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Novara

(5,842 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 09:28 PM Apr 2015

Rape accuser sues football star Jameis Winston in Florida court

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - College football star quarterback Jameis Winston, a contender for the top pick in the upcoming National Football League draft, was sued on Thursday in Florida court by a woman who says he raped her in 2012.

The lawsuit, which seeks financial damages, comes at a time of increased scrutiny of the NFL's handling of allegations of rape and domestic violence by its players.

Winston, 21, did not face criminal charges in the alleged rape and was cleared of any conduct code violations as a student at Florida State University, but the incident continues to draw wide media attention. He has said the sexual encounter was consensual.

The woman, Erica Kinsman, filed the lawsuit in a state court in Orlando, in part seeking to force Winston to answer questions under oath about what happened, said her attorney, John Clune.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/17/us-usa-football-winston-idUSKBN0N72Q320150417

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Rape accuser sues football star Jameis Winston in Florida court (Original Post) Novara Apr 2015 OP
Good. Make him testify, even if Ilsa Apr 2015 #1
I'll try to be first posting news of the verdict nt Earthly Creature Apr 2015 #2
welcome to du niyad Apr 2015 #4
apparently civil court is the only way to get to some of these players. niyad Apr 2015 #3
When crimes are not investigated properly.... Novara Apr 2015 #5
How would a victory for Winston affect your opinion? Earthly Creature Apr 2015 #6
It isn't a matter of opinion that the investigation was severely deficient Novara Apr 2015 #7
Tallahassee police was on the case 3 hours after the incident Earthly Creature Apr 2015 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #17
There will be no victory for Winston cosmicone Apr 2015 #11
I don't think that you know the whole story. Darb Apr 2015 #13
That means nothing if it REALLY was consensual. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #14
If the woman says it was rape .... cosmicone Apr 2015 #15
I'm not taking sides. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #18
Oh brother cosmicone May 2015 #19
Are you even trying? Rape survivors do not "have sex with the accused" but are assaulted by the uppityperson May 2015 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #21
Someone really needs to get a life n/t arcane1 May 2015 #22
you mean beyond presenting false assumptions on and getting repeatedly banned from DU? uppityperson May 2015 #23
It's a start! :) arcane1 May 2015 #24
well you're no fun and obviously not oc enough. uppityperson May 2015 #25
Good for her. I hope her attorney is a real bulldog. BillZBubb Apr 2015 #8
If Bucs draft this monster, we will not be watching any football here. TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #9
Monster? N/t WestSideStory May 2015 #26
I wish her luck on this lawsuit Gothmog Apr 2015 #12

Novara

(5,842 posts)
5. When crimes are not investigated properly....
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 10:34 PM
Apr 2015

....and victims are ignored or discredited, a civil case is the only option. On the plus side, he'll have to testify.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
7. It isn't a matter of opinion that the investigation was severely deficient
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 10:51 PM
Apr 2015

They waited almost a year before a formal investigation was initiated. If she loses this case you can still point to that. However, the burden of proof is lower in a civil case.

 

Earthly Creature

(17 posts)
10. Tallahassee police was on the case 3 hours after the incident
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:46 AM
Apr 2015

They scheduled an interview with her a month later, which she didn't even attend. Is it because she had said that she was hit in the back of the bag and the nurse couldn't corroborate that? http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/timeline-when-did-rape-allegations-against-jameis-winston-get-filed/2154277

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cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. There will be no victory for Winston
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:12 AM
Apr 2015

They have the semen sample from the rape kit. Winston's roommate witnessed the attack.

Winston will be smart to settle this out of court or he will pay a very heavy price.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
13. I don't think that you know the whole story.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 09:13 AM
Apr 2015

I won't get into it but it isn't quite as cut and dried as you state.

Not exactly sure what occurred that night.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
15. If the woman says it was rape ....
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 01:24 PM
Apr 2015

Why would any woman who willingly gave herself to Jameis would say immediately after the encounter that it was rape, go to a hospital and have a rape kit taken?

It is disgusting that some people would take the side of jocks here!

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
16. I'm not taking sides.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 01:38 PM
Apr 2015

But there have been people in the past that lied about this kind of thing to get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

If you can't acknowledge that, then there is no reason to continue. What's disgusting is you implying I'm taking the side of a jock. I said, regarding it being consensual, "Not saying it was". I don't know the truth. Neither do you.

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cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
19. Oh brother
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:11 AM
May 2015

Accused's lawyer is a hired gun and will say anything to get his client off. That is his/her job.

Most of the rapes have no witnesses.

While there might be some women who will scream rape after a consensual encounter (happens in highly religious and conservative societies in Asia) it is almost unheard of in the US.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
20. Are you even trying? Rape survivors do not "have sex with the accused" but are assaulted by the
Tue May 12, 2015, 12:27 PM
May 2015

accused.

Who, beyond you, is saying in any way that a rape kit be mandatory? The defendant's lawyer is paid to defend them, as the prosecuting lawyer is paid to prosecute them. Finally, rarely are there witnesses but of course if there are they should be used.

"Woman who had sex with the accused"? Pshaw, very rare would that ever be.

Response to uppityperson (Reply #20)

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
8. Good for her. I hope her attorney is a real bulldog.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:32 PM
Apr 2015

It will be interesting to see how the NFL handles this mess.

Gothmog

(145,242 posts)
12. I wish her luck on this lawsuit
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 08:49 AM
Apr 2015

I think that her claims were not investigated properly due to pressure from football program

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