knowing the truth and maybe avoiding a lot of heartbreak.

These kinds of clauses in settlements are almost required, but should they be? Should the truth be hidden in thsi way, just as a price for a settlement?

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
4. This is appalling. There was nothing improper about releasing it. What bothers me is that
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jul 2015

they entirely ignore the contents of it. Apparently, among their group drugging women for sex without consent is appropriate even to that pretend Bishop. I wonder how clean their hands are? At the end, all moralists fail too.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
10. Could you please post the exact section where he admitted to slipping the drugs to the women
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:21 PM
Jul 2015

to have sex without their consent because I checked and I am not not finding it but I'm pretty tired as I only managed to get 3 hours of sleep last night so thats probably why I couldnt find it

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
11. As I understand it, he admitted to getting Quaaludes for young women that he wanted to have sex with
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:27 PM
Jul 2015

But when he asked if he used them, his attorney told him not to answer the question.

"Did you ever give any of those young women the Quaaludes without their knowledge?" Troiani asked.

Cosby's attorney objected and told him not to answer the question.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/bill-cosby-quaaludes-sexual-assault-allegations/

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
13. Oh, so he didnt confess or anything to actually slipping them the drugs? To bad, not
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:32 PM
Jul 2015

that would have made much of a difference because the statute of limitation is probably expired by now I would imagine and I dont think civil lawsuit would work either because civil also have a time limitation on them as well dont they?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. His admission strengthened a plaintiff's (Janice Dickerson) defamation lawsuit against him
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:31 PM
Jul 2015

His admission strengthened a plaintiff's (Janice Dickerson) defamation lawsuit against him. Additionally, in 1990, California enacted a law allowing victims of sexual abuse as minors to sue for conduct in decades past.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
22. Well we shall have to wait and see if it does strengthen her case.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:38 PM
Jul 2015

As for the who decades past thing I am not 100% sure but doesnt this http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/olrdata/jud/rpt/2003-R-0512.htm kill that?







BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
15. More like the unimportance of women, and harm done to them..
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jul 2015

Is right down there with environmental protection.


Black conservatives. Sacrificing women for political points, just like every other con.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
18. I like to think I know the score....on this issue, at least.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jul 2015

Always disappoints me to see how few others see it.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
7. "Americans should be free to express themselves....." WTF ?????
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:12 PM
Jul 2015

"Americans should be free to express themselves without fearing that their views will be used later to justify breaching confidential documents in what resembles political score settling by federal judges.” So Cosby drugging women in order to have sex is his first amendment right? These people are truly fucked up.

Novara

(5,844 posts)
8. "black conservative group"
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jul 2015


....cognitive dissonance....

I'm watching a CNN special on this. OMG, how can anyone defend him?
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
12. They still like the "pound cake" speech.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:31 PM
Jul 2015

Also, my sense is that a lot of them felt disregarded or ignored by the rest of the black community even before they decided they were conservatives and perhaps they feel a bond with the man because they see him as a fellow outcast, a fellow pariah.

Self-pity and bitterness can play powerful roles in shaping a person.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
21. There are many in the black community who are NOT defending him...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jul 2015

but his most ardent supporters are in the CONSERVATIVE community, period.

Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and a slew of other conservatives--both black and white--have been defending Cosby, but because they necessarily agree with what he did, but because they love it when prominent black figures put down black people. Especially when said figure is himself a flawed character. They get to have their cake and eat it too. They get to use this figure to castigate black folk, while at the same time, ridicule him for whatever mistake he made. Remember: he's still an Obama supporter. So they can protect themselves from charges of racism by pointing to Cosby and saying, "well, see...he's black and has been saying the same thing we've been saying about you stupid Negroes...". And, at the same time, get other black conservatives cheering and co-signing as well. At the same time when it's convenient, they can ridicule him for being an Obama supporter, and going against his former "principles".

That's why we black liberals also need to be careful who we champion and put up as our leaders as well. All are fallible human beings.

I, for one, have been quite dismayed by any black person who excuses Cosby's behavior. I'm most depressed by black women who defend this guy.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
9. Well at least he's got somebody defending him and it's not just all these white people just piling
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:53 PM
Jul 2015

on. Had this been rush limbaugh or somebody they'd have their defenders in the media. Cosby has seemed to unite conservative and liberal white people against him which makes me ponder the race issue.

marble falls

(57,114 posts)
14. Did he really rhink he could release some of the sealed information without it all coming out?
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 09:36 PM
Jul 2015

He opened his own can of worms.

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