MLB roundup: ESPN says it has evidence of Pete Rose bets
Source: Norwich Bulletin
BRISTOL ESPN says it obtained a notebook that shows Pete Rose bet on Cincinnati Reds games during his last season as an active player in 1986.
The career hits leader agreed to a lifetime ban from baseball in 1989 after an investigation by John Dowd, a lawyer retained by Major League Baseball, concluded he bet on the Reds to win from 1985-87 while he was a player and manager.
Rose repeatedly denied the allegations before admitting in a 2004 autobiography he bet on Cincinnati to win while he managed the team. Rose became player-manager in 1984 and managed the team until the suspension in August 1989.
ESPN's "Outside the Lines" said it obtained a notebook seized by U.S. Postal Inspection Service in October 1989 from Rose associate Michael Bertolini, which reflect betting records from March to July 1986. The documents are under seal and stored in the National Archives' New York office, ESPN said.
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I defended Pete for years. There goes the Hall of Fame!
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)I know the rules but I still don't care unless he bet against his own team.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,367 posts)Betting FOR your team seems harmless. It won't affect the outcome.
And there's been no charge of performance enhancing drugs, domestic violence.
I think a week of rehab, a non-apology, and he should get in the hall of fame.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)He has also bet on his team as a manger.
He had a lot more authority, and could keep a pitcher out there to long, or use up your best relievers that night to ensure a win when it may not have been necessary, leaving you worse off tomorrow, so there are other issues with it.
I live in Cincinnati, and think Pete should be reinstated, for the record.
AwakeAtLast
(14,134 posts)He was the only one to ever do it.....
pipoman
(16,038 posts)I think they should let him in now...it isn't like it is the Hall of Saints or something...enough moral degenerates in there to make Rose look like a monk...
Sad, but true.
dembotoz
(16,834 posts)Not like betting ban is in very fine easy to miss print...
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)It wasn't roids.
I doubt he would throw a game because of a bet. Prove that and you have your scandal!
asjr
(10,479 posts)Pete Rose.
I was going to write, "in other news, who gives a shit" but you said it better.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Rose's betting didn't damage the integrity of the game unless he purposefully threw games. He should be reinstated.
4lbs
(6,861 posts)Because of that scandal almost 100 years ago, baseball instituted some sweeping changes, one of which was that any player or manager involved with gambling on baseball of any sort was to serve a lifetime ban.
Rose knowingly broke "the" rule of baseball. He made a good living doing what he loved, not getting into the HOF is not the end of the world for him.