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ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:27 AM Jun 2015

GOP insiders expect no harm from Confederate flag controversy

Source: Politico

Early voting state Republicans overwhelmingly say the 2016 GOP field responded adequately – or better — to the issue of removing the Confederate flag from the South Carolina capitol.
By KYLE CHENEY 6/26/15

Republican insiders overwhelmingly say the GOP presidential candidates gave an adequate – or even strong — response on the issue of the Confederate flag this week, after its presence over the South Carolina state capitol became a symbol of America’s racial divide in the aftermath of last week’s shootings in Charleston. …

Despite a week’s worth of unfavorable headlines over the issue, the GOP insiders said the 2016 field struck the right notes after South Carolina GOP Gov. Nikki Haley and 2012 presidential nominee Mitt Romney called for removing the flag from the capitol grounds.

‘Governor Romney opened the gate last weekend for Republicans to do the right thing on the flag, and to their credit, the majority of the candidates followed his lead,’ said one New Hampshire Republican. ‘The Republicans like to talk a lot about expanding the party and reaching out to minority communities. This week, we took action on those words.’

Sixty-one percent of the Republican insiders surveyed called the collective message on the flag ‘adequate,’ and another 21 percent called it ‘strong.’ Democratic insiders had an opposite view: roughly two-thirds rated the GOP candidate responses as ‘weak’ or ‘disastrous.’ ‘What a bunch of babies,’ said a New Hampshire Democrat. ‘They couldn’t do the right thing until Haley gave them cover.’


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/gop-insiders-expect-no-harm-from-confederate-flag-controversy-119457.html



Has taking down the Confederate swastika become a “shield issue” for Republicans, generating much favorable publicity for their “tolerance” but not diminishing their substantive Dixiecrat stances on terrorist firearms and white supremacist politics? Are Republicans just abandoning one old “dog-whistle” in favor of other signals to their base that they still want to bring back the “good old days”?

WHAT’S YOUR OPINION?

Today’s media funeral coverage in Charleston presumably will feature many shots of the St. Andrew’s Cross flying high in front of the SC Capitol. Will Boehner, Scalise, McConnell, and other leaders in Congress get many favorable photo-ops they can use for months or years, because they “took a strong stand” on the shield issue of the flag?

Meanwhile, Republicans quietly this week suppressed a Democratic effort to allow the CDC to do mere research on the public health implications of current firearms policies, barred by law since 1996 (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/gop-gun-violence-cdc-study-charleston-south-carolina-119384.html).

And the hushed silence of a funeral may allow GOP leaders, before they hurry to their limos, to any escape any real substantive questions about the white supremacist politics the Republican party has practiced since the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Will Steve Scalise, second in command in the House, be asked any questions about his appearance at a David Duke event in 2002, his vote against apologizing for slavery, or his stand against an MLK Day holiday in Louisiana? And will John Boehner be asked about his suppression of a 2009 report on white racist domestic terrorism by DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano? Suppression of that report may have forestalled action to prevent last Wednesday’s racist terrorist massacre (see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141125660
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GOP insiders expect no harm from Confederate flag controversy (Original Post) ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2015 OP
All hands on deck at Politco to rescue the GOP from it's multiple recent failures and exposed racism Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #1
How did the GOP hurt themselves this week? By offending their base ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2015 #7
Palatable? How do you make Fox News Bullshit Stew, chock-full of chunks of racism, palatable to "non-racists"? Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #8
This fucking flag needs to be hung around the neck of the GOP.... blackspade Jun 2015 #2
I wish I had a picture with ... ananda Jun 2015 #3
But all national GOP leaders and hopefuls (except maybe Huckabee) ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2015 #5
You believe them? The racist GOP candidates? I guess you can if you really, really, want to. I pass on trusting the GOP. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #9
"I don't suffer from amnesia". But, among voters, aren't you ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2015 #11
You mean the Dixie Swastika, not St. Andrews's symbol, right? Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #12
One week of dodging and weaving does not expunge..... blackspade Jun 2015 #14
...and they're changing HoosierCowboy Jun 2015 #4
Now they can focus fully on welfare queens and food-stamps-for-vodka programs BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #6
"No steak or lobster with Food Stamps" seems to be one new dog-whistle ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2015 #13
They've only just moved on from the 19th century BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #15
Sixty-one percent of the Republican insiders called the collective message on the flag ‘adequate." yellowcanine Jun 2015 #10
GOP insiders see no harm in alienating their rabid right wingers? Oh yeah, NCjack Jun 2015 #16

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. All hands on deck at Politco to rescue the GOP from it's multiple recent failures and exposed racism
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jun 2015

GOP insiders...what else do you expect them to "say"?

I say the GOP just fucked themselves in multiple orifices this week.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
7. How did the GOP hurt themselves this week? By offending their base
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:10 AM
Jun 2015

of white supremacists in the South and elsewhere?

Haven't they made themselves more palatable to non-racist Americans this week?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Palatable? How do you make Fox News Bullshit Stew, chock-full of chunks of racism, palatable to "non-racists"?
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jun 2015

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
2. This fucking flag needs to be hung around the neck of the GOP....
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:49 AM
Jun 2015

Like a load stone.
The flag is a symbol of hate and oppression, core values in the GOP.

ananda

(28,876 posts)
3. I wish I had a picture with ...
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jun 2015

... the GOP elephant stuck in the stocks with a
confederate flag painted on the wood.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
5. But all national GOP leaders and hopefuls (except maybe Huckabee)
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:01 AM
Jun 2015

abandoned the Confederate "dog whistle" flag this week. Wouldn't it be hard for any them to appear to equivocate on the issue of waving that flag in the future? Won't they have to find a new "dog whistle" now?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. You believe them? The racist GOP candidates? I guess you can if you really, really, want to. I pass on trusting the GOP.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jun 2015

A little thing called "past behavior". I do not suffer from amnesia.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
11. "I don't suffer from amnesia". But, among voters, aren't you
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jun 2015

part of a small minority?

One very perceptive person once observed that, if you really want to understand how most American voters perceive the world, turn your TV sound off and tune into Fox "News". Today they'll see insincere contrition on the faces of most Republican leaders for an hour or so after the President's eulogy begins in Charleston at 2 pm.

And the St. Andrew's cross won't be in the same frame with any national Republican leader ever again, except by accident.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
14. One week of dodging and weaving does not expunge.....
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 01:11 PM
Jun 2015

years of support and stoking of hatred and oppression.
The flag may be 'retired' by the GOP but the core values it represents are there for the viewing, daily.

BeyondGeography

(39,380 posts)
6. Now they can focus fully on welfare queens and food-stamps-for-vodka programs
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jun 2015

(Good luck with that minority outreach, GOP.)

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
10. Sixty-one percent of the Republican insiders called the collective message on the flag ‘adequate."
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:32 AM
Jun 2015

That's pretty funny that they think this is a good thing. So 61% of the most loyal Republican partisans think the response was just "adequate." Wow. Just wow. Talk about being out of touch. What about actual voters, particularly minority voters?

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