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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:58 PM Jun 2015

Petition Wants IOC To Strip Caitlyn Jenner Of Olympic Gold Medal

Source: Chicago Sun Times-National Desk

A petition aimed at Caitlyn Jenner is urging the International Olympic Committee to revoke the gold medal won by Jenner in the decathalon in the 1976 Olympics. The petition is addressed to the International Olympic committee and gets hung up on the fact that if the male Jenner always knew he was a female, then there was a violation of committee rules by allowing a woman to participate in a men’s sport. :

“It has recently come to light that gold medalist Bruce Jenner is in fact transgender, and dentifies as a woman. We congratulate Ms. Jenner on these new developments and wish her the best. However, this creates somewhat of a problem as Ms. Jenner (as talented as she is) claims that she has always believed herself to be truly female, and therefore, was in violation of committee rules regarding women competing in men’s sports and vice versa. Therefore, it is with a heavy heart that we must ask whether or not it is proper that Ms. Jenner should retain her olympic records in light of this, as we must now either claim that Bruce Jenner and Caitlyn Jenner are two entirely different people (which we know is not true), or that Bruce Jenner was, in fact, a woman participating in a men’s event. It is only fair to all involved that women receive their credit as champions of the Decathalon and that the men racing Ms. Jenner are not expected to compete with a superior, streamlined being such as herself."

“We urge Ms. Jenner to support the transgender community by giving up the medals earned by competing against the wrong gender."

Read more: http://national.suntimes.com/national-politics/7/72/1229008/caitlyn-jenner-ioc-petition-gold-medal



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Petition Wants IOC To Strip Caitlyn Jenner Of Olympic Gold Medal (Original Post) big_dog Jun 2015 OP
This will go nowhere. secondvariety Jun 2015 #1
I guarantee this started on 4chan AngryAmish Jun 2015 #33
So hateful and mean-spirited. KarenS Jun 2015 #2
Give me a fucking break.. these blockheads are just stupid. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #3
That's just stupid. TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #4
FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCKERS!! Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #5
A biological woman competing in and winning a men's Olympic event undeterred Jun 2015 #6
^^THIS^^ BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #8
yes! catrose Jun 2015 #12
Exactly! nt TBF Jun 2015 #15
What's your opinion? Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #7
just a little spiteful.. smiley Jun 2015 #9
No kidding gopiscrap Jun 2015 #23
It's some cruel hoax LiberalLovinLug Jun 2015 #10
Ahhh... I guess that answers the question I posted below. PersonNumber503602 Jun 2015 #18
So. If she competed against men srkdqltrmi Jun 2015 #11
Thought crimes? Emotional crimes? Biological crimes? What's next? freshwest Jun 2015 #13
Your argument is sound and well reasoned. hamsterjill Jun 2015 #38
So what if she BELIEVED she was a woman back then? She WASN'T a woman back then! rocktivity Jun 2015 #14
Yes she was SnakeEyes Jun 2015 #30
Another right wing OP. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #16
What a bunch of asshats. PersonNumber503602 Jun 2015 #17
what jerks stupid and vindictive azurnoir Jun 2015 #19
She's had Over 50 Signatures Already! jmowreader Jun 2015 #20
It actually has over 6,500 now. PersonNumber503602 Jun 2015 #26
50!? That's almost the entire Internet! jberryhill Jun 2015 #28
Wow get real! workinclasszero Jun 2015 #21
I know of a very dark place where the petitioners can stick their petition... Playinghardball Jun 2015 #22
That Is Just Stupid erpowers Jun 2015 #24
Hmm, this arguement makes sense Bartlet Jun 2015 #25
Is this for real? Lifelong Protester Jun 2015 #27
This is from the Onion right ? kacekwl Jun 2015 #29
That's just stupid... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #31
What about bigots who think they're clever? sofa king Jun 2015 #32
Good Lord that was 40 years ago. hollowdweller Jun 2015 #34
What the fuck is "dentify?" Some hillbilly write this? lonestarnot Jun 2015 #35
Speaking tooth to power. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #36
Isn't identity the main crux of their line of bullshit here and they either misspell it or think lonestarnot Jun 2015 #37

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
4. That's just stupid.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jun 2015

Obviously, if she had earned the medals in the female competition as a male transitioning to female, then she would have had an unfair advantage.

But what-the-hell advantage did she have competing in the male category when she identified as a male.

Hateful. Hateful.

catrose

(5,068 posts)
12. yes!
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:51 PM
Jun 2015

And the committee has a legal/biological definition of the sexes already, and Jenner conformed to it as both (s)he and it were at the time. So no. Stupid petition.

srkdqltrmi

(1 post)
11. So. If she competed against men
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:45 PM
Jun 2015

The Men were bested by a Woman. So they are admitting that the men of the time were not as good as a woman?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. Thought crimes? Emotional crimes? Biological crimes? What's next?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:57 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:58 AM - Edit history (2)

As Bruce, Jenner fathered children. They have no valid argument, legal or biological.

Picture of Jenner some time ago:



I know what I'm looking at right there. It's not what the book cover says. People need to mind their own effing business!

As my BNL is a FTM, let me say, the person knows something's up, but has a long time generally until s/he can fully accept what the solution is.

Because it is nothing one wants, the surgeries are horrible, the side effects of the hormone therapy and all of that, the years of counseling.

Add to that the CONTINUING discrimination in the most routine matters and one's intimate life put under a microscope, it's a hell no one wants to go through.

It's enough to drive one around the bend. But Jenner has wealth from hard work and his family to give support through all of this.

Jenner also made the best of it for her entire life. It's not a fate anyone wants to endure. But it gives more insight into the other gender than most people are ever allowed to possess.

They CANNOT take away the achievements in sports or any other field from Jenner. I expect the IOC will send this to where it belongs, straight to File 13.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
14. So what if she BELIEVED she was a woman back then? She WASN'T a woman back then!
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jun 2015

That's no basis for taking revoking the medal.


rockitivity

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
17. What a bunch of asshats.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:44 PM
Jun 2015

Any ideas if this Jennifer Bradford is a real person? I'm curious if this is just an anti-social troll doing this to stir stuff up, or if this is based on some transgender bigotry.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
20. She's had Over 50 Signatures Already!
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:10 PM
Jun 2015

I think that if a woman could beat the world's best decathletes at the Olympics 39 years ago when fitness training for women was in its infancy, the transgender community would think that's pretty bad-ass.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
26. It actually has over 6,500 now.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jun 2015

I'd take that "support" with a grain of salt though. That whole thing was started by some professional shit stirrers at 4chan. So they are probably automating a lot of the signatures to make it look like people are signing. This is getting a lot of exposure in the media now, which is exactly what they wanted.

 

Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
22. I know of a very dark place where the petitioners can stick their petition...
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:14 PM
Jun 2015

and it's where the sun doesn't shine...

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
24. That Is Just Stupid
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:38 PM
Jun 2015

Even if he felt he was a woman he still had the body of a man. In addition, just because he thought he was a woman that did not give him an advantage, or make him a "superior streamlined being".

Bartlet

(172 posts)
25. Hmm, this arguement makes sense
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jun 2015

IF you are incapable of thinking on any level. The glaringly obvious fact that these pinheads can't seem to understand is that Jenner, whether he felt that he was a woman, has always been physically A MAN. Not sure how that fact escaped these geniuses.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
34. Good Lord that was 40 years ago.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jun 2015

Surely people have something better to do than try to punish some guy/girl for changing his sexuality.
 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
37. Isn't identity the main crux of their line of bullshit here and they either misspell it or think
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 12:06 PM
Jun 2015

it's a word or intentionally misprint it or failed to proof read. I just find that to be odd. Did they invent a word? Is there a new action verb now, "dentify." Do they now want denify tests administered to olympians?

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