Same-sex marriage opt out now law after veto override (NC)

[G_j]

Source: WRAL.com

RALEIGH, N.C. — With no warning and no debate allowed, the House voted Thursday morning to override Gov. Pat McCrory's veto of Senate Bill 2, allowing magistrates and county register of deeds employees to opt out of performing marriages for religious reasons.

The veto override has been on the House calendar for more than a week, but House Republican leaders did not have the needed votes – three-fifths of the members present must approve an override for it to take effect – until Thursday.

With 110 members present and voting, the override required 66 votes. The final vote was 69-41.

The Senate overrode the veto last week, so the measure now becomes law.

Senate Bill 2 is intended to allow magistrates and register of deeds office staffers who object to same-sex marriage to refuse to perform any marriages. The workers don't have to opt out in advance – he or she can refuse to serve a couple at the time they go to obtain a marriage license or go before the bench for a civil wedding – and the worker opting out would then be barred from performing all marriages for at least six months.




Read more: http://www.wral.com/same-sex-marriage-opt-out-now-law-after-veto-override/14705339/

[shenmue]

1. Uhhhh boy

[littlewolf]

2. who didn't see this coming?

when this was first reported here on DU
I asked the question of the likelihood
of an override .. we have the answer.

[Roland99]

4. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise

[longship]

3. My gosh! What is wrong with these idiots?

I swear. When SCOTUS rules in favor of marriage equality -- there's no way that Kennedy votes with the conservatives -- the GOP is going to show their native character with no veil. There will be little doubt about how fucking barking mad they all are.

Is it time to bang my head yet again this soon?

[cosmicone]

5. I think the SCOTUS vote will be a landslide and not dependent on Kennedy

I think it will be 8:1 -- even Scalia wouldn't want legalized bigotry to be his legacy. The only one voting against marriage equality will be Clarence Thomas who has no positive legacy and thus nothing to lose.

[bunnies]

6. Can we just have the supreme court ruling on this shit already.

My blood pressure cant take this anymore.

[nichomachus]

7. How to combat this

Bring someone with you who can perform the ceremony. Then, do it right in the county office in front of the people who object.

However, that would be a political statement, and I would prefer to be married in a more supportive environment. Do you really want to be married by some sweaty, moon-faced, crypto Klan member? And then eat cake made by his equally sweaty, moon-faced, crypto Klan member brother?

[cntrygrl]

8. OMG, the visuals on that is making me ill but.

you're correct. And I foresee a lot of trouble.

[Zorra]

11. I am an ordained minister, ordained by the Universal Life Church,

and became a minister just so I could perform weddings for LGBT people facing problems from conservative bigots and conservative bigot laws.

[Hepburn]

9. This is bullshit

Sooooooo...for religious reasons, some can opt out of equal treatment?

Seems to applies to gay people only. This is wrong, just plain wrong.

[starroute]

10. That seems like an open invitation to game the system

Say you're a gay couple. You go before one magistrate who is known to be anti-gap and ask to receive a marriage license. They refuse, thereby taking themself out of commission for six months. So you move on to the next, who also refuses. If you finally come up with one who does issue the license, you move on to asking for your wedding to be performed. Eliminate a few more. Maybe that takes so long that the license expires and you have to start the process over. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Get a large number of couples in on this and pretty soon you have a lot of happily married gay couples and a lot of bigots who can't marry anyone.

[Bradical79]

13. Yes, though still sad

Sad that a political statement would have to be part of the marriage rather than just being able to have a happy ceremony and marriage license as part of the routine like everyone else.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

12. Sure, they have the right to opt out - by resigning. Or jailtime. That's how it should work!