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Ptah

(33,037 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 04:59 PM Apr 2015

10 San Bernardino deputies placed on leave after beating caught on video

Source: Los Angeles Times

Ten San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies were placed on paid administrative leave
Friday after TV news video showed them beating and kicking a suspect.

Sheriff John McMahon announced the move to place the deputies -- including a sergeant
and a detective -- on leave during a news conference Friday afternoon.

“I am disturbed and troubled by what I see," he said. "It does not appear to be in line
with our policies and procedures.”

He asked the public to have patience as the use-of-force case is being investigated.
Since the video was released, the sheriff’s department has received numerous
threatening phone calls, emails and posts on social media, he said.



Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-deputies-kick-man-pursuit-20150409-story.html



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10 San Bernardino deputies placed on leave after beating caught on video (Original Post) Ptah Apr 2015 OP
trouble is that it might be in line with unofficial 'policies and processes' samsingh Apr 2015 #1
SOP it's always paid leave while the investigation is done. TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #12
ok - too bad cops don't seem to understand that principle samsingh Apr 2015 #16
Ah, I see. So if the cops came upon me kicking and punching a prone person they would just A Simple Game Apr 2015 #20
Yep this is it. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #22
+1. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #27
HOW!? HOW DO YOU DO THIS?! i AM AT A LOSE FOR WORDS AT THE DEVOLUTION OF roguevalley Apr 2015 #18
Do they belong to a Union? MicaelS Apr 2015 #32
FUUUUUUUUUUCK NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #2
Paid vacation. How brutal. Shrike47 Apr 2015 #3
That's about the extent of it. No reprecussions, whatsoever. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #29
so sick of a paid vacation for these monsters marym625 Apr 2015 #4
Usual Right Wing Meme: OFFICERS HAVE RECEIVED DEATH THREATS, how predictable.... winstars Apr 2015 #5
Lest we not forget, the full six minute video below: winstars Apr 2015 #6
sure give them a paid vacation...this is a sick, sick country.... movonne Apr 2015 #7
Victim's mugshot: dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #8
Probably taken yesterday, before the bruises got really colorful!!! winstars Apr 2015 #13
This is how he looked before: Larry Engels Apr 2015 #21
Paid indefinite vacation. obxhead Apr 2015 #9
Laughing all the way to the beach. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #30
A nice paid vacation so they can rest their kicking leg. Scurrilous Apr 2015 #10
Bastards get a paid vacation for screwing up! RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #11
"It does not appear to be in line with our policies and procedures.” DeSwiss Apr 2015 #14
They need to be prosecuted & the entire department investigated to see how Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #15
+100 Duppers Apr 2015 #17
Can't sue the cops personally. jeff47 Apr 2015 #23
The SB County Commissioners already had a meeting with his attorneys today tishaLA Apr 2015 #28
They should have been arrested. Kingofalldems Apr 2015 #19
PAID leave. That's the tipoff. They're getting off scott free. valerief Apr 2015 #24
Yay! They get rewarded with a paid vacation! Going rogue can really pay off handsomely! Kablooie Apr 2015 #25
So do any of us think these guys who kicked a suspect in the head should asharpwone Apr 2015 #26
http://dustinstockton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/polsta2.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #31

samsingh

(17,601 posts)
1. trouble is that it might be in line with unofficial 'policies and processes'
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:01 PM
Apr 2015

why else is it paid leave.

TexasProgresive

(12,158 posts)
12. SOP it's always paid leave while the investigation is done.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:23 PM
Apr 2015

Something in line with "innocent until proven guilty." Let the process happen and then we will see.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
20. Ah, I see. So if the cops came upon me kicking and punching a prone person they would just
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 06:22 PM
Apr 2015

send me home and let the process happen? I think I would be in jail hoping someone could make my bail, then a trial.

No what needs to start happening is treating the cops like we would be treated, jail and trial. That "process" is good enough for us, it should be good enough for them. Let the cops set the example for why we should have faith in the system.

Edit to add: And mandatory drug testing for the cops after any questionable incident.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
5. Usual Right Wing Meme: OFFICERS HAVE RECEIVED DEATH THREATS, how predictable....
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:04 PM
Apr 2015

I am sure no more than normal..

winstars

(4,220 posts)
13. Probably taken yesterday, before the bruises got really colorful!!!
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:23 PM
Apr 2015

I am sure during the trial, civil or criminal or both we will see lots of photos of his beaten body.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
14. "It does not appear to be in line with our policies and procedures.”
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:27 PM
Apr 2015
- Geeze, I wonder what's got him stumped? Why he's not sure? I mean, I can't think of a single scenario in which this behavior could somehow be considered justified by its ''appearance.''

Not unless your ''policies and procedures'' were written by Joseph Goebbels.



''If we don't fight now, I guess we'll have to be kicked.....''

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
15. They need to be prosecuted & the entire department investigated to see how
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:31 PM
Apr 2015


the departmental culture allowed officers to think they could get away with this.









jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. Can't sue the cops personally.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 06:57 PM
Apr 2015

They have what's called qualified immunity. As long as they were acting in their official capacity, you can't sue the government employee. Instead, you can only sue the supervising government. (State police -> sue the state, sheriff deputy -> sue the county, etc.)

The theory behind this is the supervising government is fundamentally responsible for ensuring its agents behave according to the law. And you don't want Citibank suing individual IRS agents as an intimidation tactic.

The "real" penalty for the individual officers is supposed to be criminal prosecution. That, obviously, does not happen as often as it should.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
28. The SB County Commissioners already had a meeting with his attorneys today
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:34 PM
Apr 2015

It looks like they are taking this seriously,.

The problem, though, is that the LA County Sheriff's department has had a series of scandals both on the streets and in overseeing prisons that have failed to effect change in any significant way IMO. San Bernardino might do a better job--it's far less populated and the financial ramifications of a suit might mean more to them than the millions LA County paid out to means to them--but I'm not very hopeful.

Kingofalldems

(38,484 posts)
19. They should have been arrested.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 06:01 PM
Apr 2015

What more do you need after the video? Even the talkative dispatcher went silent during the beating.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
24. PAID leave. That's the tipoff. They're getting off scott free.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 07:07 PM
Apr 2015

Even if Pusok is an asshole, they're worse assholes.

 

asharpwone

(27 posts)
26. So do any of us think these guys who kicked a suspect in the head should
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 07:36 PM
Apr 2015

have licenses to own guns or knives or other weapons for the rest of their lives?

Please respond with your own opinoin on this.

Do people who kick suspects in the head deserve to ever own or use guns again?

I'm just wondering what people think.

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