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brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 05:01 PM Jun 2015

House conservatives lash out at Boehner's 'culture of punishment'

Source: Politico


A key bloc of conservatives is laying plans to throttle legislation on the House floor and will meet privately this week to discuss a shakeup of GOP leadership.

The group is irate at what one called a “culture of punishment” that Speaker John Boehner’s leadership team has instituted against dissenting members — most recently the removal of Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) from a subcommittee chairmanship after he bucked Republican leaders on an important procedural vote.

In one of his first interviews since that move, Meadows stopped short of calling for the removal of Boehner or his lieutenants; House conservatives likely lack support to oust Republicans leaders even if they wanted to. But the mere mention of such a move shows that tensions between Boehner’s team and House conservatives, after seeming to subside the past several months, are peaking once again.

Meadows, a founding member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said the group of roughly three dozen conservatives will meet Tuesday to discuss their next move.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/john-boehner-mark-meadows-house-gop-119286.html

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House conservatives lash out at Boehner's 'culture of punishment' (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2015 OP
Are these people teahadists? murielm99 Jun 2015 #1
Said culture is their raison d'etre chapdrum Jun 2015 #2
The Koch Caucus listens only to their Master's Voice. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #3
Um, that culture of punishment is a GOP feature, not a bug. tanyev Jun 2015 #4
Are True Conservatives Ready to Leave the Republican Party? markmyword Jun 2015 #5
This is where the abuse of the language get very confusing Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #6
Discussing their next move? How 'bout they move OUT?????? calimary Jun 2015 #7

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
1. Are these people teahadists?
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jun 2015

I hope Boner has all kinds of troubles with them. They wanted them, let them live with the consequences.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
2. Said culture is their raison d'etre
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jun 2015

Never is their motivation called into question but now, inadvertently and likely to no effect, it has been.
Impose draconian conditions on...nurses? firefighters? teachers? It all passes without comment.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. The Koch Caucus listens only to their Master's Voice.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 05:27 PM
Jun 2015

Remember the Tea Party Caucus, same guys, same corruption, racism, science denial and sheer stupid.

markmyword

(180 posts)
5. Are True Conservatives Ready to Leave the Republican Party?
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jun 2015

I don't know who these conservatives are, but if they're not apart of the teaparty and are true conservatives, then maybe they should switch over to the Democratic Party, split from the Republican party or become Independent.

Conservatives from years past crossed over to vote with Democrats and Democrats did the same and voted with Republicans. They were friends, they socialized together, but today no Republican can fraternize with the enemy.

Before the teaparty, both parties voted for what was good for AMERICA. Today with the teaparty and Koch money in the races they DON'T care about America only their MONEY!!!

I hope these three dozen conservatives have had enough and leave the Republican party or start another Republican party.
The teaparty are crazies who have no business being in government.
Glad that some Republicans are coming to their senses!

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
6. This is where the abuse of the language get very confusing
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jun 2015

It gets even worse when a shifting political reality makes nonsense of words we rely on to guide us.

I don't know what a conservative is any more. For too long, right wing morons like Jesse Helms and Rush Limbaugh have self-identified as conservatives. That's a little bit like describing Lenin as a New Deal Democrat. A conservative used to be a politician who believed in the principles of free enterprise, small government, local control and low taxes. I can embrace some of these principles, too, but I haven't voted for too many Republicans over the years and none since Ronald Reagan announced his candidacy for president. All of those conservative principles had limits, and my limits fell short of where Republicans prior to Reagan's presidency would make them. For example, local control can make government more efficient, but it must remain consistent with democratic principles like one person/one vote and equal protection under the law. Too often, local control was a dog whistle that thinly disguised a desire to return to Jim Crow. Nowadays, local control means excluding poor people from voting and low taxes means no taxes, at least on those who can afford to pay them.

Right wing is the belief in a rigid social hierarchy that is enforced by law. Jim Crow laws in the post-Reconstruction South were right wing, not at all conservative. the social hierarchy may be baseed by one's race, religion, gender or personal wealth. The aforementioned Jim Crow South, the successor to slavery, was based on race, as were post-colonial regimes in South Africa and Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe). Right wingers in the Islamic world would divide society by making Islam, and in particular a fundamentalist version of Islam, the exalted political class; this is also true of right wing Chistians in North America and right wing Islamic fundamentalists in both the Islamic belt and in North America offer women only second class citizenship based on "traditional" roles imposed on women. The most extreme example of a right wing regime was Nazi Germany, which actively attempted to exterminate entire "races" of people, especially Jews.

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