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Omaha Steve

(99,718 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:19 AM Jun 2015

MLB roundup: ESPN says it has evidence of Pete Rose bets

Source: Norwich Bulletin

BRISTOL — ESPN says it obtained a notebook that shows Pete Rose bet on Cincinnati Reds games during his last season as an active player in 1986.

The career hits leader agreed to a lifetime ban from baseball in 1989 after an investigation by John Dowd, a lawyer retained by Major League Baseball, concluded he bet on the Reds to win from 1985-87 while he was a player and manager.

Rose repeatedly denied the allegations before admitting in a 2004 autobiography he bet on Cincinnati to win while he managed the team. Rose became player-manager in 1984 and managed the team until the suspension in August 1989.

ESPN's "Outside the Lines" said it obtained a notebook seized by U.S. Postal Inspection Service in October 1989 from Rose associate Michael Bertolini, which reflect betting records from March to July 1986. The documents are under seal and stored in the National Archives' New York office, ESPN said.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.norwichbulletin.com/article/20150622/SPORTS/150629849



I defended Pete for years. There goes the Hall of Fame!
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MLB roundup: ESPN says it has evidence of Pete Rose bets (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2015 OP
Ebay. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #1
He is still one of the greats. CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #2
I agree. This seems like a very minor infraction. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #4
its a lot more serious than that Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #8
And of course AwakeAtLast Jun 2015 #5
He admitted it...I'm not seeing how this changes anything pipoman Jun 2015 #3
LOL! AwakeAtLast Jun 2015 #6
Selig took tons of crap but never sought to disclose this... dembotoz Jun 2015 #7
Time to move on! SCVDem Jun 2015 #9
That horse was beaten to death years ago. I still love asjr Jun 2015 #10
exactly. Javaman Jun 2015 #13
Bonds, Clemens, A-Rod, and McGwire all juiced. Arkana Jun 2015 #11
The ghost of the 1919 Chicago Black Sox is a good reason why he'll likely never be in the HOF. 4lbs Jun 2015 #12
Exactly. jalan48 Jun 2015 #14

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
2. He is still one of the greats.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:46 AM
Jun 2015

I know the rules but I still don't care unless he bet against his own team.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,367 posts)
4. I agree. This seems like a very minor infraction.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:06 AM
Jun 2015

Betting FOR your team seems harmless. It won't affect the outcome.

And there's been no charge of performance enhancing drugs, domestic violence.

I think a week of rehab, a non-apology, and he should get in the hall of fame.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
8. its a lot more serious than that
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:49 AM
Jun 2015

He has also bet on his team as a manger.

He had a lot more authority, and could keep a pitcher out there to long, or use up your best relievers that night to ensure a win when it may not have been necessary, leaving you worse off tomorrow, so there are other issues with it.

I live in Cincinnati, and think Pete should be reinstated, for the record.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
3. He admitted it...I'm not seeing how this changes anything
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:04 AM
Jun 2015

I think they should let him in now...it isn't like it is the Hall of Saints or something...enough moral degenerates in there to make Rose look like a monk...

dembotoz

(16,834 posts)
7. Selig took tons of crap but never sought to disclose this...
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:49 AM
Jun 2015

Not like betting ban is in very fine easy to miss print...

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
9. Time to move on!
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:00 AM
Jun 2015

It wasn't roids.

I doubt he would throw a game because of a bet. Prove that and you have your scandal!

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
11. Bonds, Clemens, A-Rod, and McGwire all juiced.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jun 2015

Rose's betting didn't damage the integrity of the game unless he purposefully threw games. He should be reinstated.

4lbs

(6,861 posts)
12. The ghost of the 1919 Chicago Black Sox is a good reason why he'll likely never be in the HOF.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jun 2015

Because of that scandal almost 100 years ago, baseball instituted some sweeping changes, one of which was that any player or manager involved with gambling on baseball of any sort was to serve a lifetime ban.

jalan48

(13,886 posts)
14. Exactly.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 10:48 AM
Jun 2015

Rose knowingly broke "the" rule of baseball. He made a good living doing what he loved, not getting into the HOF is not the end of the world for him.

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