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riversedge

(70,267 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:39 PM Apr 2015

Wisconsin Bans Staff Of Public Lands Board From Talking About Climate Change

Source: HuffingtonPost





Wisconsin Bans Staff Of Public Lands Board From Talking About Climate Change


Posted: 04/08/2015 6:15 pm EDT Updated: 2 hours ago




TREES WISCONSIN


According to Wisconsin's Board of Commissioners of Public Lands, working on climate change, or even just talking about it while at work, is a waste of public funds.

On Tuesday, the board voted 2-to-1 to prohibit staff "from engaging in global warming or climate change work" while on the clock at the Board of Commissioners.

The move comes as Republicans on the board expressed outrage that the board's executive director, Tia Nelson, had served on a state global warming task force in 2007 and 2008, which was organized by former Gov. Jim Doyle (D).



La Follette, the only vote against the measure, said Republicans are trying to "gag employees" on climate change. He also accused [Rep.] Adamczyk of having personal motivations on the subject.

"Part of it is he hates environmental people," La Follette told the Wisconsin State Journal. "And that includes me."...........


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/wisconsin-climate-change-board_n_7028732.html



This move by Republicans further demeans state workers and Wisconsin

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@maddow-->Wisconsin #Republicans Bans Staff -Mia Nelson -Of Public Lands Board From Talking About #ClimateChange http://huff.to/1ChAk2z #p2


Meet Tia Nelson, a #Wisconsin state employee banned from discussing or answering emails about "climate change": https://twitter.com/ForecastFacts/status/585884746149793792/photo/1 #p2



@SenShilling-->Republicans try to prevent #Wisconsin official --Tia Nelson working on climate change http://gu.com/p/47aha/stw #wipolitics #p2



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Wisconsin Bans Staff Of Public Lands Board From Talking About Climate Change (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2015 OP
Meet Tia Nelson, a Wisconsin state employee banned from discussing or answering emails about "climat riversedge Apr 2015 #1
Tweet form Rep. Dianne Hesselbein riversedge Apr 2015 #4
This is a really ignorant policy Gothmog Apr 2015 #2
Dear Wisconsin, Wake up! Sincerely, California pinto Apr 2015 #3
we are devoling into florida! riversedge Apr 2015 #6
Could be that they are setting up WI to be the place to move people when FL is submerged.... Thor_MN Apr 2015 #12
WTF???? a kennedy Apr 2015 #5
Each day I am more and more sad--I do riversedge Apr 2015 #13
This is so primitive, it doesn't seem possible. How could it happen? Time to wake the #### up. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2015 #7
What a childs game. Shhh - the ghosts will hear us and then they will come out from under jwirr Apr 2015 #8
this ALEC shit is getting to be a bit tedious... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #9
pathetic oldandhappy Apr 2015 #10
Get the fuck out of here. LMFAO. It appears that idiots move in packs. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #11
Isn't it against this women's free speech rights? midnight Apr 2015 #14
Some other papers are reporting on this issue... riversedge Apr 2015 #15
Le magazine du Monde riversedge Apr 2015 #25
These people are idiots - 'nuff said. Marie Marie Apr 2015 #16
Matt Adamczyk is a moron, it's official. (Photo of his swearing in by Chief Justice) riversedge Apr 2015 #17
BULLSHIT! I am SO F'N tired of the persecution complex!! slumcamper Apr 2015 #18
Wiscon "sin" Geronimoe Apr 2015 #19
I'm thinking this stupid move on the Commissioners' part will backfire bigtime. PatrickforO Apr 2015 #20
Probably not gonna be like Pence and the backlash against LGBT-haters. HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #24
Such are the Symptoms of Severe Teabagger Infestation AndyTiedye Apr 2015 #21
wisconsin, wisconsin, how can you let this continue? bbgrunt Apr 2015 #22
My state is governed by morons. Scuba Apr 2015 #23
This is true and Matt Adamczyk-the lard tub is one of the biggest morons.... riversedge Apr 2015 #27
shame the state gov can't plan for when the great lakes, the ice age puddles turn into muckie muck. Sunlei Apr 2015 #26
Wisconsin GOP leaders forbid...staff from discussing climate change. Can't even answer emails riversedge Apr 2015 #28
If nobody talks about it, the problem will simply disappear. olddad56 Apr 2015 #29
Oh well, it’s only the Public Lands Board Buenaventura Apr 2015 #30

riversedge

(70,267 posts)
1. Meet Tia Nelson, a Wisconsin state employee banned from discussing or answering emails about "climat
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:42 PM
Apr 2015



Forecast The Facts ?@ForecastFacts 7h7 hours ago

Meet Tia Nelson, a Wisconsin state employee banned from discussing or answering emails about "climate change":

riversedge

(70,267 posts)
4. Tweet form Rep. Dianne Hesselbein
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:48 PM
Apr 2015

We here in WI can always count on Dianne to weigh in on stupidity. Thank you Dianne


Dianne Hesselbein ?@RepHesselbein 1h1 hour ago

Unbelievable - Tia Nelson is amazing and doesn't deserve this treatment http://m.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/state-board-bans-workers-from-discussing-global-warming-b99477926z1-299117931.html



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http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/state-board-bans-workers-from-discussing-global-warming-b99477926z1-299117931.html


State board bans workers from discussing global warming



By Todd Richmond, Associated Press
April 8, 2015 5:58 p.m.



.....She [Tia Nelson] told Adamcyzk during Tuesday's meeting that none of the previous commissioners had a problem with her serving on the task force and she didn't think serving at a governor's request would be objectionable, according to audio recordings of the proceedings.

She hasn't actively worked on global warming since the task force disbanded seven years ago, she said. She added that she typically works as long as she must to complete her board responsibilities, including evenings and weekends.

"I have never lobbied on climate change on state time in the entire 10 years I've been at the board of commissioners," she said.

Adamcyzk responded that he doesn't want employees spending board time at five-hour meetings in the future. He said if Nelson were to receive any questions or emails about global warming, she should refer them to the commissioners.........


According to board meeting minutes, Adamcyzk called for a vote to fire Nelson in early March. He accused her of "time theft" for attending task force meetings on board time, specifically pointing to a day she spent in Washington, D.C., in 2009 testifying on global warming before a House subcommittee on energy and the environment......


Nelson said during Tuesday's meeting that she spent only about two hours testifying on global warming in Washington and spent the rest of her 12-hour day in the city on board business.

riversedge

(70,267 posts)
13. Each day I am more and more sad--I do
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:16 PM
Apr 2015

not even know if I feel anger anymore. It all seems so hopeless when Representatives at our state Capitol are allowed to demean state workers --a fellow worker --publicly.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. What a childs game. Shhh - the ghosts will hear us and then they will come out from under
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:54 PM
Apr 2015

the bed.

These Rs think that if they don't talk about climate change it will go away. Well tell that the people of this world who are suffering the affects already.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
11. Get the fuck out of here. LMFAO. It appears that idiots move in packs.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:56 PM
Apr 2015

Coordinated effort to prove themselves stupid.

riversedge

(70,267 posts)
15. Some other papers are reporting on this issue...
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:21 PM
Apr 2015


I searched-- State board bans workers from discussing global warming---
and got a few other papers that are reporting on this crap


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riversedge

(70,267 posts)
25. Le magazine du Monde
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:39 AM
Apr 2015


Le magazine du Monde ?@lemonde_M Mar 3

Depuis qu'il a été élu, Matt Adamczyk n'œuvre qu'à ça : être le dernier à occuper son poste http://lemde.fr/1zEiDry
https://twitter.com/lemonde_M/status/572764072485249024/photo/1



riversedge

(70,267 posts)
17. Matt Adamczyk is a moron, it's official. (Photo of his swearing in by Chief Justice)
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:36 PM
Apr 2015

uga. poor Shirley having to swear in this tub of lard!


Emily Mills ?@millbot 6h6 hours ago

Matt Adamczyk is a moron, it's official. "Board of Commissioners of Public Lands bans staff from climate change work" http://bit.ly/1yWIXyf




Board of Commissioners of Public Lands bans staff from climate change...

The three-member board voted 2-1 to prohibit staff from work related to climate change, even if it's only responding to emails on the topic.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
18. BULLSHIT! I am SO F'N tired of the persecution complex!!
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:49 PM
Apr 2015

So, FIGHT. Stand up! Did Selma teach anyone anything?

This "poor me" lamentation over harsh right-wing bullying (and that's all it is) is tiresome.

FIGHT, for fuck's sake! Stand up, speak out, and make yourself and this nonsensical attempt at muzzling an ISSUE.

RISE UP, fight the power, and be the change that you can be.

Pissing an moaning while rolling over as bullies seek to muzzle truth is a losing proposition...and frankly I am growing awfully damn tired of such a spineless and wimpy response which has become all too routine on the left.

It's time to confront and resist. NONVIOLENT, ACTIVE RESISTANCE. Remember?

Stop the pissing and moaning up there in Wisconsin and show some goddamned fight. Get serious. Civil disobedience works.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
19. Wiscon "sin"
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:54 PM
Apr 2015

The good people of Wisconsin are getting what they voted for. So sad they will need to suffer until they find themselves last in all measures compared to all other States.

How stupid of them to elect someone more idiotic than Bush.

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
20. I'm thinking this stupid move on the Commissioners' part will backfire bigtime.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:14 AM
Apr 2015

Just like Governor Pence's recent debacle.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
24. Probably not gonna be like Pence and the backlash against LGBT-haters.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:26 AM
Apr 2015

Gender orientation is a personal and immediately intimate issue, climate change denial impacts individuals, but the individual impacts are not immediate and aren't intimately targeted.

People who are LGBT and people who are their family, friends, co-workers, are distributed through every aspect of society. When a state passes a law to allow pizzeria or bakery refuses service on the basis of gender orientation people all across society understand what that means in a very personal way.

People who want to stop fossil fuel use or prevent the privatization of WI aquifers are better categorized, and the category can be cubby-holed and treated as a 'special interest', which have to have fewer friends and much clearer opponents.

This action by the Public Land Commissioners is as the commissioners says...about profitable land use. Issues of public land use that impact air or water resources in general ways is outside of what the majority of the commissioners want to deal with...which is promoting sand mining for frac'ing, promoting mineral extraction generally, and setting up the state to sell its aquifers to Nestles or other persons interested in owning and controlling water resources.

No one is going to boycott Miller beer, jelly-bellies, or Brewers games, or Wisconsin casinos because of banning of climate change as a valid considerations of the staff of the Public Lands Commission because the link between that policy and the harm isn't immediately seen. Moreover, unlike the right to discriminate against LGBT, it isn't targeted against important family members, admired co-workers or friends it's targeted at unknown staff buried in the state bureaucracy.

It's a bad policy for the future, no doubt, but it's very unlikely to result in a firestorm of protest from across the nation focused on WI







AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
21. Such are the Symptoms of Severe Teabagger Infestation
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:01 AM
Apr 2015

Regrettably, we have yet to find a cure for this condition.

riversedge

(70,267 posts)
27. This is true and Matt Adamczyk-the lard tub is one of the biggest morons....
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:45 AM
Apr 2015





Board of Commissioners of Public Lands bans staff from climate change work
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17 hours ago • By Steven Elbow | The Capital Times



....."The move to ban an issue leaves staff at the Board of Commissioners of Public Lands in the unusual position of not being able to speak about how climate change might affect lands it oversees," writes Bloomberg reporter Eric Roston.

Roston cites a U.S. National Climate Assessment that states that climate change could threaten forests in the Midwest, where the temperature has risen an average of 1.5 degrees from 1895 to 2012. Warming temperatures could cause a decline in several species of trees, according to the report. Another government report Roston cites, from the Environmental Protection Agency, says that climate change threats include droughts, wildfires and the proliferation of harmful insects, such as the gypsy moth.

While Adamczyk and Schimel are new to the board and voted for the measure, La Follette, who voted against the climate change ban, has been on the board for nearly 30 years.

“Having been on this board for close to 30 years, I’ve never seen such nonsense,” he said in the conference call on Tuesday, according to Bloomberg. “We’ve reached the point now where we’re going to try to gag employees from talking about issues. In this case, climate change. That’s as bad as the governor of Florida recently telling his staff that they could not use the words ‘climate change.’”

He was referring to a report last month by the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting that found that Florida Department of Environmental Protection officials "have been ordered not to use the term 'climate change' or 'global warming' in any official communications, emails, or reports."

The Bloomberg report quoted Adamczyk as saying, in response to a question regarding what Nelson should do if she receives an email concerning climate change, “she can forward it to us and we can all look at it. I would prefer that we didn’t have to prohibit stuff like this. It just seems silly that we would have to. But I’m not the one that’s been engaging on this topic for years.”

Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/steven_elbow/board-of-commissioners-of-public-lands-bans-staff-from-climate/article_1c433c90-2d10-5dfa-8b3e-955e201a3457.html#ixzz3Wob3NxrS







State Treasurer Matt Adamczyk, seen here at his swearing in on Jan. 5, has successfully pushed for banning staff with the state Public Lands Commission from working on climate change issues. Adamczyk sits on the three-member commission.
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riversedge

(70,267 posts)
28. Wisconsin GOP leaders forbid...staff from discussing climate change. Can't even answer emails
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:31 PM
Apr 2015



Wisconsin GOP leaders forbid Public Lands Commission staff from discussing climate change. Can't even answer emails. http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/writers/steven_elbow/board-of-commissioners-of-public-lands-bans-staff-from-climate/article_1c433c90-2d10-5dfa-8b3e-955e201a3457.html
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Buenaventura

(364 posts)
30. Oh well, it’s only the Public Lands Board
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:09 PM
Apr 2015

and Scooter is sending most of our public lands to North Dakota on the frac sand trains. Natural Resources Board members can still talk about global warming ('cause it’s caused by volcanos).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/09/scott-walker-climate-change_n_7036766.html

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