France beheading attack: 'Man decapitated' near Lyon

[Bosonic]

Source: BBC

A man has been beheaded and at least one other person injured in a suspected Islamist attack on a gas factory near the French city of Lyon.

There were several small explosions, possibly caused by gas canisters, at the Air Products factory in Saint-Quentin-Fallavier, sources said.

A man has been arrested by anti-terror police, officials say.

Reports suggest two attackers drove into the factory carrying a flag with Arabic writing on it.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33284937

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Beheading And Blast Reported At French Factory

A man has been decapitated by attackers brandishing Islamist flags at a French factory near Grenoble, according to officials.

The severed head had Arabic writing scrawled across it and was found on a fence next to a jihadi banner, a French legal source said.

Several other people are reported to have been hurt in an explosion triggered when two men crashed a car into gas canisters at a factory in Saint-Quentin-Fallavier in southeastern France.

"Two individuals deliberately rammed a car into the gas containers to trigger an explosion," the police source said.

http://news.sky.com/story/1508786/man-beheaded-as-islamist-flag-found-in-france

#BREAKING One dead, several hurt in attack on French factory: legal source
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/614357911037456384

#BREAKING Attacker on French factory carrying Islamist flag: legal source
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/614358089387610112

#BREAKING Decapitated body found near attacked French factory: legal source
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/614359382600585216

#BREAKING Arabic writing on severed head pinned to French factory gates: legal source
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/614367239437983744

[Joe the Revelator]

1. This has not been a good year for France...they are going to have to deal..

...with this issue drastically.

[Surya Gayatri]

2. France is literally in the front lines of the battle

against radical Islamists and their on-line indoctrination of disaffected young people.

[alboe]

3. My thoughts are with the victims and really hoping I don't wake up to news of any further attacks

[romanic]

4. God help those innocent workers and the decapitated man.

A life lost and others hurt due to Islamic theocratic jihad bullshit.

[7962]

5. France should have started their crack down years ago. Hopefully its not too late.

The calls for an Islamic France by savages wont go away

[get the red out]

7. Yes, I agree

I hope it is not too late also.

[NobodyHere]

16. What kind of "crack down" would you like

[7962]

17. Several things.

First is to stop all immigration from Muslim countries. The population is already nearly 10% muslim. Its the 2nd largest religion. france itself is to blame for some of the seeds of this because they didnt encourage assimilation years ago when immigration picked up.
But now the genie is out of the bottle. France needs to crack down on all instances of hateful speeches and instigation by muslim leaders. They dont have the US constitution in France; they can get away with a lot more than we could here. Stop the attempt to Islamize neighborhoods. Regardless of what you try to call it, some leaders are pushing for this.
When you have multiple incidents like this its time to pull up the welcome mat. Tough shit for those who dont like it.

[Stella_Artois]

18. "They dont have the US constitution in France"

Thankyou for the valuable insight.

[7962]

22. You'd be surprised how many people will say "I know my rights!",

when they're in a foreign country. Happens all the time. Our rights dont follow us into a foreign country.

[muriel_volestrangler]

21. So you want active discrimination against anyone from a Muslim country

by saying their country of origin bars them, rather than what the individual is like. Why on earth would you think that would make the Muslims already in France less likely to decide the French state was Islamophobic?

"They dont have the US constitution in France; they can get away with a lot more than we could here."

But they do have the European Convention on Human Rights, and that bans the kind of discrimination that you'd like, just as the US constitution that you find so awkwardly liberal and just.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

24. I wonder if the French have quotas for immigration like the U.S.

The U.S.immigration laws limit per country immigration to only 7% of the total number of immigrants in any given year, covering all immigrant categories (family reunfication, employment-based, asylee, refugee, and lottery). That's why the backlogs for legal immigration from countries like Mexico and the Philippines are so long. I suspect they do have such limits, otherwise an even larger immigration from Algeria would arrive in France, especially the native Berbers or Kabyles, who have a long history of being discriminated against by the Arabic-speaking population and who have an independence movement against the government of Algeria seeking recognition of their native language and against the further Arabization of the native peoples of North Africa.

[GOLGO 13]

6. Yep, France is gonna have to get Israeli on these jihadists

Time to start kicking in some doors down the rue's and boulevards.

[cascadiance]

8. When I first saw this thread title, I was wondering if French Revolution was happening again...

... with people so frustrated with the ruling class in those days that the guillotines were used to take down the oligarchs of those days in times where upheaval was so drastic that we had a lot of instability as well. At least the circumstances here don't show those exact patterns happening just yet! Not sure i should be relieved that this seems to be something different or not...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

12. Islamic extremists would have been guillotined had they been around in the 1790s

The revolutionaries were not too keen on religious fanatics promoting theocracy.

[cascadiance]

14. Oh yeah, I would see that happening too.

Just when I saw the subject line of someone being decapitated in France, my mind raced to thinking about the French Revolution, which I fear is the end game if corporate America doesn't let its foot off the gas in taking power and oppressing us here. I hope that activism to fight this oppression doesn't ever get to that point where I think any kind of civil rebuilding of society will be delayed past many of our life times, and things like climate change will probably keep it from ever happening. We'll be seeing continuing of the Mad Max genre branch out in to "reality" shows instead of anything more civil later then, if we even have a film or television industry then...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

15. Yup the notion that France should become a caliphate with the Caliph having the divine right to rule

from Allah wouldn't have gone over too well. I completely agree that sending a few big shot CEOs up the steps to the public guillotine might get the attention of the international corporate thieves.

[candelista]

19. Guillotine = mechanized beheading.

Sharia punishment with 18th Century technology.

[ananda]

9. With France it appears to me that the first priority..

.. is preserving the culture.

So I don't think that the government will do armed battle
with the Islamic extremists.

At the same time, it is that preservation of culture which
helps create the extremists who are not part of it.

It's sort of a Catch-22, imo.

[romanic]

11. I disagree

The extremists don't want to conform to France's (or any other European country's) culture; they want to terrorize these governments to spread their so-called moral and middle-age theocratic codes not only on the moderate Muslims who have adapted to Western life, but on anyone else within that country's borders in their name of their sky god. Suffice to say, France and Europe needs to confront these extremists/jihadists/terrorists/whatever and kick their asses out.

[cascadiance]

13. The basis for right wing parties in Europe is more cultural than economic...

Thom Hartmann has traveled to Europe and has had conservative party guests in various European countries like Denmark, etc. and when he talks to them, they actually like things like single payer health care and other forms of things that are looked at as "left wing" here when corporatists shut them down and dismiss them. The bigger basis of their parties is to "control immigration", etc.

Interesting story about one time president of the Netherlands, Pim Fortuyn, who was a gay man, but was brought to power by a faction that was very anti-Muslim, and was assassinated later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Pim_Fortuyn

There was a movie made of his life "May 6th", and even the director of this movie was assassinated too.

This kind of backlash in Europe with the many immigrant communities there I think perhaps does fuel this more radical terrorism as well. Most immigrants in Europe are decent people, but if you have some of the extreme anti-immigrant sentiment in some areas, I do think it creates a backlash, particularly with the Muslim community.

When you have even in Germany the most popular fast food there ironically is not the hamburger (as it is here, and one might think it would be there where the city Hamburg is), but doner kebab, a Turkish rendition of gyros, that I personally like a lot myself and look for here, where it is hard to find in the states, having lived in Turkey myself at a younger age. That is a testament to the size of the Turkish immigrant community in Germany too, which drives their food selection much in the same way Mexican food has become a staple here in this country with the larger Mexican American community too.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2010-04-11-germany-doner-kebab_N.htm

I think it is harder for us here from a distance to see the way these cultures mix (or don't mix) when we're not there.

[candelista]

20. What are you saying?

What is your point?

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. Victim was boss of arrested man; vehicle was authorised for site; firemen tackled him

The French president Francois Hollande has been speaking in Paris after a security meeting.

He praised the "extremely brave" firemen who tackled the suspect.
...
AFP reports that the victim of Friday was the boss of the suspect. They've been told that by a source close to the investigation. AP earlier said he had been killed away from the site of the factory.
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Jean-Paul Bonnetain, prefect of Isere region, has confirmed the vehicle used to gain access to the site had the necessary authorisation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-33287095

[Blue_Tires]

23. I eagerly await Greenwald's column saying he had it coming

because the French government killed some dude somewhere in the Middle East at some point in time...