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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 03:50 PM Mar 2015

Nigeria's Boko Haram pledges allegiance to Islamic State

Last edited Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: BBC

Nigerian militant group Boko Haram has pledged allegiance to Islamic State (IS), according to an audio statement.

The message, which could not immediately be verified, was posted on Boko Haram's Twitter account and appeared to be by the group's leader.

Boko Haram began a military campaign to impose Islamic rule in northern Nigeria in 2009. The conflict has since spread to neighbouring states.

It would be the latest in a series of groups to swear allegiance to IS.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-31784538

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Nigeria's Boko Haram pledges allegiance to Islamic State (Original Post) Bosonic Mar 2015 OP
Lol, wow jamzrockz Mar 2015 #1
Which makes me wonder, can't they just find out where that tweet was sent from? Marksman_91 Mar 2015 #9
Didn't they do "A Whiter Shade of Pale?" Chasstev365 Mar 2015 #2
"What's wrong with violins on tv?" louis-t Mar 2015 #3
I think Boko Haram is the Doo Wap Group that sings "Al Shabaab" n/t Gore1FL Mar 2015 #4
rlry? you wankers..... irisblue Mar 2015 #5
Thank you Bush/Cheney GuntherGebelWilliams Mar 2015 #6
Nigeria has been fucked up for longer than that. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #14
If by fucked up jamzrockz Mar 2015 #15
Did they teach you about the Biafra conflict and the atrocities perpetrated upon geek tragedy Mar 2015 #16
Wars do end jamzrockz Mar 2015 #17
That would mean swearing allegiance to the killing of every person that is not of the Islamic DhhD Mar 2015 #7
Not "Wahhadi." Igel Mar 2015 #8
kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom Purveyor Mar 2015 #10
If I am not wrong sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #11
Whodathunkit? Mass murderers and sex traffickers gotta stick together. freshwest Mar 2015 #12
Of course they do. Wahabbism its all the same JonLP24 Mar 2015 #13
 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
1. Lol, wow
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 03:54 PM
Mar 2015

Boko haram has a twitter account. How is it that twitter management hasn't banned it?
This is just unbelievable

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
9. Which makes me wonder, can't they just find out where that tweet was sent from?
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 07:51 PM
Mar 2015

Unless of course they're much more sophisticated than we thought in terms of using IP proxies.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
2. Didn't they do "A Whiter Shade of Pale?"
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:10 PM
Mar 2015

Oh, wait: That was Procol Harum. Never Mind! Dedicated to Ms. Emily La Tella.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
3. "What's wrong with violins on tv?"
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:14 PM
Mar 2015

"It's a very nice instrument." Hate to joke about ISIS but if I don't I'll lose my mind.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
15. If by fucked up
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:45 AM
Mar 2015

You mean corruption and poverty then yes, but what we have now in Boko Haram with violence and fear which is new to Nigeria. I grew up poor to middle class in the 90s in Nigeria and I thought life was wonderful. I went to a good government school, I was well fed and protected living in a house with 2 wonderful parents, hung out with friends and played lots of soccer in my spare time

Nigeria was OK for a long long time, the problem is the Wahhabi (or salafi) strain of Islam that was exported in the 90s by US best gulf ally. Its started slow with Saudi back politicians implementing sharia law on everybody in those states where they achieved victory and then the graduates from those islamic schools started trying to change society. Also the weapons attained from the ill advised Libyan war did not help. This is stuff is a new level of fucked up that I have never seen in my lifetime.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. Did they teach you about the Biafra conflict and the atrocities perpetrated upon
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:55 AM
Mar 2015

the Igbo?

The decades of military dictatorship? The constant coups and following massacres?

We have different ideas of what it means to be "OK for a long long time."

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
17. Wars do end
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 12:13 PM
Mar 2015

and normal life returns. I went to boarding school with the children or grandchildren of Nigerian soldiers who fought against my parents and grandparents during the Biafran war. Yes, life is OK and very normal and many people have forgotten about the civil war and have moved on.

You should stop listening to the scare mongers on TV. Yes, there have been a few killing here and there with Northerners killing Christians but that has more to do with jealousy that racial, religious or tribal divide and the few cases of it have been blown out of proportion.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
7. That would mean swearing allegiance to the killing of every person that is not of the Islamic
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:47 PM
Mar 2015

Wahhadi sect. That means killing Sunni, Shiite and other Muslim sects as well as any persons having other or no religious affiliation.

Wahhadism is the radical Islamic religion of Saudi Arabia, IS, ISIS, and ISIL. The movement is now in India too.

Will Boko Haram change their name to ISIA or Islamic State In Africa?

Igel

(35,359 posts)
8. Not "Wahhadi."
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:52 PM
Mar 2015

Wahhabi. Which is a Salafist offshoot of Sunni Islam. Named after Wahhab, who was the last person to actually codify this variety of Islam.

Salafism itself has a (rather narrow) range of views. But all have the attitude that the earliest forms are Islam are the purest.

The IS don't so much kill those with inferior revelations or that have gone astray as require their subordination. They are intolerant of those who have rejected even inferior revelations, however, although absolute subordination can get you some acceptance. What you absolutely can't do is reject their domination: That is a declaration of war and violation of any contract of peace that could exist. In Darul Islam there is only pure Islam in charge; all others must submit in order to allow peace. Otherwise it's all darul Harb, the "world of war." Rather absolutist that divide.

IS is consistent with this. As they spread, they leave in peace groups that do not raise their hand against them. As soon as the US drew blood, their US captive was beheaded. As soon as Japan allied with IS' enemies, ditto. This is a consistent ideology and rational according to its own views.

India has scant Wahhabism. The local variety of ultra-pure Islam in South Asia is Deobandism. There's a lot of overlap. They're not incompatible. Sometimes it's hard to tell one from the other, since they drink from the same wells: A literalist interpretation of the Qur'aan based on a literal interpretation of the Sunnah combined with a predilection for considering the gates of ijtihad closed and favoring older, necessarily more Salafist interpretations. As far as I know both are okay with the various fiqhs. In recent years some madaris have mixed the two, and some have gone full-blown Wahhabi, mostly because of the need to be in compliance with the demands of their funding sources or because that's the teaching materials the madaris have. Afghanistan under Taliban rule was more Wahhabi than Pakistan and India.

But I'm just a former translator and high school teacher with just the usual background knowledge common to every American.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
11. If I am not wrong
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 11:56 PM
Mar 2015

This means all the fundamentalists are getting
together. The Shia groups will also come together.

What the hell are we still doing there?!!?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
13. Of course they do. Wahabbism its all the same
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 04:24 AM
Mar 2015

The problem is the idea & propaganda is already out there & the US primary concern is to have that cheap privatized oil flowing when they need to start with sanctions, threaten them war, all that tough rhetoric they save for Russia & use it on our Arabian Peninsula allies. However, how to erase a century of Wahabbi propaganda & all the indoctrination, especially when they heavily target children. All the schools are replaced with their brand of religious schools.

90%+ of what ISIS says is propaganda BS & better at marketing than their predecessors, however a decade of war, oppression, & terror has given them stuff they can use. Own of the shadows the allied with ISIS used a horrific crime over & over for recruiting.

In 2010, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) released the first issue of Inspire , their English language recruitment magazine. To date, AQAP has released 10 issues of Inspire, and the plight of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay has been featured prominently in several issues.

In the 2010 inaugural issue of Inspire, an essay by Osama bin Laden mentions "the crimes at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo . . . which shook the conscience of humanity." Tellingly, bin Laden points out that "there has been no mentionable change" at Guantanamo and the prison is noted again later in the issue.

Gitmo features even more prominently in Issue 2 of Inspire. The essays of Abu Sufyan al-Azdi and Uthman al-Gamidi, two former detainees who returned to AQAP upon their release, call new individuals to join the jihad, whether at home or abroad. In Issue 7, Yahya Ibrahim notes that Guantanamo Bay "exposed the West for what it really is" and "showed the world the American understanding of human rights."

Most troubling, in the latest issue of Inspire released early this month, AQAP mentions Guantanamo Bay several times. In a prelude to the attention that the hunger strikers have been paid lately, Abu Musab al-Suri notes that Guantanamo is not only "filled with . . . mujahedeen" but also with "hundreds of innocent civilians." While it is quite rich to hear AQAP's concern for the plight of innocent civilians, given the high number of Yemenis cleared for release still at Guantanamo, this is a very salient message for AQAP's base in Yemen.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/04/how-guantanamo-bays-existence-helps-al-qaeda-recruit-more-terrorists/274956/

A legitimate concern of the human rights everyone all-around is the only way I see to start reversing the disease, not only for when it is convienent but we also have to be the example. KRG has really done of a good job, they have opened refuge camps to other sects and also helped the highest elected Sunni official escape a political prosecution (who got the death sentence is a trial that took place without him) and have kept themselves out of the human rights violations or not into the mindless slaughter, oppression, hate that appears to be ruling all the various factions including the two countries' governments.

House of Saud -- they have a lot of blood on their hands. The US wasn't even involved in the region (and had a favorable perception compared to Britain & France, colonizers) when they started the propaganda BS and a trail of beheadings.

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