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kpete

(72,018 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 12:57 PM Jun 2015

Murder charge dropped against woman who induced abortion

Source: MSN

Murder charge dropped against woman who induced abortion

A Georgia prosecutor dropped a murder charge Wednesday against a 23-year-old woman whose arrest after taking pills to end her pregnancy baffled even abortion opponents.

Dougherty County District Attorney Greg Edwards issued a statement saying he had dismissed a malice murder charge against 23-year-old Kenlissia Jones, who spent about three days in jail before she was released. But Edwards said Jones still faces a misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous drug.

Abortion-rights advocates and opponents of abortion alike had said they were stunned by the murder charge. Georgia has prohibited the prosecution of women for feticide or for performing illegal abortions in cases involving their own pregnancies. After reviewing the law, Edwards said he reached the same conclusion.

"Georgia law presently does not permit prosecution of Ms. Jones for any alleged acts related to the end of her pregnancy," the prosecutor's statement said. He planned a news conference later Wednesday afternoon.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-charge-dropped-against-woman-who-induced-abortion/ar-BBkRkbH

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Murder charge dropped against woman who induced abortion (Original Post) kpete Jun 2015 OP
Good!!!nt newfie11 Jun 2015 #1
seeing that she broke no law why was she even arrested in the first place? azurnoir Jun 2015 #2
Yep newfie11 Jun 2015 #3
+10000 azurnoir Jun 2015 #4
She should have never been charged in the first place (nt) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2015 #5
That emphasis-added word is chilling. presently ... LiberalAndProud Jun 2015 #6
This one had reached "fetus" stage, but it was still Ilsa Jun 2015 #7
I noticed that, too. Made me wonder - what his plans are for the future. calimary Jun 2015 #12
^^This ^^ LittleGirl Jun 2015 #18
I love you. LiberalAndProud Jun 2015 #23
I was having a rough day LittleGirl Jun 2015 #24
And me, too, LittleGirl. Both of 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #25
True. eom LittleGirl Jun 2015 #27
Me too...I dont know which cause pisses me off more that we STILL have to argue about it, this randys1 Jun 2015 #28
I thought the same thing! They aim to fix this, I bet! secondwind Jun 2015 #19
Very chilling. lark Jun 2015 #8
It's all about scaring and harassing women. Ilsa Jun 2015 #9
Sounds like they will charge her for possessing the drug. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #17
I'm sure the GA legislature will jump right on this.. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #10
exactly. There's no law criminalizing it **presently** BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #14
Rand Paul has made that clear with every single bill he's tried to add in 'personhood.' freshwest Jun 2015 #29
Someday, if Rand gets his way, the fetus will trample all over Rand's rights. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #30
hooo boy, my blood pressure's up alright! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #32
"Georgia law presently does not permit prosecution of Ms. Jones for any alleged acts related to the Javaman Jun 2015 #11
They need to stop the propaganda awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #13
But you've all been warned. .... n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #15
Wonderful how a personal decision got her name and face all over the media dembotoz Jun 2015 #16
Glad to hear it. The remaining charges should also be dropped. closeupready Jun 2015 #20
Wow. A moment of sanity. CanonRay Jun 2015 #21
hell, even the anti-abortion folks should be happy with this.... dhill926 Jun 2015 #22
Notice that she is black? BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #26
Republicans....really hate women.... Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #31

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
6. That emphasis-added word is chilling. presently ...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jun 2015

chilling as in dripping icicles terrifying.

I don't understand why a zygote should have legal protections ever, even if such a ludicrous idea is crystal clear for those who lean to the right of my political perspective.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
7. This one had reached "fetus" stage, but it was still
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jun 2015

Nonviable. No one but the mother show have anything to say about zygotes or fetuses.

calimary

(81,488 posts)
12. I noticed that, too. Made me wonder - what his plans are for the future.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:43 PM
Jun 2015

Sounds like a qualifying statement - "well, FOR NOW we don't prosecute... but... "

WHEN ARE WE GONNA REVERSE THIS SHIT, GUYS???????

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calimary

(81,488 posts)
25. And me, too, LittleGirl. Both of 'em.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:14 PM
Jun 2015

I'm even considering making up my own version of that sign. There will likely be opportunities to use it in the future.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
28. Me too...I dont know which cause pisses me off more that we STILL have to argue about it, this
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:30 PM
Jun 2015

or Gay rights.

Me too...I am right there with you.


lark

(23,156 posts)
8. Very chilling.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:02 PM
Jun 2015


Sounds like he wants GA to have a law that women can't have chemical abortions, which is patently absurd. These pills only work on very very early pregnancies, these are not fully formed fetuses, are not a person. These pills are perscribed by a physician, how the fuck is GA going to make taking these totally legal pills an offense?

There's nothing I hate more than Repug politicians, they are the bane of this country.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
9. It's all about scaring and harassing women.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:04 PM
Jun 2015

At most, they could have charged her with something having to do with possession or obtaining the cytotec. I'm thrilled they have bupkes though. Women will be doing mail order pharmacological abortions since so many clinics are closing.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
17. Sounds like they will charge her for possessing the drug.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jun 2015

But Edwards said Jones still faces a misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous drug.

mountain grammy

(26,655 posts)
10. I'm sure the GA legislature will jump right on this..
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:14 PM
Jun 2015

as they ignore the multiple problems in their state. Can't have this little loophole that allows women to make their own decisions.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
14. exactly. There's no law criminalizing it **presently**
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jun 2015

But he's champing at the bit to get that done.


Fucking hell, talk about second class citizenship...women are having their PERSONHOOD stolen.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
29. Rand Paul has made that clear with every single bill he's tried to add in 'personhood.'
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:32 PM
Jun 2015

You are RIGHT about women's PERSONHOOD being stolen.

Rand has pushed this since his few days in office, and it's getting more conservative support. If his proposed laws fail again, he wants to 'reform' the 14th Amendment to 'redefine what a person is,' to give the unborn all the Constitutional rights of a person. More than that of the mother.

Rand Paul Calls For Personhood Law To End Abortion ‘Once And For All’

by David Badash on November 26, 2012

Paul claims “Congress has the power to legislatively end Roe v. Wade,” which is stunning, since no law can overrule a Supreme Court verdict; only a constitutional amendment can — but that’s not what Paul is advocating.

U.S. Senator Rand Paul, a Tea Party favorite, is advocating for Congress to make a new law, a “personhood” law, called the LIfe at Conception Act,” establishing that human life begins at conception, and extending the 14th Amendment to all fetuses.

Paul in the audio message calls law “legal mumbo jumbo,” yet tells supporters, “we in Congress have the right to legally define when life begins,” regardless of what the truth is:




http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/rand-paul-calls-for-personhood-law-to-end-abortion-once-and-for-all/politics/2012/11/26/54644

Media Should Remember: Rand Paul Has A Problem With Women's Health, Not Just Female Journalists

April 9, 2015 by MEAGAN HATCHER-MAYS

Despite... the "fuzzy" answers he gave the AP and CNN :

As a senator, Paul is firmly anti-choice, though he's right that he does tend to keep things fuzzy when asked if he believes that rape victims should be forced to carry their pregnancies to term. Paul has a perfect voting record with National Right to Life, the organization behind the the law that just effectively criminalized all abortions performed in Kansas during the second trimester. (That law, by the way, has no exceptions for rape or incest.)

And then there's his sponsorship of federal personhood legislation that would extend full legal rights to fertilized eggs, a move that bans most, if not all, abortion and could make certain forms of birth control illegal.

Because Paul's personhood proposal holds that the full weight of the 14th amendment kicks in "at the moment of fertilization," methods of birth control that may prevent implantation -- like the copper IUD when used as emergency contraception -- could become, as the New Yorker so bluntly put it last year, "weapons of murder."


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/04/09/media-should-remember-rand-paul-has-a-problem-w/203230

The bill is called the Life at Conception Act (2013; 113th Congress H.R. 1091)

Will he get his wish? I don't know, but each of these ravings, plants a seed in the minds of people. Just like the Tea Party guy who want women who've had legal abortions for any reason, PUT TO DEATH FOR MURDER.

Imagine what they could do with the data base on health records and imagine what they could do. Talk about privacy rights? It all depends on who has the power and inclination to use or abuse:

Civil Liberties ‘Hero’ Rand Paul Proposes Fetal Personhood. Again.

by Jessica Pieklo - March 20, 2013

Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) proved once again that when he claims to stand up for civil liberties what he really means is that he stands up for the civil liberties of white guys.

Fresh off accolades even from the left of his speaking filibuster of CIA head John Brennan in the name of a never-expanding police state, Paul introduced the Life at Conception Act, a bill that would declare that human life begins at conception, grant fertilized eggs the same legal status as born persons and would completely criminalize abortion in the United States. “The Life at Conception Act legislatively declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known – that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore is entitled to legal protection from that point forward,” Paul said in a statement. “The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans in the Declaration of Independence and ensuring this is upheld is the Constitutional duty of all Members of Congress.”

Paul is a long-time supporter of criminalizing abortion at the federal level while endorsing states to do the same because he hates big government and believes that individuals should be free to make even unpopular decisions without government pressure. Oh wait. Not quite.

Paul, who also opposes the Civil Rights Act, believes it is the 14th Amendment, the very vehicle that makes the Civil Rights Act a reality, that gives Congress the power to declare life begins at conception AND that it can do so without violating Roe v. Wade. Because, you know, consistency.

Now would be a good time to remind all those libertarian-minded Paul supporters who insist they can support Paul AND women because all Paul wants to do is return abortion to the states that this proposed legislation would do the exact opposite. So, hooray! States rights!


http://www.care2.com/causes/civil-liberties-hero-rand-paul-proposes-fetal-personhood-again.html

Yes, folks, imagine these guys in charge of the White House. Let the slaughter of sinful women go wholesale and completely legal.

Instead of burying these women, let's bury this bullshit for good:


No difference between parties?

Don't like the Nominee of the Democratic Party, so gonna vote Green which won't get elected or not gonna vote?

Don't care who is in the White House as it's all the same?

Anyone says that is no ally. Their actions kill women. In the states that restricted abortion and BC rights, women are dying NOW.



In case you can't tell, I do not like Rand Paul or Libertarians.


BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
32. hooo boy, my blood pressure's up alright!
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:40 PM
Jun 2015

fresh, your access to information is amazing, as always.

What I don't get is why the legalized slaughter of women is pretty much a blip, news-wise. The innerwebz should be on fire with these life-threatening, dehumanizing attacks on women.

Did you read the article by Katha Pollit on why GLBT rights are advancing, while women's right to our own lives, to own our bodies is regressing? I can't remember enough to give you a summary, I have to read it again. It was Verrrrry interesting, I do remember that.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
11. "Georgia law presently does not permit prosecution of Ms. Jones for any alleged acts related to the
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jun 2015

end of her pregnancy,"

give it time. I'm sure there are repukes feverishly writing a new law at this very moment.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
13. They need to stop the propaganda
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:43 PM
Jun 2015

This did not stun or surprise anti-choicers. This is exactly what they are working toward. They won't admit it, and will act stunned now, but this is what they want.

dembotoz

(16,835 posts)
16. Wonderful how a personal decision got her name and face all over the media
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jun 2015

Privacy is just for other folks I guess

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
20. Glad to hear it. The remaining charges should also be dropped.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jun 2015

Insofar as they pertain to possession of the same abortion drug involved in the murder charge.

dhill926

(16,357 posts)
22. hell, even the anti-abortion folks should be happy with this....
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:13 PM
Jun 2015

according to Pat Robertson, the non-viable fetus could have turned out to be another Hitler.

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