Chinese woman pays to rescue 100 dogs from meat festival: report

[Little Tich]

Source: Yahoo! News / AFP

Yulin (China) (AFP) - A Chinese woman has paid over $1,000 to save 100 canines from being eaten during a dog meat festival, media said, as activists have lashed out at the event labelling it cruel.

Animal-loving Yang Xiaoyun paid about 7,000 yuan (US$1,100) to save around 100 dogs in the southern city of Yulin on Saturday, web portal Netease reported.

The city holds an annual festival devoted to the animal's meat on the summer solstice, which has provoked an increasing backlash from animal protection activists.

Reports said that Yang, 65, plans to rehouse the dogs at her home nearly 2,000 kilometres (124 miles) away in Tianjin.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-woman-pays-rescue-100-dogs-meat-festival-104053981.html

[roody]

1. I am an animal rescuer, but I do not see

the difference between eating cows, pigs, chickens, and/or dogs.

[chernabog]

6. There is no difference at all

[davidpdx]

27. I can't speak to how it is done in China, but I know here in Korea

they are electrocuted. That is much worse than just chopping off the head of a turkey.

I have never seen a dog killed or the meat for sale, but I have gone past restaurants that sell dog meat. They have the live dogs outside in a cage. If you would like, I'd be happy to email pictures of these places to you. There is one about 2 miles from where I work. I happened to be over there and parked my car so I could run an errand and I noticed the restaurants. On my way back I took some pictures from the parking lot which pissed off the owners of the stores even though I was no where near their store and in a private parking lot which I was permitted to be in as a paying customer. Do you know why? They don't want their business publicized because of what they do. Even most Koreans disagree with the practice.

[brooklynite]

30. IS this different than a seafood restaurant with a lobster tank?

[davidpdx]

31. Don't know, never eaten lobster. No lobsters have died at my hands.

Don't like seafood, which makes total sense as I live in Korea.

The caging and electrocution of dogs for meat is inhumane.

[MADem]

32. I have seen that too in SK. Fat, adorable pups in cages. Awful. nt

[davidpdx]

34. I'd post the pictures for those in the thread that seem to think it's not a big deal

but I think I deleted them off my cell phone. I'll be over that way on Friday and might swing by and take pictures again.

[MADem]

35. Those images are upsetting. I've seen it first hand, as well...

Maybe post them offsite and give people the option of clicking on a link.

I feel so sad for them.

[davidpdx]

36. Good idea

I could put them on another site if I do remember to go back and take them. Then again I'm going to be so busy I'll probably forget.

[chernabog]

37. That's terrible

Killing any animal for meat is terrible

[LanternWaste]

55. If, and only if one discounts social mores, then your statement stands.

If, and only if one discounts social mores, then your statement stands.

[davidpdx]

58. Yes, it is a cultural thing. I can accept that, but can not condone the practice.

But at the same time within South Korea it is becoming less accepted among people, especially the younger generation. That's why I think eventually it will become even more rare than it is now.

[840high]

7. The difference is the way

they're killed.

[chernabog]

8. No not really

[840high]

9. Yes, really. Do some research.

[chernabog]

10. I have

[rpannier]

11. actually there is

since the beat the dog senseless as they kill it
There is a huge difference

[mucifer]

22. Pigs and chickens are often tortured their whole lives.

[davidpdx]

28. In Korea it is by electrocution

See post #27

[bhikkhu]

33. I agreed at one time, but disagree now

the difference is the psychology of dogs, which have been bred to be loving and attentive companions to us. Chickens and cows and so forth have been bred to be docile and are fine animals, but for the most part don't care much about us one way or another. I suppose its the difference between killing a stranger and killing someone who trusts you; neither is a good thing to do, but one is worse.

[chernabog]

40. Ignorant statement

[bhikkhu]

49. Yet science supports it

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/02/21/280640267/how-dogs-read-our-moods-emotion-detector-found-in-fidos-brain

and

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201502/can-dogs-recognize-emotions-just-looking-human-face

Much more if you were to study to subject.

There has been a great deal of study on the psychology of dogs. A counter argument might be that there hasn't been much study of the psychology of other animals, but studies of wolves and cats does suggest what we would find. Cats are found to have little neural response or awareness of the moods of their owners. A big difference found between domesticated dogs and their wolf relatives is the ability to form a representational model of the mind of a human - wolves, even those raised by humans, largely lack the capacity. The observed difference is that they "don't care" what we want, they don't pay attention to our faces as much as they lack the neural component to derive information from the human face.

At one time the ability to model the mind of another was considered a uniquely and characteristically human capacity, but it has been demonstrated to be present (though more limited, of course) in dogs. Which is why I would say that killing a dog for food is worse, the difference between killing a stranger and killing someone that wants to be your friend. Both are bad, but one is worse.

[restorefreedom]

56. chickens are capable of feelings and bonding as well

the idea that they are less sentient and sensitive because they haven.t been the traditional companions of humans is marketing bunk perpetrated by the same industry killing them for profit. they want you to THINK chickens, cows and pigs are different so you won t mind eating them.

if you don.t believe me, take a visit sometime to a farmed animal sanctuary. see for yourself the personalities and the love of these animals. you might be surprised.

[7962]

2. The Yulin festival is horrible. Would never be allowed here. nt

[chernabog]

3. What do you call Thanksgiving?

[rpannier]

12. One where they don't bludgeon the turkey because they believe the

adrenaline makes the meat taste better

[chernabog]

13. So the fuck what?

Scores of animals are still dying needlessly, suffering.

[rpannier]

14. Such a witty and clever response

I see your word of the day calendar is paying off

[chernabog]

15. There's nothing clever or witty about my response

Just responding to your ignorant post where you implied that turkeys are killed "better" than dogs.

[rpannier]

16. Never said that

I said the manner in which they are killed was worse
They either string the dog up and let it slowly choke to death while they kill it or they bludgeon the thing in the head, sometimes skinning it while it's still alive
Since you claim to have researched it, you should know that

[chernabog]

17. Do you know how turkeys are killed?

[rpannier]

18. Yes. And it still isn't worse than how the dogs are

It's a nice attempt though, to dodge the issue of the dogs by bringing in other animals
Don't know why you're so invested in protecting the cruel and inhumane killing of dogs, by bringing in the cruel ways turkeys are killed
I could make a few guesses, but I won't

[chernabog]

20. I'm against all animal exploitation

I'm pointing out your hypocrisy. You care about dogs but not about other animals. Am I wrong?

[rpannier]

21. You are wrong

There is nothing in my post that even suggests that I don't care about the plight of other animals and nowhere did I even hint at that
You've chosen to read that
As to your saying you care about animal exploitation, your response of "So, the fuck what?"" speaks volumes in the other direction

[chernabog]

23. My response

Was to your post about how the animals are killed. If they are being killed, it's wrong. And how the turkeys are killed are very similar to the dogs.
So can you tell me if you are for or against animal exploitation?

[JudyM]

19. You both clearly love animals and abhor their suffering... you are on the same side...

as am I...

[restorefreedom]

57. sorry but the same thing happens here

won't go into the details here for people who do not want the details. but way too many cows survive consciously parts of the slaughter where they are supposed to be unconscious. it is beyond horrid and despicable. it is not intentional like at yulin. but it is done through neglect for speed and profit. and the cows suffer just as much. people just decide to turn a blind eye so they don't have to give up their beloved meat

details here *very graphic text*

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum20/HTML/000430.html

[7962]

25. They dont skin the turkeys alive for Thanksgiving. nt

[chernabog]

38. Yeah this isn't terrible or anything

http://www.mercyforanimals.org/hor

[7962]

50. Most of that is illegal, as it should be. Yulin is celebrated.

[chernabog]

51. Illegal or not

It's still happening all over the U.S.

[7962]

54. So are other crimes. We dont allow female circumcision but it happens.

Its a common practice and legal in some countries.
Pointing out that illegal things happen here has nothing to do with stuff that is legal and encouraged elsewhere. Its not "the pot calling the kettle black".

[samsingh]

53. good for the activist to save the dogs. stupid corrupt festival

[midnight]

4. What a great thing this women is doing. We need more people like her.

[restorefreedom]

5. good for her. a true hero for those poor dogs

but the previous poster makes a point. the factory farming industry is horribly cruel as well. we are horrified at what happens there (which is horrific), but many sit down to dinners of slaughtered pigs, cows, and lamb, animals who have similar intelligence, sensitivity, and ability to experience fear and pain as dogs.

the current planetary crisis is probably good news for the animals, since a meat based diet will not be sustainable for much longer if we want to save the earth.

edit.referring to roody's post

[Liberal_in_LA]

24. excellent. poor dogs

[YOHABLO]

26. So is this about being appalled at people eating dog, or happy that they were rescued?

I hope this woman has plenty of room and food to care for these animals. This is why we should insist on knowing where our meat is coming from. Never buy canned meat products, especially from China.

[chernabog]

39. Don't buy meat at all

[Sunlei]

42. yes, and don't wear shoes, use any of the millions of products that use the 'grease' from the render

& have any pets that require meat in their diet.

[chernabog]

43. Agreed

[Sunlei]

44. well, I for one like leather shoes, products from humanely kept domestic livestock & I'd

probably catch the bullets if any cop shot at my 'threatening' barking dog. Because my dogs would place themselves, right in front of me.

domestic livestock, IMO are only the animals that went by 7s onto Noahs' phantom ship

[chernabog]

45. Ok so

You care about dogs but not other animals. As long as you enjoy your leather that's all that really matters.

[Sunlei]

46. what? I care about all animals, even you!

maybe not fire ants

[chernabog]

47. Do you care enough about them

Not to use them?

[Sunlei]

48. how do you do that?

you?

[chernabog]

52. Are you asking me how to not use animal products?

[davidpdx]

29. I think what she did was great

Personally if we were able to find her I'd be happy to find 10 people to chip in $10 a piece to pay her kindness back. I'm sure feeding the dogs is expensive.

[Sunlei]

41. I hope she has support and help from other kind souls

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

59. So the festival vendors had to get on the phone real quick ...

... to order up another 100 dogs.

The show must go on.

[Beauregard]

60. There's nothing like some baked dog...

with fava beans and a good chianti!