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Omaha Steve

(99,704 posts)
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:30 AM May 2015

NEPAL RESCUERS FIND 3 BODIES NEAR CRASHED US MARINE CHOPPER

Source: AP

BY BINAJ GURUBACHARYA AND NIRMALA GEORGE

KATHMANDU, Nepal (AP) -- Nepalese rescuers on Friday found three bodies near the wreckage of a U.S. Marine helicopter that disappeared earlier this week while on a relief mission in the earthquake-hit Himalayan nation, and officials said it was unlikely there were any survivors from the crash.

"The wreckage of the helicopter was found in pieces and there are no chances of any survivors," Nepal's Defense Secretary Iswori Poudyal said. He gave no details about the nationalities of the three victims, only saying their remains were charred.

The helicopter was carrying six Marines and two Nepalese army soldiers.

A separate team sent by the U.S. Marines also said they identified the wreckage as the missing helicopter, the UH-1 "Huey."

FULL story at link.

Also see: Wilcox, Nebraska, native piloted Marine Corps helicopter missing in Nepal: http://www.omaha.com/news/military/wilcox-nebraska-native-piloted-marine-corps-helicopter-missing-in-nepal/article_e42e877a-fa6e-11e4-86d8-c3e5ce8cbdd8.html

POSTED: THURSDAY, MAY 14, 2015 2:24 PM
By Steve Liewer / World-Herald staff writer

Family members of a Marine Corps helicopter pilot from central Nebraska who is missing with his crew in Nepal are holding out hope that he’ll come home safely.

Nothing has been heard from Capt. Dustin Lukasiewicz, 28, of Wilcox, since his UH-1Y Huey disappeared Tuesday about 45 miles east of the Nepalese capital, Kathmandu.

The helicopter vanished that evening while on a disaster relief mission in rugged, mountainous country, near the epicenter of a 7.3 earthquake that occurred earlier that day. Lukasiewicz’s relatives said they have learned that he was one of six Marines aboard the aircraft, along with two Nepalese soldiers.

“The family is staying positive, and praying,” said Mike McCann of Kearney, whose wife is Lukasiewicz’s cousin. “It’s in God’s hands.”



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Dustin Lukasiewicz is a 2003 graduate of Wilcox-Hildreth High School and a 2007 graduate of the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

FULL story at link. Video: http://studio.omaha.com/?ndn.trackingGroup=91341&ndn.siteSection=omahalanding&ndn.videoId=29076480&freewheel=91341&sitesection=omahalanding&vid=29076480



Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_NEPAL_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

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NEPAL RESCUERS FIND 3 BODIES NEAR CRASHED US MARINE CHOPPER (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2015 OP
when i first heard this story on the radio barbtries May 2015 #1
Awful. They were just trying to help those poor folks. As the US always does. 7962 May 2015 #2
Both China and Russia sent rescue teams to Nepal. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #4
Thanks for posting. I hadnt seen any news on that. 7962 May 2015 #5
Is this sarcasm? JonLP24 May 2015 #10
May all them rest in peace leftynyc May 2015 #3
... 840high May 2015 #6
Sad ending. Gormy Cuss May 2015 #7
Since the incident happened in Nepal JonLP24 May 2015 #8
Nepal Army: All 8 Bodies Found at Crashed US Marine Chopper Eugene May 2015 #9

barbtries

(28,810 posts)
1. when i first heard this story on the radio
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:50 AM
May 2015

a couple days ago, they were still hoping the helicopter had landed and the people were just out of range. sorry to hear that they crashed.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
2. Awful. They were just trying to help those poor folks. As the US always does.
Fri May 15, 2015, 07:13 AM
May 2015

Where are the Russian relief helicopters? Chinese? Any of these other countries who are always critical of us?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
5. Thanks for posting. I hadnt seen any news on that.
Fri May 15, 2015, 11:17 AM
May 2015

After your post, I was able to find a couple stories about them.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
10. Is this sarcasm?
Sat May 16, 2015, 05:57 AM
May 2015

Have you been to US military "combat zone", particularly in Southwest Asia? The US department of defense human traffics many poor Nepalese in-fact.

A U.S. Fortress Rises in Baghdad:
Asian Workers Trafficked to Build World's Largest Embassy



John Owens didn’t realize how different his job would be from his last 27 years in construction until he signed on with First Kuwaiti Trading & Contracting in November 2005. Working as general foreman, he would be overseeing an army of workers building the largest, most expensive and heavily fortified US embassy in the world. Scheduled to open in 2007, the sprawling complex near the Tigris River will equal Vatican City in size.

Then seven months into the job, he quit.

Not one of the five different US embassy sites he had worked on around the world compared to the mess he describes. Armenia, Bulgaria, Angola, Cameroon and Cambodia all had their share of dictators, violence and economic disruption, but the companies building the embassies were always fair and professional, he says. The Kuwait-based company building the $592-million Baghdad project is the exception. Brutal and inhumane, he says “I’ve never seen a project more fucked up. Every US labor law was broken.”

<snip>

No Questions Asked

By March 2006, First Kuwaiti’s operation began looking even sketchier to Owens as he boarded a nondescript white jet on his way back to Baghdad following some R&R in Kuwait city. He remembers being surrounded by about 50 First Kuwaiti laborers freshly hired from the Philippines and India. Everyone was holding boarding passes to Dubai – not to Baghdad.

“I thought there was some sort of mix up and I was getting on the wrong plane,” says the 48-year-old Floridian who once worked as a fisherman with his father before moving into the construction business.

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=14173

BTW -- that was nothing new -- business as usual (from 2005

Blood, Sweat & Tears:
Asia’s Poor Build U.S. Bases in Iraq



Invisible and Indispensable Army of Low-Paid Workers

This mostly invisible, but indispensable army of low-paid workers has helped set new records for the largest civilian workforce ever hired in support of a U.S. war. They may be the most significant factor to the Pentagon’s argument that privatizing military support services is far more cost-efficient for the U.S. taxpayer than using its own troops to maintain camps and feed its ranks.

But American contractors returning home frequently share horrible tales of the working and living conditions that these TCNs endure on a daily basis.

TCNs frequently sleep in crowded trailers, wait outside in line in 100 degree heat to eat “slop,” lack adequate medical care and work almost every waking hour seven days a week for little or no overtime pay. Frequently, the workers lack proper safety equipment for hard labor

And when insurgents fire incoming mortars and rockets at the sprawling military camps, American contractors slip on helmets and bulletproof vests, but TCNs are frequently shielded by only the shirts on their backs and the flimsy trailers they sleep in.

Adding to these hardships, some TCNs complain publicly about not being paid according to their contracts and they also accuse their employers of “bait-and-switch” recruitment tactics where they are falsely recruited for jobs in the Middle East and then pressured to work in Iraq. Once in Iraq, their passports are held to prevent them from escaping. All of these problems have resulted in labor disputes, including labor strikes and work stoppages at US military camps.

“They do all the grunt jobs,” said Steve Powell, 54, of the rural town of Azle, Texas, a former KBR supervisor from the United States. “But a lot of them are top notch.”

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12675

2012 ACLU - Victims of complacency: The Ongoing Trafficking and Abuse of Third Country Nationals
by U.S. Government Contractors
https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/hrp_traffickingreport_web_0.pdf

I posted the UCLA: Law Review study down-thread. Those were just official sources, I could have used personal stories -- what I saw there - on a large very scale the very opposite of "the US always does" when they have rampant labor abuses for over a decade and have done nothing. Poor Asians & Africans driving fiberglass vehicles, no armor, no weapon for like $300 a month not to mention living on a compound & subject to Kuwaiti law (we always had to wait at the border for the guards to search their vehicles). Pentagon don't even track their death tallies & for the work they've done, if they were US military they'd be given awards & presentation ceremonies but are used & abused then ignored.

Anyways, this is what I could find on Russia

Post-Soviet era

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Nepal had extended full diplomatic recognition to the Russian Federation as its legal successor. Since then numerous bilateral meetings have taken place between both sides. Since 1992 numerous Nepalese students have gone to Russia for higher studies on a financial basis. In October 2005 the Foreign ministers of both countries met to discuss cooperation on a variety of issues including political, economic, military, educational, and cultural. Both countries maintain embassies in each other's capitals. Russia has an embassy in Katmandu while Nepal has an embassy in Moscow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepal%E2%80%93Russia_relations

There are many articles where Russia claims they're sending relief workers. Countless articles reported that two Russian diplomats were killed in the mountains but doesn't appear to be a humanitarian relief sort of thing as they were there when the earthquake hit probably why they died.


Report
U.S., China, India Race to Send Aid to Earthquake-Battered Nepal

The United States, China, and India are sending disaster response teams to earthquake-ravaged Nepal, highlighting the role that disaster diplomacy can play in foreign affairs as countries project soft-power influence and aim to win goodwill among their neighbors.

Chinese search-and-rescue teams arrived in Nepal on Sunday, one day after a 7.8 magnitude earthquake devastated the capital city of Kathmandu and killed more than 3,700 people across the Himalayan nation. The U.S. Disaster Response Team is slated to arrive midday on Monday, while a pair of U.S. military special forces teams are providing immediate medical assistance.

The teams from the two countries — as well as India’s contribution of a 300-person disaster response team and a mobile hospital — are racing to keep the death toll from topping the more than 8,000 that died in Nepal’s last mega-quake in 1934. The Nepalese government has been overwhelmed by the scale of the disaster, especially in hard-to-access rural areas.

The international response is an attempt to save lives, but all three countries know it can also pay political dividends down the road. Disaster response is especially important in Asia, where dense populations are coupled with oft-weak government capacities and vulnerability to quakes, typhoons, and other natural disasters. China, in particular, has spent the last decade trying to bolster its own disaster-response capabilities in order to burnish its image across Asia and the Pacific.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/04/26/u-s-china-india-race-to-send-aid-to-earthquake-battered-nepal/

India kinda sorta takes Russia's-China's side on the global side of things, China mainly for economic reasons -- India has really come through naturally because the countries border, regionally, culturally, very similar but Nepal is one of the poorest countries in the world. What I mean is I'd expect Russia to assist here because of India. This is what I mean.

India and Russia have several major joint military programmes including:

BrahMos cruise missile programme
5th generation fighter jet programme
Sukhoi Su-30MKI programme (230+ to be built by Hindustan Aeronautics)
Ilyushin/HAL Tactical Transport Aircraft

Additionally, India has purchased/leased various military hardware from Russia:

T-90S Bhishma with over 1000 to be built in India
Akula-II nuclear submarine (2 to be leased with an option to buy when the lease expires)
INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier programme
Tu-22M3 bombers (4 ordered)
US$900 million upgrade of MiG-29
Mil Mi-17 (80 ordered)
Ilyushin Il-76 Candid (6 ordered to fit Israeli Phalcon radar)
The Farkhor Air Base in Tajikistan is currently jointly operated by Indian Air Force and Tajikistan Air Force.

Both countries signed a defence deal worth $2.9 billion during President Putin's visit to India in December 2012. The 42 new Sukhois, to be produced under licence by defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics, will add to the 230 Sukhois earlier contracted from Russia. Overall, the price tag for the 272 Sukhois - three of the over 170 inducted till now have crashed - stands at over $12 billion.The medium-lift Mi-17 V5 helicopters (59 for IAF and 12 for home ministry/BSF) will add to the 80 such choppers already being inducted under a $1.34 billion deal inked in 2008. The value of India's defence projects with Russia will further zoom north after the imminent inking of the final design contract for the joint development of a futuristic stealth fifth-generation fighter. This R&D contract is itself pegged at US$11 billion, to be shared equally by the two countries. So if India inducts over 200 of these 5th Gen fighters, as it hopes to do from 2022 onwards, the overall cost of this gigantic project for India will come to around US$35 billion since each of the jets will come for upwards of US$100 million at least.[19]
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/04/26/u-s-china-india-race-to-send-aid-to-earthquake-battered-nepal/


JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. Since the incident happened in Nepal
Sat May 16, 2015, 05:20 AM
May 2015

I'm much more inclined to believe it was Nepalese military, at-this-point I don't doubt it.

My hunch had something to do with this (the last sentence)

Cross-border (excluding India)

Victims, especially girls and women, are trafficked to Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Russia, Pakistan, the United Arab Emirates and other Gulf states.[1][12] Experts believe China is also becoming an emerging hub for Nepali victims.[1] Many victims who end up overseas are passed through India first before their final destinations.[11] For non-India foreign destinations, the victims are most commonly subjected to sex trafficking, especially to non-brothels. Also widespread is labor exploitation of victims in unorganized, informal sectors in Gulf states, such as domestic servitude.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Nepal

Abstract

Long-running debates over military privatization overlook one important fact: The U.S. military’s post-2001 contractor workforce is composed largely of migrants imported from impoverished countries. This Article argues that these Third Country National (TCN) workers—so called because they are neither American nor local—are bereft of the effective protections of American law, local regimes, or their home governments; moreover, their vulnerability is a feature, not a flaw, in how the U.S. projects global power today. TCN workers are an offshore captive labor force whose use allows the government to keep politically sensitive troop numbers and casualty figures artificially low while reducing dependence on local populations with suspect loyalties. Legislation to combat human trafficking has done little to remedy exploitation and abuse of TCN workers because of jurisdictional hurdles and the lack of robust labor rights protections. Substantive reform efforts should address the deeper issue at stake, namely that the government uses TCN workers to carry out a core state function—namely, the use of force—without a clear relationship of responsibility to them. Unlike with soldiers, the labor of TCN workers is not valorized as sacrifice and unlike mercenaries selling their services to the highest bidder, they are frequently indebted to the point of indenture.

http://www.uclalawreview.org/offshoring-the-army-migrant-workers-and-the-u-s-military-2/

Initially, I was afraid the military through the media was calling the exploited workers "Nepelese military" rather than slave labor who are quite common in US military war zones, many from Nepal, they delivered (in addition to Asia's & Africa's poor) most of the supplies to US military bases so it was easy for me to imagine they'd be in a position to save a troops' life.

Nice to see the military doing some humanitarian work. Saddens me to hear of the suffering from everyone involved, hits Nepal especially hard with the poverty (sorry got sidetracked by the location. & missed the emphasize meant by the bold)

Eugene

(61,939 posts)
9. Nepal Army: All 8 Bodies Found at Crashed US Marine Chopper
Sat May 16, 2015, 05:54 AM
May 2015

Source: Associated Press

Nepal Army: All 8 Bodies Found at Crashed US Marine Chopper

KATHMANDU, Nepal — May 16, 2015, 3:39 AM ET
By BINAJ GURUBACHARYA Associated Press

The bodies of all eight people on board the U.S. Marine helicopter that crashed this week during a relief mission in earthquake-hit Nepal have been recovered, Nepal's army said Saturday.

The wreckage of the UH-1 "Huey" was found on Friday following days of intense search in the mountains northeast of capital Kathmandu. The first three charred bodies were retrieved the same day by Nepalese and U.S. military teams. The Nepalese army said in a statement Saturday that the remaining five were also recovered.

The aircraft, with six Marines and two Nepali soldiers on board, went missing while delivering aid on Tuesday.

Lt. Gen. John Wissler, commander of the Marine-led joint task force, told reporters in Kathmandu on Friday that his team could not immediately identify the cause of the crash or the bodies found.

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Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/nepal-army-bodies-found-crashed-us-marine-chopper-31087124
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