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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 08:06 AM Apr 2015

Large Hadron Collider restarts after two-year rebuild

Source: BBC News

The Large Hadron Collider has restarted, with protons circling the machine's 27km tunnel for the first time since 2013.

Particle beams have now travelled in both directions, inside parallel pipes, at a whisker below the speed of light.

Actual collisions will not begin for at least another month, but they will take place with nearly double the energy the LHC reached during its first run.

Scientists hope to glimpse a "new physics" beyond the Standard Model.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32160755



"Researchers here believe that the new, super-charged LHC will lead to the biggest revolution in physics since Einstein's theories of relativity", reports Pallab Ghosh

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Large Hadron Collider restarts after two-year rebuild (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
Thanks for posting this! Physics is always the light of hope! hue Apr 2015 #1
SCIENCE RULZ...! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #2
Be Nice Red1 Apr 2015 #3
i can haz Large Hadron Collider? Oh, nos, turn it off!!! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #4
Contrary to popular opinion mindwalker_i Apr 2015 #13
Exist, he does...or doesn't he? LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #14
Werner Heisenberg and Erwin Schrodinger are driving down the highway hifiguy Apr 2015 #20
You.... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #21
I like how they resolved the problem that was holding things up. drm604 Apr 2015 #5
These guys are so brilliant it's frightening! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #6
I can barely comprehend how complex this piece of engineering is. Actually, I probably can't at all Tab Apr 2015 #7
Mere mortals can only marvel... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #8
I'm not posting my real identity here but here's a clue: Tab Apr 2015 #9
Are you Obi Wan....Yoda....? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #10
That's funny, but you can tell it's a fake Tab Apr 2015 #11
Hey, Mr. Kenobi (Obi Wan) didn't talk like that. He was Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #12
The ATLAS detector is the size of a ten story office block. longship Apr 2015 #15
I know, just mind blowing... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #17
Physicists are just following our natural human tendencies... eggplant Apr 2015 #16
Sparticles, anyone? Lionel Mandrake Apr 2015 #18
A whole subatomic zoo, just waiting to Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #22
Very cool. hifiguy Apr 2015 #19
I'm a mathematical basket case, but love this stuff! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #23
Have you seen the movie "Particle Fever"? Lionel Mandrake Apr 2015 #25
Thanks, LM, for the shout out. I'm always on the prowl Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #28
Just so you know, thanks to your suggestion, I DID Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #29
Sheldon & the gang will be elated! 7962 Apr 2015 #24
It's a nice machine, but can it make coffee? Little Tich Apr 2015 #26
Or maybe it will destroy the earth... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #27
Certainly not. Lionel Mandrake Apr 2015 #30
A good description of the magnitude of this thing Tab Apr 2015 #31
You're a DUer after my own heart, Tab... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #32
Love this stuff! Snow Leopard Apr 2015 #33
Look for 'PARTICAL FEVER'. You can stream it on line. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #34
Thank you! Snow Leopard Apr 2015 #35

hue

(4,949 posts)
1. Thanks for posting this! Physics is always the light of hope!
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 09:48 AM
Apr 2015

I'm hoping issues will be resolved in Japan for the building of the International Linear Collider which will smash positrons against electrons. It will be a SUSY factory!

 

Red1

(351 posts)
3. Be Nice
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:03 AM
Apr 2015

To have fusion run the new power generators of the century.

-get rid of coal
-get rid of koch..well maybe only partially..

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
13. Contrary to popular opinion
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:15 PM
Apr 2015

Physicists don't spend all their time trying to create Schroedinger's cat.

In Soviet Russia, Schroedinger's cat creates itself!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
20. Werner Heisenberg and Erwin Schrodinger are driving down the highway
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 05:08 PM
Apr 2015

when a trooper pulls them over.

"Do you know how fast you were going?" says the cop.

"Nein, but I know exzactly vhere I am!" says Heisenberg.

"You were going 106 miles per hour!!!" says the cop.

"Great, now ve are completely lost" replies Heisenberg.

The cop looks over at Schrodinger and says "mind if I take a look in the trunk?"

"Nein."

"There's a dead cat in here! Care to explain that?"

"Vell, he is dead now, dummkopf!"

The single nerdiest joke I know.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
5. I like how they resolved the problem that was holding things up.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:09 AM
Apr 2015
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-32133876
The short circuit delaying the restart of the Large Hadron Collider has been fixed, after a blast of high current melted the metal particle responsible.
...
The short circuit was caused by a tiny piece of metal debris, which found its way into the pipes and became lodged in the wiring of one of the LHC's powerful electromagnets.
...
"Maybe the safest mechanism would have been to warm up the machine and go in there and clean it out - but that would have been a very long process," Dr Collier said.

So instead they tried something new: passing nearly 400 amps of current directly through the short circuit, for just a few milliseconds - "in the same way you would blow a fuse".

Tab

(11,093 posts)
7. I can barely comprehend how complex this piece of engineering is. Actually, I probably can't at all
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:10 AM
Apr 2015

I can barely wrap the precision and timing and magnitude around my head, deep physics aside.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
11. That's funny, but you can tell it's a fake
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:28 AM
Apr 2015
Kenobi says he first started teaching the ways of the Force to a young lady who was having trouble revising for her particle-physics exams. "She said that I was her only hope," says Kenobi. "So I just kinda took it from there. I designed an experiment to detect the Force, and passed on my knowledge."


Properly it should have said "Her only hope, she said that I was" and "Took it from there, I just kinda did" and "Detect the force, an experiment I did design" and "Pass on my knowledge, I did". Proper english (or lack of it) is a giveaway.

It was a cute article.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. Hey, Mr. Kenobi (Obi Wan) didn't talk like that. He was
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:34 AM
Apr 2015

a well-spoken Englishman. The syntax murderer was Yoda!

longship

(40,416 posts)
15. The ATLAS detector is the size of a ten story office block.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:24 PM
Apr 2015

Here it is:

Note the human sized icons in the foreground.

It is 46 meters long by 25 meters in diameter. That is some serious shit going on there. The grad students spent months wiring the thing. (Best use for them. )

Under construction (a human standing in the foreground):


It is really difficult to get a good view of ATLAS. It is just too damned large. But here's another.

eggplant

(3,913 posts)
16. Physicists are just following our natural human tendencies...
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:17 PM
Apr 2015

...of discovering the nature of things by smashing them together. Rocks, cars, particles, ...

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
18. Sparticles, anyone?
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:45 PM
Apr 2015

Last time around, the LHC experimentalists found the Higgs boson. This time, who knows?

The experimentalists may discover nothing at all, which would mean the death of high energy physics. Or they may discover supersymmetric analogs of known particles: selectrons, squarks, gluinos, sneutrinos, etc. Some of these sparticles are candidates for dark matter.

Right now, the LHC at CERN is where the action is in high energy physics.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. Very cool.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 05:02 PM
Apr 2015

Theoretical physics is my latest obsession. If I had gotten the math gene most people on the spectrum have I would have become a cosmologist or theoretical physicist rather than going to law school. Unfortunately I am pretty mathlexic.

Perhaps they will at last find proof of the Higgs boson.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
25. Have you seen the movie "Particle Fever"?
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 08:00 PM
Apr 2015

This movie is all about the LHC and the discovery of the Higgs boson. It was in the theaters for a while. Now it streams on Netflix.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
28. Thanks, LM, for the shout out. I'm always on the prowl
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:28 AM
Apr 2015

for good science docs.

I'll be looking for it to stream on line.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
29. Just so you know, thanks to your suggestion, I DID
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:14 AM
Apr 2015

find it on line. Gorgeous doc. Nobody does it better than the Beeb.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
26. It's a nice machine, but can it make coffee?
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 09:12 PM
Apr 2015

Jokes aside, I'm glad the LHC is up and running again. Perhaps we'll finally find out what dark matter really is.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
30. Certainly not.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 07:15 PM
Apr 2015

The energies attainable by the LHC (or any other present or future machine) are far below those of some cosmic rays which have been bombarding the Earth, Moon, etc. for billions of years without causing a catastrophe (such as a macroscopic black hole). Only cranks take seriously the suggestion that the LHC might destroy the Earth.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
32. You're a DUer after my own heart, Tab...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:14 AM
Apr 2015

I'm just blown away by this thing. I live in France and would love to tour it in person.

But, in the meantime, thanks lots for this 'layman's' explanation.

 

Snow Leopard

(348 posts)
33. Love this stuff!
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:23 AM
Apr 2015

Very interested to see what they find out. I was watching some youtubes on this and the Higgs. Amazing how many videos think this is an evil plan to open a portal to allow satan back on earth!! Lol!! So on the one hand you have the best of humanity, and the other you go "we are doomed".😀

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