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riversedge

(70,220 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:44 AM Jun 2015

10 shot, 1 fatally, at block party in Detroit

Source: usatoday.com






Cassandra Spratling, Detroit Free Press 10:48 p.m. EDT June 20, 2015
MICHIGAN


DETROIT — Ten people were shot, one fatally, at a block party on a basketball court on Detroit westside Saturday night.

Police said they do not know the motive and are still investigating.

At least three of the victims who were shot were women, ages 30, 45, and 26.

Assistant Police Chief Steve Dolunt said may children were present and it's a miracle none was shot.

As of late Saturday, police had not identified the person who was killed......................

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/20/shot-fatally-block-party-detroit/29060489/

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10 shot, 1 fatally, at block party in Detroit (Original Post) riversedge Jun 2015 OP
Wow. What is going on? So many of these in the past few days. C Moon Jun 2015 #1
Confederate flags Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #2
so Skittles Jun 2015 #3
you certainly can Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #5
IT WOULD BE A START Skittles Jun 2015 #7
It's actually about eliminating cultural bedrock of racial violence but whatever. Chan790 Jun 2015 #13
That "piece of shit" is not going 840high Jun 2015 #27
neither will a swastika, but I would prefer not to see one Skittles Jun 2015 #31
You're not allowed to refer to cultural problems, 7962 Jun 2015 #11
Fictional rules do allow us to get more comfortable on the crosses we construct for ourselves... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #32
So eloquent! If it only actually meant something! 7962 Jun 2015 #33
good definition DustyJoe Jun 2015 #15
yeah, the flag isn't much of an issue in the Detroit or Phili shootings this weekend nt Bacchus4.0 Jun 2015 #16
What's going on is that every single day of the year SheilaT Jun 2015 #9
+1 C Moon Jun 2015 #17
You gotta like it when ManiacJoe Jun 2015 #4
Almost like they think the police can't or won't protect them from reprisal. bluedigger Jun 2015 #12
Or, more likely, that the cops are a part of it and possibly even the perpetrators harrose Jun 2015 #25
If the cops did the shooting, there'd be no shortage of witnesses or video JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #36
You are clueless romanic Jun 2015 #37
Gotta Love It....When USA Today Can't Report the Story.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #6
"assistant chief is fuming that no one is talking"="not being cooperative" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #8
Some only read what they want to see. Amazes me 7962 Jun 2015 #10
Allow me. bluedigger Jun 2015 #14
yep 840high Jun 2015 #28
Praise Jeebus they had their god-given right to carry a gun! valerief Jun 2015 #18
Bet those guns weren't legal. 840high Jun 2015 #29
Why?? DreamSmoker Jun 2015 #19
Plus Black on Black crime gets little attention nationally madville Jun 2015 #20
It isn't necessarily black on black crime Abouttime Jun 2015 #21
More than likely drugs are involved Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #26
I'd wager that a higher percentage of whites own guns than blacks nt 7962 Jun 2015 #34
I've gotten blasted romanic Jun 2015 #22
Black lives matter XemaSab Jun 2015 #23
Sad truth. romanic Jun 2015 #24
xactly 840high Jun 2015 #30
Because they get accused of blaming the victims. 7962 Jun 2015 #35
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
2. Confederate flags
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:19 AM
Jun 2015

at least that's the impression I'm getting from the issue prioritization I'm seeing around here

clearly the problem could not be the "violence is a solution" cultural theme this country has adopted like a fucking religion

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
3. so
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:40 AM
Jun 2015

Last edited Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:58 PM - Edit history (1)

people cannot be both sickened by gun violence AND that piece of SHIT flag?

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
5. you certainly can
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:48 AM
Jun 2015

but in choosing what to focus on, choosing the latter is a strategy guaranteed to get zero results at best, and a backlash-revival at worst, and even if it disappears from the face of the earth tomorrow it won't do a damn thing to solve the actual problems

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
13. It's actually about eliminating cultural bedrock of racial violence but whatever.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:28 AM
Jun 2015

The flag is a symbol of a culture with its foundations in violence and racism which acts as a beacon to all of these nutjobs...a critical step of ending this US culture of racial violence is the destruction of the symbols of that culture. Germany had the right idea when they suppressed display of or support for the ideals of their defeated violent racist regime. Now we live in a country with freedom-of-speech and that is prized...but nobody ever promised anybody that they would not be looked down upon, reviled or denied social acceptance for the content of that speech.

SC wants to keep their racist flag...that's up to them. They should hold no expectations that the rest of us are going to respect them or their flag; I would expect that they should expect an increase in the sale of their state flag and lighter fluid. I'm pretty sure those shitty nylon reproductions burn as if they were made out of oil. (Actually, they are. Nylon is a petrodistillate synthetic fiber.)

Likewise, the assholes throughout the South can cling to their racist Confederate culture...but I think the rest of us should be a hell of a lot less accepting of it. Perhaps if we all openly told them what assholes they are for flying the "Stars and Bars" and whistling Dixie; made it clear that we will not associate with them and consider affirmation, idolization and nostalgia of that culture to be inherently racist and anti-American; that we will not allow our children to associate with them, that we view them based on the contents of their hearts to be terrible people, that we will never stop viewing them and the flag they stand for as enemies and traitorous...if we all made an effort towards being less accepting of contemporary Confederacy idolization; that we view it as exactly analogous to Nazism and it's supporters as Nazis...perhaps then it would finally die.

The Confederacy lost. Its leaders were racists and traitors guilty of treason, racial violence and oppression. To continue to support the Confederacy today is to condone the cultural roots of the Confederacy in ways that the rest of us have no obligation to legitimate by not opposing at every chance.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. You're not allowed to refer to cultural problems,
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:06 AM
Jun 2015

that makes you a target here. "Blaming the victim" and such.
I'm gonna go ahead out on a limb here and speculate that the shooter/s were not legal gun owners with no record.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. Fictional rules do allow us to get more comfortable on the crosses we construct for ourselves...
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jun 2015

"You're not allowed to refer to cultural problems..."

Fictional rules do allow us to get more comfortable on the crosses we construct for ourselves. Might I suggest cardboard rather than wood for yours (fewer splinters, you see)...?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
33. So eloquent! If it only actually meant something!
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jun 2015

Truth hurts. Around here it seems to hurt worse for some reason

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
15. good definition
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jun 2015

'violence is a solution' thinking is as good a cultural definition as any

The past 4 weeks

Memorial weekend chicago 56 shot 12 dead
detroit birthday party 10 shot 1 killed
philly block party 9 shot
charleston 9 dead

so 84 people shot, 22 deaths at parties, walking the street or just trying to worship at a church.

a culture of violence is an apt definition,

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. What's going on is that every single day of the year
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:14 AM
Jun 2015

people are killed by guns in this country. Most such shootings are just local stories, but when someone shoots a bunch of people all at once it tends to become national news.

In other words, nothing to see here. Just another day in America.

harrose

(380 posts)
25. Or, more likely, that the cops are a part of it and possibly even the perpetrators
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:19 PM
Jun 2015

Wouldn't surprise me given how cops feel they can kill people of color with impunity these days.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
36. If the cops did the shooting, there'd be no shortage of witnesses or video
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jun 2015

This was more likely a gang member doing the shooting.

And a warning of "no snitching".

Nobody wants to be a target. The cops are pretty good at drawing chalk outlines around bodies, not so good at protection.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
6. Gotta Love It....When USA Today Can't Report the Story....
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 04:38 AM
Jun 2015

From the Ground, so they "Make Things Up".

From WDIV Channel 4 - DETROIT:

A man is dead and nine other people were hurt in a shooting at a block party on Detroit's west side.

About 400 people were at the party enjoying some barbecue and a basketball game Saturday night at Dexter Avenue and Webb Street.

Detroit police don't know if the incident was a drive-by shooting or if someone approached the party, but seven men and three women were shot. Police believe most of them had nothing to do with the gunfight.

The homicide victim, a man who would have turned 21 this year, was shot multiple times. One other person was listed in critical condition.

Witnesses said they grabbed their children and ran for their lives. A stroller and a child's overturned chair were left behind after the deadly shooting. A deflated bounce house sat in one corner as Detroit police combed through the basketball court.

Detroit police believe two weapons were involved and that one man may have been the intended target. The semi-automatic guns have not been recovered and the assistant chief is fuming that no one is talking.

Detroit police are asking for anyone with information to call 313-596-1616.

Watch Local 4 and stay with ClickonDetroit.com for updates on this developing story.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/shooting-at-detroit-block-party/33693190


Amazingly, nothing what-so-ever about the witnesses, "Not being cooperative". Just amazing....

And by the way, the Confederate Flag still need to be #TakenDownImmediately in South Carolina as it is a #SymbolOfHate.

Justice for the 9, Standing with the Charleston 9, Standing with the AME Family!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
8. "assistant chief is fuming that no one is talking"="not being cooperative"
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 05:19 AM
Jun 2015

Both articles have that. So which did you think was missing it?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
10. Some only read what they want to see. Amazes me
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jun 2015

Dont want to point the finger of blame at who/what is REALLY responsible!!

DreamSmoker

(841 posts)
19. Why??
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jun 2015
So why is it this story gets very little attention????

Because its in Detroit...

Six decades in Detroit: How abandonment, racial tensions and financial missteps bankrupted the city..

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20131004/METRO01/310040001

madville

(7,410 posts)
20. Plus Black on Black crime gets little attention nationally
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jun 2015

The majority of shootings in this country are Black people trying to shoot other Black people, it happens 40-50 times a year in the city of 1 million I live in, barely gets mentioned the day it happens.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
21. It isn't necessarily black on black crime
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 04:51 PM
Jun 2015

It's the guns. The guns come from the gun makers and gun dealers, these people are 99.99% white and 90%+ conservative. The guns aren't manufactured and sold in the inner cities or the rural south. In other words there is a segment of white right wing society that has a vested interest in seeing guns in black communities. It's the same thing with cigarettes, booze and shitty fast food...think menthol cigarettes, malt liquor and mcfood.
Face it, black misery is big business to white conservatives. If that isn't racism I don't know what is.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
22. I've gotten blasted
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:34 PM
Jun 2015

for making a mention of "black-on-black" crime, basically being accused of spewing Republican "memes". True, the right-wingers like to point out the violence in black communities as some kind of "aha" moment or whatever; but honestly I feel like black on black violence SHOULD be talked about more. It sickens me that it's looked at as "normal" in local and national media; it's part of what feeds racists and conservatives to fear black people and to make others fear them too. IMO black-on-black crimes need attention, to show the pain of it's victims and it's toll on inner cities and it's youth especially.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
23. Black lives matter
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 10:08 PM
Jun 2015

Blacks who are murdered by other blacks aren't news, and they aren't treated like they matter.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
24. Sad truth.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 10:55 PM
Jun 2015

And whenever there's an outcry of grief by the local community regarding black-on-black murders, it's rarely given a whiff of attention by the local/national media.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
35. Because they get accused of blaming the victims.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 01:34 PM
Jun 2015

It certainly happens here. You bring up anything and you're accused of being a racist. Dont know how many more years whites can be blamed for what goes on in some black communities

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