De Blasio says he will not endorse Hillary Clinton until she clearly opposes Trans-Pacific Partnersh
Source: New York Daily News
Mayor de Blasio, who has said he wont endorse Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton until hes convinced shes got a plan to battle income inequality, is now calling on his old boss to speak out against a controversial trade deal.
Hizzoner said Thursday hes looking for a very clear statement from Clinton opposing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which is loathed by the left but being pushed by President Obama.
I think its very important she speak up, make clear . . . that this trade deal is unacceptable, de Blasio said on a phone call he held with reporters blasting the deal.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/de-blasio-not-back-hillary-opposes-trade-deal-article-1.2255489
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Well played, Bill!
BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)Seems DeBlasio is devoting a lot of, um, feeling, to this issue and is intent on a rupture. I don't really see the point, especially when he's getting pounded pretty regularly in the NY press for his performance as mayor.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)So, do you favor the TPP?
Bernie Sanders
Defeat the Trans-Pacific Partnership
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/video-audio/defeat-the-trans-pacific-partnership
Martin O'Malley
OMalley Joins Sanders Against TPP Fast Track. Wheres Clinton?
http://ourfuture.org/20150604/omalley-joins-sanders-against-tpp-fast-track-wheres-clinton
Hillary Clinton
{This space for rent}
BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)I'm with Krugman.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)Im thumbs down. I dont think the proposal is likely to be the terrible, worker-destroying pact some progressives assert, but it doesnt look like a good thing either for the world or for the United States, and you have to wonder why the Obama administration, in particular, would consider devoting any political capital to getting this through. . . .
So why do some parties want this deal so much? Because as with many trade deals in recent years, the intellectual property aspects are more important than the trade aspects. Leaked documents suggest that the US is trying to get radically enhanced protection for patents and copyrights; this is largely about Hollywood and pharma rather than conventional exporters.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/22/opinion/paul-krugman-trade-and-trust.html
I dont know why the president has chosen to make the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership such a policy priority. Still, there is an argument to be made for such a deal, and some reasonable, well-intentioned people are supporting the initiative.
But other reasonable, well-intentioned people have serious questions about whats going on. And I would have expected a good-faith effort to answer those questions. . . .
Instead of addressing real concerns, however, the Obama administration has been dismissive, trying to portray skeptics as uninformed hacks who dont understand the virtues of trade. But theyre not: the skeptics have on balance been more right than wrong about issues like dispute settlement, and the only really hackish economics Ive seen in this debate is coming from supporters of the trade pact.
Its really disappointing and disheartening to see this kind of thing from a White House that has, as I said, been quite forthright on other issues. And the fact that the administration evidently doesnt feel that it can make an honest case for the Trans-Pacific Partnership suggests that this isnt a deal we should support.
BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)Real End Times stuff, isn't it?
He's basically saying, mention "Trade Deal," and everyone on all sides of the issue is terminally prone to exaggeration. I agree with him.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Renew Deal
(81,879 posts)It could cost the liberal/progressive movement big if he's the model of "progressive" governance. This is no small problem. He needs to stop touring the nation and pay attention to NYC. Right now most people believe that crime is rising. He made a big decision on the issue and he will take the blame if it goes wrong.
BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)but this is reminiscent of how Giuliani Time happened. I don't see an exact repeat because the city is still a lot safer than it was, but he is already looking vulnerable. When you start seeing stories about how he can't make a meeting on time and is generally irritating a lot of people (who don't even stand by him with votes after they've been appointed by him), the writing starts to appear on the wall.
ananda
(28,879 posts)DeBlasio should be praised and appreciated for speaking
out against the TPP and challenging Clinton to do the same.
You two are really poisoning the well here with your anti-
DeBlasio red herring.
The people need outspoken voices to represent their interests,
and DeBlasio is one of those.
The TPP is a bad business, harmful on so many levels to so
many people.
Thank the Mayor and get on with your business if you have
any human decency!
BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)Come to NYC and ask the average voter what they think of DeBlasio's noble anti-TPP stand.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)Pathetic deflection attempt noted.
Here's an NYT article on his struggles with the black community. Maybe that works better for you:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/18/nyregion/black-leaders-showing-signs-of-frustration-with-mayor-de-blasio.html?_r=0
He has a very tough job. A public fight with HRC, who, believe it or not, is mostly popular here, over a trade deal that no one on the streets is talking about doesn't speak to his day job issues.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)why not just defend the source?
And you can call it a "pathetic deflection attempt" if you want to, you have my unneeded permission. I would simply say that it's an accurate statement.
And yes he has a very tough job, make worse by the fact that any honest on his part will apparently create enemies out of 'allies'.
BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)The source doesn't need defending on it.
Go ahead, debunk it.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The article is about the Panel for Educational Policy. De Blasio appoints eight of its thirteen members. The slam here is that the Panel defeated a particular proposal that he favored.
If the idea were to give the Mayor complete control, then the law could simply say that such a proposal needs the Mayor's approval. Instead, there's a panel, to which he and other officials appoint members.
I guess some politicians would pick, as their appointees, a collection of warm bodies who would dutifully do as ordered. Instead, de Blasio appointed people who take their responsibilities seriously, who study the matters they're voting on, and who sometimes come to different conclusions than de Blasio does.
Call me crazy but I don't have a problem with that.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)appoint qualified people to panels and commissions instead of lackeys.
As for De Blasio, he seems to have a good reputation in Northern New York and unlike what we are led to believe about NYC, Northern New York is very concerned about the TPP and we are indeed talking about it.
Gloria
(17,663 posts)That reportedly will harken back to FDR...Sounds like a big baby who have the GOP drooling with glee.
Completely turning me off.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Gloria
(17,663 posts)Hillary has no vote on this....She can take her time. This is a long race. Let's see what her "vision" speech is about...
Harkening back to FDR is a different move...reintroducing generations who don't know a thing about FDR. She's going to do things
in her typical pragmatic way. That's a backdrop for a lot of policy that will be forthcoming...
You do realize that we are all fighting Republicans, don't you?? And that no candidate is pure, even Bernie on gun control...Or O'Malley in Baltimore??
We don't have the luxury of being one-issue voters who will slam any candidate on any issue one disagrees with... Discuss, yes, but taking your ball and going home is no way to win an election.
Really, that comment was useless...
frylock
(34,825 posts)claiming that it's okay for Clinton to remain silent on trade agreements because she has no vote is preposterous.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)brooklynite
(94,751 posts)...De Blasio actually isn't that popular in the City these days.
Mayor Bill de Blasios approval ratings are the lowest theyve been since he was elected mayor, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll.
Just 44 percent of voters give Mr. de Blasios job performance a thumbs up, down from 49 percent in January. 40 percent disapprove of him.
Voters were also split on whether Mr. de Blasios involvement in national affairs, including his trips this week to Washington, D.C. and California, are distracting from his duties at City Hall. 46 percent say they are distracting, while 42 percent disagreejust outside the polls margin of error.
Mr. de Blasio has taken some criticism for venturing beyond the five boroughs so frequently.
http://observer.com/2015/05/bill-de-blasios-approval-ratings-are-the-lowest-they-have-ever-been/
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)brooklynite
(94,751 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Renew Deal
(81,879 posts)If he spent half as much time governing as he does grandstanding around the country he might be a little more popular right now. A dirty secret for those outside of NY is that his poll numbers stink. Hillary will win NYC by margins that Deblasio couldn't dream of.
ananda
(28,879 posts)The issue is the TPP and its horrific adverse affect on workers
and the poor, here and across the world.
DeBlasio should be lauded to the skies for speaking out against
it and challenging Clinton to do the same!
Mounting an ad hominem attack on the person who speaks out
against it is really low.
You could play limbo under a snake.
Renew Deal
(81,879 posts)The story is about Deblasio. This is another example of Deblasio commenting on issues he has no jurisdiction over. It's become a recurring theme in NY. People in NY want to see him comment on crime, education, infrastructure, etc.
The reason he keeps doing this with Hillary is he wants to get his name out there. It's the same reason he's constantly on tour.
frylock
(34,825 posts)have you forgotten that these people work for US?
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Lol, first time I hear that one.
ananda
(28,879 posts)I wish more people would speak out against this
monstrous TPP!
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)Refusing to use her influence to kill this POS tells me everything I need to know about HRC...
ananda
(28,879 posts)raindaddy
(1,370 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)mayor in doing this.
TPP is NOT a big issue in NYC other than in the media circles. You don't see people in Astoria or Crown Heights or Harlem taking to the streets over TPP.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)She will not oppose the TPP and undermine her corporate support and the support from President Obama in the general election (if she wins).
Feron
(2,063 posts)She won't oppose it because she is a kleptocrat like the rest of them.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Near the end there's this:
"De Blasio declined to say whether Clintons support for the deal would be a deal breaker in terms of his endorsement."
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)If she's the nominee and he withholds his endorsement, it will only hurt him. He knows that and is hedging.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Many here think this is bad for Hillary.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)Unfortunately given Hillary's record she is unlikely to say that and even less likely to do it