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brooklynite

(94,601 posts)
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 05:43 PM Apr 2015

Kochs signal support for Scott Walker

Source: new York Times

Charles G. and David H. Koch, the influential and big-spending conservative donors, have a favorite in the race for the Republican nomination: Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

On Monday, at a fund-raising event in Manhattan for the New York State Republican Party, David Koch told donors that he and his brother, who oversee one of the biggest private political organizations in the country, believed that Mr. Walker was the Republican Party’s best hope for recapturing the White House.

“We will support whoever the candidate is,” said Mr. Koch, according to two people who attended the event. “But it should be Scott Walker.”

The remark — made before dozens of top New York donors who had gathered to hear Mr. Walker speak at the Union League Club — could effectively end one of the most closely watched contests in the “invisible primary,” a period where candidates crisscross the country seeking not the support of voters but the blessing of their party’s biggest donors and fund-raisers.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/04/20/koch-brothers-signal-support-for-scott-walker/



So, we know who's winning the money primary...
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Kochs signal support for Scott Walker (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2015 OP
of course they support Walker.... mike_c Apr 2015 #1
Yep..He's a big Union Buster. whathehell Apr 2015 #3
That's what makes him dangerous. He stands astride the Great Divide among the Republicans. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #7
Perhaps it's not a divide so much as a blurry line... Blanks Apr 2015 #15
Stupid doesn't matter. Hasn't since RayGun. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #23
Reagan could give speeches at least... Blanks Apr 2015 #38
Walker has a golden tongue and can give speeches, too wordpix Apr 2015 #39
He's, um, pliable BeyondGeography Apr 2015 #2
A long standing piece of their property. Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #4
A corporate puppet in a Tea Party hat. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #26
A homoneyculus Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #32
If the Krock brothers' money is on Walker. forest444 Apr 2015 #5
Wow, people are starting to believe me. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #8
I should hope so! forest444 Apr 2015 #13
Not surprising Dopers_Greed Apr 2015 #6
I think there are several tied for the bottom rungs erronis Apr 2015 #9
Is there any clue as to why they don't support murielm99 Apr 2015 #10
Because they already own Walker Pharaoh Apr 2015 #16
Jeb will have trouble with the Tea Party. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #28
Koch is the kiss of death maindawg Apr 2015 #11
Walker won re-election LAST FALL together with an increased # of repubs in the Wisconsin Lege n2doc Apr 2015 #19
Saved me the bother. Thanks. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #29
In other news: water wet, sun rises in East. Still In Wisconsin Apr 2015 #12
So have Rand, Ted, and Marco nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #14
He wins. The Kochs rule this nation. Faygo Kid Apr 2015 #17
As Charles Pierce describes him n2doc Apr 2015 #18
lol...a picture is worth a thousand words SummerSnow Apr 2015 #20
He and the Kochs are still good drinking buddies of their koolaid! cascadiance Apr 2015 #31
very good, love it! wordpix Apr 2015 #42
Walker is wose than Cruz, & the MSM falsely call him a "moderate conservative" Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #21
Actually, he IS a moderate conservative Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #24
Koch support makes him vulnerable to attack ads for being supported by the Kochs! Auggie Apr 2015 #22
good point for Dems but for R's it won't work wordpix Apr 2015 #44
Scott Walker's odds have winning the primary just skyrocketed. Shoulders of Giants Apr 2015 #25
They are just investing in an asset liberal N proud Apr 2015 #27
Walker & Fiorina misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #30
Let's make the fascists spend it all on that loser Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #33
This is news? Unless one has buyer's remorse, one is going to support what they have paid for. Thor_MN Apr 2015 #34
Hope Walker wins the nomination. He's as repulsive both visually & politically as the Kochs. stuffmatters Apr 2015 #35
at the very least, with Kochroach $ Walker will weaken Jebbie wordpix Apr 2015 #40
I remember thinking exactly that about Reagan-- Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #41
His whole political life was designed to win their approval! radhika Apr 2015 #36
I believe he is going to be the nominee. RDANGELO Apr 2015 #37
Reality no longer matters. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #43
Jeb v. Scott Walker: this is getting good now wordpix Apr 2015 #45

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
3. Yep..He's a big Union Buster.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 05:50 PM
Apr 2015

As I understand it, his state is in a mess, but so is Christie's. It seems to

be a + for Republicans when campaigning.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
7. That's what makes him dangerous. He stands astride the Great Divide among the Republicans.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:14 PM
Apr 2015

The Tea Party loves him because he comes across just as crazy as they are, while he has solidified his credentials with the Big Money Boys by handing the natural resources of WI over to them, destroying the unions, plunging headlong into school privatization, and beginning the process of turning the University of Wisconsin system into a trade school. For starters.

The other candidates are really loved by one side or the other. Big Money loves Jeb, whom they recognize as one of their own (just as the did Willard Whatsisname), and the wingnut crazies have their own clown car collection of nutcases, Elmer Gantrys, and miscellaneous cases f Delusional Disorder.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
15. Perhaps it's not a divide so much as a blurry line...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:31 PM
Apr 2015

I'm a little nervous because it was too easy to see how stupid Dubya was compared to Gore.

Whoever has the biggest purse wins and if the Kochs chose Walker, they can clean him up and make him palatable to the conservative masses.

We should all be concerned.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
38. Reagan could give speeches at least...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:15 PM
Apr 2015

I remember in January of 2002 they reported on what Dubya was working on. He was practicing the state of the Union address - all month.

Reagan didn't even have to do that when he was suffering from Alzheimer's.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
39. Walker has a golden tongue and can give speeches, too
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:20 PM
Apr 2015

I don't like what comes out of his mouth but the stoopids love it, and he says it well. He's fluid when he speaks, which is what the Kochs care about in a puppet.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
4. A long standing piece of their property.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 05:53 PM
Apr 2015

Perfectly willing to spend who he was elected to represent to those who paid for him to get elected.

A nearly perfect judas goat (other than that glaring bald spot) to lead the others to slaughter.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
32. A homoneyculus
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:01 PM
Apr 2015

An artificially produced life form in the shape of a human being, made from political contributions from the wealthy, brought to life in an unholy alliance of citizens united and corrupted alchemy.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
5. If the Krock brothers' money is on Walker.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 05:55 PM
Apr 2015

So's mine. If I were a betting man, I'd say our buddy Alfred E. Walker wins the nomination.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
13. I should hope so!
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:25 PM
Apr 2015

I just read your post above, Jackpine. As good a description of the GOP primary dynamic as I've seen in so few words.

Spot on, my man!

erronis

(15,303 posts)
9. I think there are several tied for the bottom rungs
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:17 PM
Apr 2015

And no one has taken up the challenge to get to the top.

What a pity the Republican Party is. If they didn't have millions of dollars spent on rigging elections, they'd not even be a footnote in the history books.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
10. Is there any clue as to why they don't support
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:17 PM
Apr 2015

Jebbie? Is he too independent, too wealthy in his own right? Is he just smart enough to defy them, not poor enough to be bought outright? Does he have too much baggage?

I think it is all of the above. Still, I am a bit surprised they chose Walker. I regard Scottie as weak.

On edit: I think Jeb will be the nominee. In a field of crazies, he is actually the sanest. The party will look for some sanity, when all is said and done.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
28. Jeb will have trouble with the Tea Party.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 07:35 PM
Apr 2015

Some of them hate him so much over immigration & his brother's bailout legacy that they will go third party or sit on their thumbs if he is the nominee. Some feel about him over there like some here feel about Hillary. Only they're crazier.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
11. Koch is the kiss of death
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:19 PM
Apr 2015

Last election they lost 16 out of 16 elections they were invested in. People hate the Kochs for a good reason.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
19. Walker won re-election LAST FALL together with an increased # of repubs in the Wisconsin Lege
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:42 PM
Apr 2015

You might rethink your assumptions

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
12. In other news: water wet, sun rises in East.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:19 PM
Apr 2015

Of course the Kochs are supporting Walker. He's been their waterboy for several years now.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
17. He wins. The Kochs rule this nation.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:40 PM
Apr 2015

That's it. Jeb is toast. And the Kochs will see to it that every voting place is rigged.

They own us. Our nation is finished.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
18. As Charles Pierce describes him
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:40 PM
Apr 2015

Scott Walker, the goggle-eyed homunculus hired by Koch Industries to manage their midwest subsidiary formerly known as the state of Wisconsin.

Auggie

(31,174 posts)
22. Koch support makes him vulnerable to attack ads for being supported by the Kochs!
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 07:20 PM
Apr 2015

If I were a campaign manager -- GOP or Democrat -- I sure would exploit that.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
44. good point for Dems but for R's it won't work
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:28 PM
Apr 2015

b/c most of them (probably) have been helped in some way by Koch $. All those secretive PACs that get Tparty R's into office no doubt hold Koch $ in their coffers.

25. Scott Walker's odds have winning the primary just skyrocketed.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 07:29 PM
Apr 2015

The money the Koch brothers can provide him with will do wonders for him in the republican primary. In my opinion this is disgraceful. Its sad that BS ads funded by billionaires can influence so many people. Why can't people see through the nonsense in the political ads? If people actually thought before they voted, billionaires technically couldn't buy a single vote. I honestly wish people who could be so easily manipulated by political ads didn't vote, but unfortunately they do, in the millions, for the benefit of the billionaires.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
34. This is news? Unless one has buyer's remorse, one is going to support what they have paid for.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:14 PM
Apr 2015

Don't see too many Fords with Chevy bumper stickers or vice versa.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
35. Hope Walker wins the nomination. He's as repulsive both visually & politically as the Kochs.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:15 PM
Apr 2015

Certain victory for any Dem candidate. Run the whole campaign about educating America on the Bircher Kochs and Walker as their trusty puppet.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
41. I remember thinking exactly that about Reagan--
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:24 PM
Apr 2015

His nomination was a guaranteed win for Carter in 1980.



Not so much.

Walker is scary.

radhika

(1,008 posts)
36. His whole political life was designed to win their approval!
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:22 PM
Apr 2015

Let's just see if they stay loyal to the obedient old dog, or dump him for a newer, cuter puppy.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
37. I believe he is going to be the nominee.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 09:25 PM
Apr 2015

He has a conservative record, but not a good one as far as creating jobs in Wisconsin. He is going to get his ass kicked.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
43. Reality no longer matters.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:26 PM
Apr 2015

We are now in a post-reality world. Sure, he did a terrible job in WI, but his lapdog press is busy applauding how he's turning the state around.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
45. Jeb v. Scott Walker: this is getting good now
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:33 PM
Apr 2015

I can't wait to watch these two go at it with their mitts off. Hopefully they'll do each other some real damage.

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