Police: Seven people shot in Kensington

[onehandle]

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer

Seven people, including an 11-year-old girl, were wounded in a shotgun attack this afternoon in the city's Kensington section, said Commissioner Charles H. Ramsay.

Gunfire erupted about 2:30 p.m. in the 700 block of East Hilton Street, police said. The girl was grazed in the right arm and leg and was transported to St. Christopher's Hospital for Children, where she was listed in stable condition.

A 25-year-old man was wounded multiple times in the chest and a 23-year-old man was wounded in the neck, police said. Both were listed in critical condition at Temple University Hospital.

A 46-year-old man suffered gunshot wounds to his head and back and was reported in stable condition at Temple. A 32-year-old woman suffered gunshot wounds to the left side of her neck and her right leg. She was transported to Hahnemann University Hospital, where she was reported in stable condition.

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20150623_Seven_people_shot_in_Kensington.html

[randys1]

1. Not enough guns, I tell you

[durablend]

5. The NRA agrees wholeheartedly! n/t

[randys1]

6. I am surrounded by gun nuts in my life, it makes me sick

[daleanime]

2. ......

[shenmue]

3. ...

[Va Lefty]

4. It never ends...

saddened but not surprised

[Plucketeer]

7. Where WAS the "good guy"? nt

[cosmicone]

8. Another "responsible" gun owner -- at least "responsible" until yesterday! n/t

[Amishman]

16. doubtful, the area is very active with drug deals and gang activity

I would bet this is just one more felony added to an existing list.

We have plenty of gun problems in this country, but needlessly alienating those needed to try and fix this does not help. If people would turn down the hyperbole, perhaps popular ideas like safe storage laws and straw purchase penalties could be enacted with the support of those 'responsible gun owners'. I swear some gun safety proponents are their own worst enemy. Snarky comments do not help anything, and wash away what little common ground could be found.

[cosmicone]

17. I doubt there is any common ground to wash away.

The NRA proposes ridiculous measures like "guns must be locked every February 29 if it falls on a full moon day and dew point is less than 60%"

NRA wants NO controls period. The only thing to attack is the meme of "responsible gun owner." A real responsible gun owner would be for regulation and control of guns. However, we have gun owners who get shot accidentally, who shoot their children and grand children accidentally and support buying and selling guns with no government control, no traceability, no training, no security. That is not very "responsible" is it?

[Amishman]

19. I am not talking about the NRA, they are the loudmouth 5%

I am talking about the other 95 million gun owners who are not NRA members.

They are not the indoctrinated 'no to everything' masses that comment bomb every article. I am talking about a silent majority. I know they exist, I live next to a lot of them.

They are people who are ok with safe storage laws, especially if there would be a tax credit for getting a gun safe to lock up their shit. They would welcome opening up the background check system to individuals so they can be sure they aren't selling their spare rifle to a criminal. There is plenty of low hanging fruit within reach. But with all the venom thrown around at all gun owners, even this silent majority gets uncomfortable as soon as the words 'gun control' are uttered.

Gun safety groups have an image problem, one that is an obstacle to cooperation and progress. And cooperation is needed, there are not nearly enough people enthusiastic about major reform to actually get anywhere. Its time to put the bitterness aside and work towards what is obtainable today.

(yes, i know the phrase 'silent majority' has a history to it, but I could not think of a better way of conveying what I meant)

[cosmicone]

20. So victims should take solace in the fact that

the gun they were killed with was very securely stored by the (formerly) responsible gun owner?

Safely stored guns don't kill people!

You tell me, why would these so called sane and rational (in addition to "responsible&quot people be against an outright ban on AR15 and other assault rifles?

[Amishman]

21. I'm not talking about an assault rifle ban, or bans of any kind

I'm talking about other possible laws that no one is proposing but might actually have a chance of passing.

lets face it, an assault rifle ban is not happening any time soon. We couldn't even get it past the Senate two years ago. Why are we insisting on banging our head against a wall and get nothing done? Laws which only restrict and limit are not going to be popular among those on the receiving end, even if they might be for the long term greater good.

The answer is simple laws which could find popular support. Secure storage is certainly a good thing, and to get gun owners to support the idea it would help to add a little sugar like letting them write off the cost of a gun safe on their tax return. More background checks are also certainly a good thing. Get gun owners to support it by opening up the background check system for use in private sales. Using my in-laws and neighbors as examples, a lot of these people are not fundamentally opposed to reasonable restrictions but aren't going to be enthusiastic about it unless they see some personal benefit as well.

[arcane1]

9. "The shooting was the second involving a shotgun since Saturday night"

"The shooting was the second involving a shotgun since Saturday night, when 10 people were injured in an attack at a block party in West Philadelphia."

[cigsandcoffee]

10. When I read stories like this, i don't immediately blame guns...

...as though people had nothing to do with it. I mean, one could kill an awful lot of people with a Cadillac, too.

Why are thes shootings happening in the first place?

[840high]

14. Would be nice if this was addressed by our lawmakers.

[RobinA]

23. In These Cases

probably because someone sold a gram on someone else's corner.

[Jefferson23]

11. Just another day in gun loving America.

Peace to the victims and their families.

[RandySF]

12. They were Second Amended.

[AwareOne]

13. That damned Rebel flag strikes again

or maybe it was a statue of Jeff Davis with a bandanna over its face. I tell ya, as soon as we purge our history of the confederacy this shit will end.

[RobinA]

15. I Assume This Sarcasm,

but lately it's hard to tell. Most Philadelphians wouldn't know the Confederacy if it walked down the street.

[Fumesucker]

18. Bless their hearts, they don't call it Pennsyltucky for nothing

[RobinA]

22. Different Part

of the state. The "tucky" is in the middle and across the top.