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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:08 PM May 2015

Oklahoma passes bill allowing designated school staff to carry guns

Source: Yahoo! News / Reuters

OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) - School districts in Oklahoma would be able to designate an employee to carry handguns on school property under a bill approved on Wednesday by the state Senate and sent to Governor Mary Fallin.

Backers said the measure that easily passed in the Republican-dominated legislature would promote school safety while opponents said having the firearms on campus could put students and teachers in danger.

Fallin's office was not immediately available for comment on whether the Republican governor would sign the bill into law. She has backed expanding gun rights in the state.

The bill allows school boards to choose a school employee to be trained as an armed security guard or reserve peace officer. The training would be paid for by the school district and allows the designated employee to carry a handgun on school grounds.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/oklahoma-passes-bill-allowing-designated-school-staff-carry-195205663.html

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Oklahoma passes bill allowing designated school staff to carry guns (Original Post) Little Tich May 2015 OP
Have they identified the problem that this is designed to solve? TreasonousBastard May 2015 #1
No worse than our town who buckled to parent crybabies and have an armed "officer" in each school. George II May 2015 #2
Gee, that's swell. TheCowsCameHome May 2015 #3
Yer all correct downhome May 2015 #4
I wonder if they complain about a school nurse too yeoman6987 May 2015 #5
Um, Columbine DID have and armed security guard. mike in raleigh May 2015 #7
Columbine had unarmed security and a police officer Lurks Often May 2015 #9
It's called living a regular life without paranoia or bowing to fear every second of everyday. TeamPooka May 2015 #12
Gee, what could possibly go wrong. SoapBox May 2015 #6
Possibly, the same thing that happened at Columbine! pocoloco May 2015 #8
sigh.... downhome May 2015 #11
If the employee gets LEO training then I don't see the problem hack89 May 2015 #10
 

downhome

(5 posts)
4. Yer all correct
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:44 PM
May 2015

It would be Soooooo much better if the school had to call 911 and wait for an armed officer to show up and take care of any emegency requiring an armed response. That's better than having someone on site.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. I wonder if they complain about a school nurse too
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:12 PM
May 2015

I bet Columbine wishes they had security at the school.

mike in raleigh

(59 posts)
7. Um, Columbine DID have and armed security guard.
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:56 PM
May 2015

Didn't do any good. The assailant usually has the element of surprise on his side.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
9. Columbine had unarmed security and a police officer
Thu May 7, 2015, 08:18 AM
May 2015

The police officer and the security guard were outside having lunch and watching some students on the day of the shooting.

In some ways Columbine fundamentally changed how police reacted to a mass shooting in progress. Prior to Columbine, standard procedure tended to be to set up a perimeter, bring in SWAT and a negotiator and try to end things peacefully. Now police procedure is to engage a mass shooter as soon as possible, without waiting for SWAT or possibly without even waiting for backup.

TeamPooka

(24,248 posts)
12. It's called living a regular life without paranoia or bowing to fear every second of everyday.
Thu May 7, 2015, 07:25 PM
May 2015

You think it's the wild west, everywhere?

 

pocoloco

(3,180 posts)
8. Possibly, the same thing that happened at Columbine!
Thu May 7, 2015, 12:56 AM
May 2015

....if the guard was outside eating his lunch in his car!

 

downhome

(5 posts)
11. sigh....
Thu May 7, 2015, 11:14 AM
May 2015

Last edited Thu May 7, 2015, 12:03 PM - Edit history (1)

The armed guard engaged the shooters and exchanged fire with them. When the shooters were shooting at the guard they weren't shooting at students. That is a good thing. The guard was also able to shelter several students behind his car and allow them to escape unharmed. The shooters ultimately chose to take their own lives as they thought the police were closing in. The sooner the bad guys think they are doomed, the better. Having someone on the scene that can respond to the threat faster than waiting for the result of a 911 call is a GOOD thing. Paranoid fears of a guard or policeman having an evil gun aside.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
10. If the employee gets LEO training then I don't see the problem
Thu May 7, 2015, 09:20 AM
May 2015

armed cops have been a feature of many inner city schools for decades.

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