Sen. Elizabeth Warren wows firefighters union meeting
Source: Miami Herald-MCCLATCHY WASHINGTON BUREAU
BY DAVID LIGHTMAN
Snip: Webb and Sanders offered messages of strong support for middle-class workers and unions. But Warren was the clear favorite.
Why is there no money to make our country work? she asked to cheers. Ill tell you why. Its because the game is rigged. Its because oil companies have great lobbyists. She blasted away at NASCAR owners, thoroughbred breeders and big banks.
They wont give up their special perks, she insisted. The only thing that will make a real difference is if we work together.
After she spoke, Warren gave about 40 Massachusetts firefighters a fiery pep talk at a nearby hall. Ive got your back, she said, almost shouting, and Ill do everything I can for you.
FULL story at link.
After Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., spoke at the International Association of Firefighters Legislative Conference in Washington, Monday, March 9, 2015, she gave about 40 Massachusetts firefighters a fiery pep talk at a nearby hall. Ive got your back, she said, almost shouting, and Ill do everything I can for you. PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS AP
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article13228514.html
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)That is all.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Just sayin'
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Just Sayin'
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Just Sayin'
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)This time, 8 years ago, Barack Obama had already spent the better part of a year organizing and lining up support. It doesn't matter that nobody voted until 2016; the reality is that you've got to be organized and financially supported long before that.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Hillary Clinton is hiring staff and her supporters (RFH) are lining up commitments for millions of Dollars in financial support. Webb, Sanders and O'Malley are actively talking about running. Warren-is-not. And I know her campaign people so I'd know if she was.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)It would be an avalanche of enthusiasm.
Worst thing she would face is how to organize
the mass of humanity wanting to elect her
as the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT!
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)...volunteer help is great. Your STILL need 10s of millions of dollars, and politically saavy people to translate support into votes. Remember the Howard Dean campaign in '04?
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)we simply can't afford that "new car smell"
of a fresh and invigorating candidate
Guess we'll have to settle for leftovers
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)It may not be as big a problem for "anyone but Hillary" than you think.
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/progressive-donors-dont-invite-hillary
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)She could definitely embarrass the repubs.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)It's a no brainer, she can sweep this.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)And some are even talking about it except for Hillary who is following Warren's lead and not saying anything yet.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)She is an obvious candidate. And she is doing a fabulous job of it.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)[font color=gray]she's not running[/font color]
Maineman
(854 posts)Well, we should be... we could be... we must be.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Because if she doesn't have those serious $$$ lined up on the day she says "yes" (which she won't), her campaign will crash and burn pretty quickly.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)and she could always change her mind about running, especially if Hillary's
star starts falling.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Is that your picture of Democracy?
FWIW, Warren or anyone else w/o funds now can raise tons of money, $100M or more, if they have the right message.
Warren has it.
Clinton has excuses and no charm or message whatsoever.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)I HAVE said that, political reality being what it is. ANY Presidential candidate will need to raise multiple millions of dollars for a campaign, and since Warren ISN'T doing that, you'll need to fill in the gap if you want her to have a campaign that'll be successful.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)midnight
(26,624 posts)dhill926
(16,355 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)we'd have the country back in no time.
midnight
(26,624 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)Seriously. Her words jump off the page.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)rpannier
(24,338 posts)First, if Clinton is elected, she'd likely seek re-election
Warren would be 71 in 2020.
I'm not sure she'd want the grueling primary at that age.
Though Jerry Brown is much older and he seems to do just fine running California
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)I don't care for the whole "coronation" of the party's candidate. Even if it's your "dream" presidentaial candidate, he or she is far better prepared by some level of competition in the primary. Not full-on mortal combat mind you, but Obama vs Hillary made Obama a better candidate. Perhaps if Al Gore had been challenged more thoroughly, the 2000 election would have been a landslide rather than a win so close it could be stolen.
I'd much prefer Warren to HRC, but if Hillary is to be the nominee, she needs to work the kinks out of her political teams operations. Early indications are not encouraging. Perhaps a response to a baseless attack could be countered by the next news cycle in 1992, but in 2015 you have to be nearly instantaneous. Get out ahead of misinfornation and GOP propaganda, don't let it direct the narrative.
I don't think Warren or Bernie would take that BS for 2 seconds. If HRC s going to be POTUS, she better get in the ring and start kicking some ass chop-chop. Stop taking punches and start throwing them.
madokie
(51,076 posts)closely followed by Sanders, Brown and Whitehouse. Pretty much in that order
calimary
(81,461 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)Those four are my favorites is all. If they have a D by their name I like them unless they do something stupid to change that. Not many Democratic congress folks ever do that though
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)David Lightman. Now where have I heard that name before?
7962
(11,841 posts)whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)The Party needs to start working for the people & attracting new younger brains & energy God knows. But in the corporate age & the era of eternal student debt I wonder how sharp young people will be attracted to govt. service- all part of the GOP plan to demean & kill govt.- of, by & for the people.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)to be compared with the "Dean Scream"...
At some point, if Warren's style of delivery when speaking comes into question, that description from the Miami Herald will be resurrected. "Senator Warren's aggressive tenor in the speech reminded reporters of the time she was speaking to firefighters and 'shouted' at them."
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I need my weekly Warren Fix!
No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)that 44% of his union is Republican. That's a fairly large percentage, though not surprising.
They had better be wary of Republican governors who want to take away their pensions, close down some stations, and get by with fewer firefighters.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)mountain grammy
(26,648 posts)"the system is rigged!" and everyone within hearing range knows, you're goddam right it is!
She can capture a crowd like no other. My husband caught her on a talk show by accident and was captivated. He's been paying attention like never before. I could never get that out of him, Warren did.
She can win! She can win! And she will make mincemeat of every Republican lie and people will listen. I love Bernie Sanders, but Warren can win.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)mountain grammy
(26,648 posts)I think, if push comes to shove, she will do what the country needs.
The next step for Republicans? Impeachment. Where else can they go after this letter bullshit?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)mountain grammy
(26,648 posts)don't fuck with me! Not that she actually says that, but it's the message.
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)She has real passion for something meaningful that is larger than herself. People know when it's real and they love it. It's a shame she isn't running because a big someone else is in the way.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Run Liz Run!
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Please.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)I welcome it if she decides to run.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)...the firefighters who make over $120,000/year.
I know a lot of firefighters (one myself), and NONE on them make anywhere near that much.
The median wage for a firefighter is $45,600/yr.
Someone is more than a little out-of-touch with the people who actually work in this country,
and her name is Hillary. If YOU are making over $120,000/year, then maybe she IS "your girl".
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I'm nothing but supportive of these myself but every thing she has been doing lately smacks of pandering to the demographic.
Her time in the Silicon Valley, and even the first question that came to her this week at the beginning of her crappy response to the email scandal.
OMG, that had to be planted. She got to select the questioners, right?
I'm sick of her.
Well hell, what good democrat doesn't support womens' rights? We all do.