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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:18 PM Jun 2015

Country Singer Randy Howard Killed in Gunfight With Bounty Hunter

Source: AP/Billboard

Authorities say country singer Randy Howard has been killed in a gunfight with a bounty hunter trying to detain him.

Several media outlets report the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is looking into the Tuesday night shooting of 65-year-old Howard in Lynchburg, Tennessee. Howard has performed with country music stars Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings. In 1983, his album All-American Redneck hit No. 41 on the Top Country Albums chart, while the title track went to No. 84 on Hot Country Songs. He also hit that singles chart in 1988, landing at No. 66 with his take on Johnny Cash's "Ring of Fire."

TBI spokesman Josh DeVine says the bounty hunter showed up at Howard's home to take him into custody for missing a court appearance. Devine said Howard opened fire, the bounty hunter shot back and Howard was killed.

DeVine said the bounty hunter was trying to detain Howard on a warrant charging him with fourth-offense DUI, possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of a firearm while intoxicated and driving on a revoked license.

Read more: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/country/6597744/randy-howard-dead-bounty-hunter



Oh, gunny gunny gun gun guns....
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Country Singer Randy Howard Killed in Gunfight With Bounty Hunter (Original Post) onehandle Jun 2015 OP
"Bounty hunters." What year is this again? Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2015 #1
These are really bail bondsmen PSPS Jun 2015 #5
Dead was just fine in Django lobodons Jun 2015 #10
From when I lived in Arizona: marble falls Jun 2015 #11
informative n/t Psephos Jun 2015 #12
do they get the bounty? how much was it? quadrature Jun 2015 #2
So much for keeping a gun in your house for self-defense from Cleita Jun 2015 #3
Guns are not magic talismans; there is no guaranty. ManiacJoe Jun 2015 #20
If there hadn't been two guns, there wouldn't have been a gunfight. eom Cleita Jun 2015 #21
So, which guy do you want to disarm? ManiacJoe Jun 2015 #22
Both. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #27
I'm sorry to hear of his death. It looks like Howard was suffering from addiction and needed help LynneSin Jun 2015 #4
All he had to do is show up to the courtroom. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #16
That's easy to do when you are sober LynneSin Jun 2015 #17
Even an alcoholic can go to meetings. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #18
Even half-wits can speak of that which they know little of... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #28
Yes, and some with high intellect Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #30
One would think he could manage it. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2015 #32
Wanted Dead or Alive. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #6
Dead apparently is just fine... what a great country we have these days... nt winstars Jun 2015 #7
Live by the gun, die by the gun. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #8
Yahoos and gunz just don't mix. Hoyt Jun 2015 #9
Has to be a song in there. Somewhere dembotoz Jun 2015 #13
Bon Jovi got you covered. Frank Cannon Jun 2015 #14
Thug music. nt RandiFan1290 Jun 2015 #15
Warning...don't be a criminal. ileus Jun 2015 #19
Bounty hunters are known to break into wrong house and kill innocent people peacebird Jun 2015 #26
Bounty hunters are not above the law. ManiacJoe Jun 2015 #31
Tamir Rice should have heeded your words of wisdom... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #29
Sad this guy was killed, but the bounty hunter appears justified in his actions. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #23
The Second Amendment clearly makes us all bounty hunters. onehandle Jun 2015 #24
It appears you have no sympathies, one way or another. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #25

PSPS

(13,620 posts)
5. These are really bail bondsmen
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:47 PM
Jun 2015

Some like to use the "bounty hunter" moniker because they think it has more cache or gravitas. If they put up the bond (usually for a 10% fee, the rest on collateral) and the person skips, the bondsman has to either produce the defendant or pay up the whole bond. Theoretically, they're supposed to have enough collateral to cover the bond (usually a car, house, etc.,) but liquidating it is a hassle, they never get everything, and their own bond insurance or standing can get cancelled which puts them out of business.

If they kill someone like this, they don't get any "bounty." What happens is that they lose 90% of the bond they put up.

I know a lot of these guys and only a few carry guns if they have to collect someone. I think there used to be a reality show along these lines which was like "Cops," except you rode along with them trying to pick up a skipper. One of the guys I know was featured in that. They really played it up to look all militaristic and macho, as usual but, like all reality shows, it isn't the way they portray it at all.

marble falls

(57,333 posts)
11. From when I lived in Arizona:
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_gist/1997/09/bounty_hunters.html

Bounty Hunters

By Franklin Foer
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Last month, five armed bounty hunters forced their way into a Phoenix home, shooting and killing two occupants. In another recent case, Kansas City, Mo., bounty hunters broke into the wrong home and put three bullets in an innocent man. These stories portray bounty hunters as thugs who are beyond the law. What is a bounty hunter? What legal powers do bounty hunters have? Whence do they derive those powers?

Bounty hunters work for bail-bondsmen. They are dispatched to capture defendants in criminal cases who have skipped bail posted by bail-bondsmen. About 40 percent of all criminal defendants are released on bail, a cash deposit that is forfeited to the court if the defendant fails to appear before the judge as promised. Defendants who can't afford bail often hire the services of a private bail-bond agency to front the cash. The bondsman's fee is usually 10 percent of the bail, with defendants putting up collateral for the remainder.
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Last year, more than 33,000 defendants posted bail and then skipped their court date. Most bail-jumpers face charges on drug-related crimes, violent offenses, or theft. The most popular bail-jumper destinations are warm-weather spots (Southern California and south Florida) and big cities (Chicago and New York City). Most skips stay within the United States--avoiding passport-control agents, who are trained to spot them.

In most states, a bondsman must return the skip within a year of the missed court date to recover his deposit. Few bail-bondsmen keep bounty hunters on the payroll for liability reasons, choosing instead to pay the bounty hunters the standard fee of 10 percent of the bond. Bounty hunters (who prefer to call themselves "recovery agents&quot are paid only after the skip is returned to custody and the bail-bondsman gets his deposit back from the court. In most states bounty hunters are unregulated. (Bail-bondsmen, on the other hand, are licensed and regulated by all states, and in many jurisdictions must carry liability and general operating insurance.)

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The rest of the article is interesting.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
3. So much for keeping a gun in your house for self-defense from
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:33 PM
Jun 2015

home intruders. It seems that didn't go so well.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
4. I'm sorry to hear of his death. It looks like Howard was suffering from addiction and needed help
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:36 PM
Jun 2015

I know we would want to say this is another death because of gun violence but to me I see this as another death probably because of our messed up drug laws. Mr Howard probably didn't have the means to get help for himself and found himself in a dead end path of addiction. I hope that the afterlife finds peace for him.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
16. All he had to do is show up to the courtroom.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 09:23 AM
Jun 2015

He had problems, yes, but he should have gone to his court appearance.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
28. Even half-wits can speak of that which they know little of...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jun 2015

Even half-wits can speak of that which they know little of...

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
26. Bounty hunters are known to break into wrong house and kill innocent people
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:06 PM
Jun 2015

Sucks to be the innocent person, or their family, because these 'people' are above the law.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
31. Bounty hunters are not above the law.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jun 2015

They do not possess any extra legal powers than a normal citizen.
Busting into the wrong house often gets them shot, as one would expect of any armed intruder.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. Tamir Rice should have heeded your words of wisdom...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jun 2015

Tamir Rice should have heeded your words of wisdom...

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
24. The Second Amendment clearly makes us all bounty hunters.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jun 2015

Excuse me. Gotta go hunt me some jaywalkers.






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