Ted Cruz To 'Global Warming Alarmists': Galileo Was 'Branded A Denier' Too

[DonViejo]

Source: TPM

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) likened himself to Galileo as he defended his position as a climate change denier in an interview Tuesday in New York City with the Texas Tribune.

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When Root said that "most people say the science is clear," Cruz was ready with a rebuttal. He cited a 1970 Newsweek article that touted "global cooling," a trend that, he said, wasn't supported by data, as support for his belief that we should "follow the science."

"I am the child of two mathematicians and scientists," Cruz said. "I believe in following evidence and data. On the global warming alarmists, anyone who actually points to the evidence that disproves their apocalyptical claims, they don't engage in reasoned debate. What do they do? They scream, 'You're a denier!' They brand you a heretic."

"Today the global warming alarmists are the equivalent of the flat-earthers," Cruz continued. "You know it used to be: 'It is accepted scientific wisdom the Earth is flat.' And this heretic named Galileo was branded a denier."

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-galileo-denier-climate-change

[Coventina]

1. There's stupid, and then there's CRUZ stupid....

[valerief]

30. His comedy is Monty Python absurd. It is comedy, isn't it?

He can't be serious!

[William Seger]

36. The genius of Monty Python skits...

... was that they were usually both absurd and stereotypical. So is Cruz, so I understand your question, but I'm pretty sure it's unintentional.

[Fred Sanders]

2. Extremist is calling those calling Cruz an extremist.....more God and Goebells.

And Fox.

6. To be perceived, propaganda must evoke the interest of an audience and must be transmitted through an attention-getting communications medium.

............


13. Propaganda must be carefully timed.
a. The communication must reach the audience ahead of competing propaganda.

b. A propaganda campaign must begin at the optimum moment

c. A propaganda theme must be repeated, but not beyond some point of diminishing effectiveness

14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.
a. They must evoke desired responses which the audience previously possesses

b. They must be capable of being easily learned

c. They must be utilized again and again, but only in appropriate situations

d. They must be boomerang-proof

15. Propaganda to the home front must prevent the raising of false hopes which can be blasted by future events.

http://www.psywarrior.com/Goebbels.html

[Enrique]

3. if Ted Cruz is Galileo

then George Zimmerman is Anne Frank

[LynneSin]

6. and Darren Wilson is Gandhi

[Cryptoad]

18. Damn,,,,,,

the told us we would repeat our history.....

[arcane1]

4. Isn't he doing the exact same thing? Branding them a heretic?

[thecrow]

34. He is full of some very twisty

reverse engineering.
Galileo my a**.

Cruz, your 15 are up.
Next.

[LynneSin]

5. I'm already bored with Cruz, can we have the next clown from the Clown car

seriously!

[Iliyah]

8. That would be (Ayn) Rand Paul . .

Guys, thanks for the laughs!

[groundloop]

17. I thought that was Aqua-Buddha Rand

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

7. Typical sociopath and narcissitic personality - NO SHAME!

[AgingAmerican]

11. And heavy projection

nt

[Roland99]

9. If Ted Cruz is like Galileo, then....

Ken Ham is like Albert Einstein!

[Scruffy Rumbler]

10. Owe. I think something snapped in my brain

trying to understand that reasoning!

[Cryptoad]

21. you gotta love that Rethug Logic! nt

[Judi Lynn]

32. It's bound to happen!

The only ones who can listen to him without ill effects wouldn't know who Galileo was, anyway!

[underpants]

37. Me too. It's just mouth words he knows his crowd wants to hear.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. You're also the son of a god damned lunatic! I fucking swear i need to stop reading threads

about this slimy jagoff.

[TygrBright]

13. Dangit, there went *ANOTHER* irony meter! They gotta build these things tougher. n/t

[Roy Rolling]

14. Oh ye of little faith

The prophet hath declared climate science as heresy.

And so shall it be, as written in the holy scripture of Newsweek, 1970. (it was a good year for Newsweek)

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. 4th Grade Level Debate. Ted, quiet down. The adults are trying to solve problems over here

What a fucking joke.

[Android3.14]

16. "Apocalyptical"?

Is that a word?

First off, Galileo didn't claim the Earth was round. He proved (rather than claimed, you fuckin' idiot) that the Earth and planets circled the Sun.

For someone who is the offspring of scientists and mathematicians, you sure crawled out of the shallow end of the gene pool.

[angrychair]

19. bless his heart

I dont think that means what you think it does.

[rurallib]

20. once when I was a wee boy and we were in Chicago to see a baseball game

my Dad ignored a sign that clearly said he was about to turn the wrong way on a one way street.
He turned the corner and was immediately facing 4 lanes of traffic waiting at a stop light a block ahead. They would mow us down.

"You're going the wrong way" my Mom said. "No, I am not, they are" said my Dad. Even at 7 years old, I knew he was so badly wrong.
Must be the way Cruz feels about now.

Cruz chooses to drive headlong into the one way onslaught about to hit him. My Dad turned down an alley to turn around.

[hatrack]

22. Boy began with a shovel in each hand, then upgraded to a backhoe . . .

And now he's got a fucking dragline GEM, and he's digging, and digging and digging . . .

[agtcovert]

23. I love this strategy

State plainly what, in reality, you are doing, and attribute the behavior to your opponents.

[staggerleem]

25. Standard Rethuglican Operating Procedure ...

... for my entire lifetime, anyway. Mental health professionals call that "projection".

[staggerleem]

24. If Climate Change alarmists are flat-earthers ...

... then the deniers are the frogs in the pot of water on the stove. They simply cannot accept that the situation is indeed changing, and becoming quite dire. They just sit there in the water as it gradually boils, and deny that anything dangerous is happening.

The point is, whether they accept it or not, they - and WE - are being COOKED!

[DavidDvorkin]

26. His mother was a computer programmer for Shell Oil

His father has a degree in mathematics. Together, they ran a seismic-data processing business in Canada. They are not mathematicians, and they certainly are not scientists.

[xocet]

27. Seemingly, Ted Cruz is actually less informed than was previously believed....

Last edited Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Ted Cruz To 'Global Warming Alarmists': Galileo Was 'Branded A Denier' Too

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"Today the global warming alarmists are the equivalent of the flat-earthers," Cruz continued. "You know it used to be: 'It is accepted scientific wisdom the Earth is flat.' And this heretic named Galileo was branded a denier."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-galileo-denier-climate-change

Ted Cruz apparently cannot distinguish the incorrect idea that the Earth is flat from the incorrect idea that the Sun along with every other heavenly body (excepting the Moon) orbits the Earth.


The Greek philosopher Eratosthenes demonstrated scientifically that the Earth is curved by measuring said curvature approximately during the 3rd century B.C.E.:

The Catholic Church's problem with Galileo had to do with Galileo's support of the idea of heliocentrism instead of the Church-supported idea of geocentrism:

So, to place Ted Cruz's above remarks in proper context, his remarks should be annotated:

Ted Cruz To 'Global Warming Alarmists': Galileo Was 'Branded A Denier' Too

...

"Today the global warming alarmists are the equivalent of the flat-earthers," Cruz continued. "You know it used to be: 'It is accepted scientific wisdom (This is not true and never was true. Since simple experiments do not show that the Earth is flat, Cruz's accepted 'wisdom' cannot be scientific in origin.) the Earth is flat (accepted 'wisdom' until about the 3rd century BCE when the Earth's curvature was scientifically demonstrated by Eratosthenes).' And this heretic (due to his support of heliocentrism) named Galileo was branded a denier (of geocentrism)."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-galileo-denier-climate-change

[gregcrawford]

28. Cruz is a pathological liar

Sociopaths are devoid of conscience or empathy, so he, like his father, has no compunction whatsoever about spewing even the most brazen lies to make sure he remains the center of attention.

This jerk-off was supposedly a debating champion? The competition must have been pretty weak if they couldn't refute his contentions. Just because he speaks with authority does not mean that he IS an authority on anything. What an asshole.

[smirkymonkey]

43. It's always the most ignorant who speak with the greatest conviction.

I really, really have a hard time buying the fact that this guy was a debating champion. I think his megalomania has short-circuited his reasoning facilities.

[frylock]

29. classic projection

[Panich52]

31. Those theocrats and their revisionist history... Nearly 1000 years before Galileo, Aristotle knew

Earth was round from lunar eclipses. Eratosthenes even figured out its size. Galileo confirmed Copernicus' view of the solar system.

Cruz, the Dominionists' "Anointed One," suffers the same psych profile as rest if GOP with a heavy reliance on the defense mechanism of projection -- blame others f/ your faults. And the RW religionists also lean heavily on denial -- denial of anything that upsets their warped view of reality.

[xocet]

40. Your post places Aristotle at about 600 CE.... It seems that your M needs another M. n/t

[Panich52]

42. Oops. Math never was my subject. ;)

[madamesilverspurs]

33. You see,

there are reasons for the invention of the concept of bassackwardness . . .

[awoke_in_2003]

35. This is almost as stupid...

as Bill O'Reilly's "Tides go in, tides go out, you can't explain it". It is so stupid that all I could do was blink rapidly for a second or two to attempt to expunge the stupid that I had read before it lowered my IQ

[cindyperry]

38. mr. cruz is a

raving idiot

[Monk06]

39. In Galileo's case the Catholic Church was the denier. The Church claimed science was heretical too.

But they saw the light and Cruz yearns for darkness.

[Thor_MN]

41. "I believe in following evidence and data.*"

* except when they don't support the position I am paid to support, then I just make shit up.

[Joe Magarac]

44. You don't go far enough, Ted ...

Why not compare yourself to Jesus Christ while you are at it.