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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 02:16 AM Jun 2015

Vandals Target Confederate Monuments In Half-Dozen States

Source: Associated Press

Jun 26, 1:36 AM EDT By JIM SALTER
Associated Press

ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Vandals have targeted monuments dedicated to the leaders and soldiers of the Confederacy, painting the slogan "Black lives matter" on memorials in a half-dozen states where the landmarks stand tall in parks and outside government buildings.

The graffiti reflects the racial tension that permeates post-Ferguson America, more than a week after a white gunman shot and killed nine black congregants at a Charleston, South Carolina, church.

Michael Allen, a lecturer in American culture studies at Washington University in St. Louis, compared the vandalism to the toppling of statues in Russia at the end of the Soviet empire.

"If the monuments are strong statements of past values, defacing them is the easiest and loudest way to rebuke those statements," Allen said.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONFEDERATE_MONUMENTS_DEFACED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-06-26-01-36-52

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Vandals Target Confederate Monuments In Half-Dozen States (Original Post) Purveyor Jun 2015 OP
this doesn't help though I understand completely the sentiment. You should google the roguevalley Jun 2015 #1
Clemson University and Winthrop both have halls in this guy's name d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #21
There are options as the purpose of the Vandals... NotHardly Jun 2015 #2
Good! delrem Jun 2015 #3
statues can be fixed, or not. Nine dead can not be resurrected. Nobel_Twaddle_III Jun 2015 #4
Exactly Jamastiene Jun 2015 #31
Could it be a case of JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #5
Kids coordinated a mutil-state attack? Do there parents know where they are? Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #30
I don't really have it in me to condemn this form of vandalism. n/t Little Tich Jun 2015 #6
I don't condone the vandalism bluestateguy Jun 2015 #7
Paint? Next time use thermite or a sawzall. mwrguy Jun 2015 #8
Have they lynched anyone? The Jungle 1 Jun 2015 #9
+1 Euphoria Jun 2015 #26
Sounds like a good start OakCliffDem Jun 2015 #10
Tear down ALL war monuments - Buenaventura Jun 2015 #11
If you're talking about the wall for the dead from Viet Nam, you're out of line. marble falls Jun 2015 #13
why the wall in Washington, if you don't mind me asking. heaven05 Jun 2015 #23
The Vietnam Veterans Memorial does is not a monument to war, Maedhros Jun 2015 #28
Can't say I unconditionally support it, I sure as hell do not condemn it. Maybe its not.... marble falls Jun 2015 #12
"Vandals." Um, no....nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #14
if they had been from rich white neighborhoods doing this to union graves restorefreedom Jun 2015 #16
They are called vandals -- and worse -- every time they damage or destroy a monument. . . Journeyman Jun 2015 #18
ok so they are all vandals fair enough restorefreedom Jun 2015 #25
good for them. i hope it doesnt get cleaned off. mopinko Jun 2015 #15
Suits me. I believe in constructive vandalism. (nt) Paladin Jun 2015 #17
Pull 'em down. truthisfreedom Jun 2015 #19
The vandals are scumbags and so are the people supporting them. Leontius Jun 2015 #20
You've been...obvious for the last week or so. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #29
while it won't change heaven05 Jun 2015 #22
Remove all those damn traitors statues in the Halls of Congress packman Jun 2015 #24
Here in Lexington, KY get the red out Jun 2015 #27

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
1. this doesn't help though I understand completely the sentiment. You should google the
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 02:29 AM
Jun 2015

man statue on the state capital, a dude named Tillman. You will be astonished. He has to come down too.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
21. Clemson University and Winthrop both have halls in this guy's name
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:47 AM
Jun 2015

According to Wiki this guy made sure blacks never served in government until the Civil Rights Act did away with his legislated bigotry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Tillman

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
2. There are options as the purpose of the Vandals...
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 02:36 AM
Jun 2015

They could be making the statement as support for "Black live matter" or they could be persons who intend through their vandalism to heat the issue further and they could be persons pretending to believe the statement but lay blame in a different direction as to the identity of who is doing it ... place to place, lots of options.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
3. Good!
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 03:01 AM
Jun 2015

It's quite obvious that the US civil war isn't over.
The war should be fought until every last vestige of racist culture is eradicated.

And by that I don't mean substituting another racist target for the one in the news today!

Nobel_Twaddle_III

(323 posts)
4. statues can be fixed, or not. Nine dead can not be resurrected.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 03:10 AM
Jun 2015

or
Well bless their hearts, these people are just having a little rebellion, like the guy the statue is of. It's a cultural value, part of the local heritage.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
31. Exactly
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jun 2015

Those nine people nor all of the other people ruthlessly murdered by hatemongers can be brought back. A statue is an inanimate object.

JustAnotherGen

(31,888 posts)
5. Could it be a case of
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:30 AM
Jun 2015

Run of the mill kids doing stupid things?

I just checked to see if there was any news on the Church burned (arson) in NC a few days ago - and learned another one was burned in GA. Article in the Atlantic discussses Clinton's investigation in the mid 90's -they discovered 827 churches burned or bombed.

Could this be kids acting out?

ETA - http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/06/arson-churches-north-carolina-georgia/396881/

I also think we can't rule out someone agitating for the sake of agitating.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
9. Have they lynched anyone?
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:32 AM
Jun 2015

Are they running around burning crosses. Is there latest clothing style a sheet. No they are not doing any of those things.
I am a white man living a comfortable life in suburbia. I am pretty sure I should not be judging paint smears.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
23. why the wall in Washington, if you don't mind me asking.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 12:12 PM
Jun 2015

a soldier is a necessity for any nation given human nature. They cannot set policy, the just HAVE TO carry it out, right or wrong. If the soldier, from the 5 star general down to the lowest private, finds that the cause they are fighting for is not what the POLITICIANS say it is, conscience searching is in order. Desertion is not an option but putting the truth of the lie out there can be. Speaking only for myself, I did it with VVAW, local chapter, and spoke out loud and clear on the lies I had bought. Our latest batch of soldiers, in spite of the 'Sniper' type propaganda are speaking out. So leave the dead alone if that is the intent of your statement.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
28. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial does is not a monument to war,
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 02:29 PM
Jun 2015

it's a monument to the horrors of war, and I'm all in favor of those.

marble falls

(57,208 posts)
12. Can't say I unconditionally support it, I sure as hell do not condemn it. Maybe its not....
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 08:41 AM
Jun 2015

vandalism, maybe is an expropriation of a monument to dead and forgettable traitors to create a memorial for black lives lost in a war for equality.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
16. if they had been from rich white neighborhoods doing this to union graves
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:23 AM
Jun 2015

they would be called misguided kids

just guessing

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
25. ok so they are all vandals fair enough
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 01:22 PM
Jun 2015

personally I don't agree that this is the way to go about it by destroying property. But I'm not a descendent of a slave so I'm not going to comment any further than that.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
22. while it won't change
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jun 2015

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the racists of america and won't stop the racists murders by citizens and executions by police, won't stop the lynchings and church burnings, I totally agree that these abominations that revere american traitors need to go. Remember when Saddam's statues were toppled, Lenin's during the fall of Berlin wall? Now's the time for all good americans to stand up and topple racism and it's everyday reminders. Won't change johnny reb and his yard flag, truck flags, or clothing and those I'm glad to see. Why? Because with the Charleston 9 going into the grave today, the enemy must be sorted out, as much as possible. The silent ones? Just hope they pick on the wrong person.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
27. Here in Lexington, KY
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jun 2015

Someone spray-painted "Black Lives Matter" on the statue of Confederate General John Hunt Morgan. Good for them!

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