MH370: Missing Malaysia Airlines flight 'will be found'

[alp227]

Source: BBC

Malaysia's transport minister says he is confident the MH370 flight which disappeared almost a year ago will be found in the southern Indian Ocean.

Liow Tiong Lai told the BBC that search teams would keep looking for the aircraft which had been carrying 239 passengers and crew.

The Malaysian airliner was on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing when it vanished.

Investigators are due to release a report on the search on Sunday.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31777060

[NJCher]

1. Heard this opinion by famous psychic crime detective Noreen Renier

Renier said that she sensed the plane is on earth, might be underground. All passengers dead. Says we may find out sometime around Oct. of this year. Now, all of this is based on my memory, which is not very good, even though I only listened to the program a week ago. If I listen to it again, I'll post any corrections.

Renier is the only psychic detective to lecture at the FBI Academy.





Cher

[rickford66]

2. Let me crank up my psychic abilities.

It will be found at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. It will be mostly in one piece. There will be no problems found except that it ran out of fuel. One or more persons shut off communication and recording systems on purpose. They will never be conclusively identified. Families of all the passengers and crew will receive larger monetary settlements. Perfect crime committed by suicidal genius. That is all. It's getting hazy.

[PADemD]

3. Aw, give Noreen a chance

Lots to gain and nothing to lose.

...She helped to locate a plane containing the body of a relative of an FBI agent."
— Robert Ressler (Retired-FBI)

http://www.noreenrenier.com/

[rickford66]

5. The facts as we know them agree with my prediction.

You will see that I will be completely correct when the aircraft is found and examined. It was a well executed plan for monetary gain for one or more families. One or more family members were willing to sacrifice themselves for the rest. I would look for a crew member or passenger with even cursory aircraft mechanical/electrical knowledge who may have been in bad health or indebtedness. I'm sure the authorities have already narrowed this list down to one or two suspects, but there will probably never be enough proof to make final judgement.

[FLPanhandle]

13. BWAHAHAHA

Thanks for the good laugh.

[NJCher]

14. so happy

you are easily amused!


Cher

[Joe Johns]

4. IT'S IN KAZAKHSTAN, HAVING BEEN HIJACKED ON ORDERS FROM PUTIN!

Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2015, 05:28 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm sorry, but I posted the wrong link originally. Here's the right one, the original Jeff Wise article from Feb 23::

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/02/jeff-wise-mh370-theory.html

[EX500rider]

7. Actually I lean towards that theory also.

Seems unlikely they wouldn't have found even a single piece of floating debris by now. Plus why fly 7 hours to commit suicide.

[rickford66]

8. To leave little or no evidence.

[rickford66]

11. Remember "The Miracle on the Hudson" ?

That aircraft landed intact and would have sunk in one piece if allowed to. There may not be any debris for years.

[EX500rider]

15. That was one of the few times a jetliner hasn't broken up during a water landing..

.....no waves, shallow depth, good crew.

What they more commonly look like is Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961:

[rickford66]

18. Maybe or maybe not.

[former9thward]

20. No, if it had sunk there would have been a lot of floating material.

The Hudson crash occurred from a very low altitude. That is why it was in one piece. The Malaysian aircraft would have broken up. Even if somehow a place did not break up on impact water pressure would break it up when it sunk. All sorts of stuff would have gone to the surface.

[rickford66]

21. Both water ditchings occured at the same altitude .... 0 ft SL.

The Hudson ditching had an aircraft diving towards a river and leveling off. What's to say 370 wasn't on a very low level glide path? You're assuming it dropped from high altitude. Both aircraft being unpowered may have had similar airspeeds. Even if 370's wings were torn off, three large intact pieces could sink rather quickly. I could easily come up with one of the outlandish theories to account for no debris. The bad guys waited at location X in a submarine and scooped up all the debris. Or was it those pesky aliens? Either way, no debris. Mystery solved. Except for the motive which I proposed in my comments above. None of these other theories however possible have a realistic motive.

[former9thward]

23. At least you admit only CT can explain no debris.

[rickford66]

24. CT = "crazy theories" ?

I admit and theorize no such thing. I was obviously humoring those with crazy theories. A landing similar the the Hudson ditching could produce little or no debris. There's aircraft at the bottom of the Pacific from WWII in one piece. Bill Reilly and I saw photos. When 370 appears on land somewhere I'll buy drinks all around. Stay thirsty my friend.

[rickford66]

9. Lots of word salad. No motive. Doesn't match known data.

[EX500rider]

16. "Doesn't match known data."

The know data was a series of satellite handshakes that only gave a arc the plane was along, a arc north of last know location or a arc south of last know location. They decided it went south but north was still a possibility.

[rickford66]

17. I was more concerned about motives.

My theory outlined in an earlier comment can fit the data. Communications cutoff and the aircraft turned away from its flight plan. Aircraft ditched somewhere out of sight (not on land). Monetary settlements for families. What motives do these other theories offer?

[EX500rider]

19. What motive does the pilot have to make monetary settlements for the passengers?

As to motive, a Boeing 777-200ER costs about $261 million dollars....who knows what the Kazakhstani Mafia could do with that?
Part it out? New tail numbers and use it in country?

[rickford66]

29. "What motive does the pilot have to make monetary settlements for the passengers?"

Obviously if everyone benefits, you can't finger the actual perpetrator. Who said it was the pilot? I say it could be anyone on the aircraft with some rudimentary knowledge of the aircraft. I could do it and I'm not a pilot.

[EX500rider]

36. "I could do it and I'm not a pilot."

Really? You could breach the cockpit door, disable both the flight crew and the flight attendants, disable the transponder and ACARS system and prevent all cell phone or radio use?

[rickford66]

37. You missread me

If I was in the cockpit I could do it. Just as either one of the crew who was left alone or someone gained entry did. What I said I could do was disable communications and turn the aircraft South West. Disabling the transponder and ACARS etc is done by pulling a couple CBs. The same is true of the Voice Recorder and Flight Recorder. There were no secret agents hijacking the aircraft. There was no in-flight emergency. It was a well planned takeover by probably one of the crew. If the co-pilot who crashed the A320 turned off the Voice and Flight recorders we may never have figured out what happened.

[NJCher]

6. whatever the case...

It's interesting to read everyone's theories.

Richard Belzer and some co-authors have a new book out on it; the title is Someone is Hiding Something. Here's a link to the page of reviews at Amazon. More interesting theories posted there.

http://smile.amazon.com/Someone-Hiding-Something-Happened-Malaysia/dp/1632207281/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1425765616&sr=1-1&keywords=george+noory#customerReviews


Everyone's got a theory.




Cher

[Reter]

10. It's not in the ocean, nor did it crash in the ocean

The reason it hasn't been found is either because the close-minded know-it-all's only think it went south and is under water, or they know and don't want it being found for cover-up reasons.

[rickford66]

12. Name some viable motives for your theories.

I say the motive was material gain in the form of large monetary settlements to the victims families.

[former9thward]

25. What large monetary settlements?

“The rules are clear,” adds Robert Alpert Sr., senior counsel and co-leader of a crisis management practice at the Atlanta law firm Morris Manning & Martin. The Montreal Convention, Alpert points out, has a two-tiered approach: It grants up to $175,000 in automatic compensation regardless of fault for proven damages, but also allows for unlimited damages above that if the airline can be proved negligent. Payouts for previous crashes in which negligence was proved were high: Pan Am had to pay a total of more than $500 million when Flight 103 was blown up over Lockerbie, Scotland (the plaintiffs prevailed in their claim that the airline was to blame for lax security), and ComAir paid $264 million in the case of Flight 5191, which crashed in Lexington, Ky., in 2006 after pilots used the wrong runway during takeoff.

But in the case of MH370, unless they find the airplane, the cockpit voice recorder, and the flight data recorder — and those devices can categorically prove terrorism or some other form of negligence — there’s a distinct possibility these families will get little or nothing above the standard $175,000. This crash, Alpert says, “might turn out to be very inexpensive.”

http://fortune.com/2014/05/01/the-big-money-surprise-about-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

[rickford66]

27. $175,000 isn't bad if you're dirt poor to start with.

Have all the law suites been settled already? Did any passenger have life insurance? With public pressure, I'm thinking the families will get more.

[Joe Johns]

22. Kick

I've fixed my original post in this thread.

[rickford66]

26. "It’s hard to come up with a plausible motive for an act that has no apparent beneficiaries."

This quote from your link. He's right of course, IF there's no apparent beneficiaries. My theory has a whole bunch of them. The families of the victims. (plus the author of your pet theory. I guess he got paid) His theory is way too complicated to plan and execute.

[liberalhistorian]

28. I wonder if CNN will spend another

two months covering this 24/7 nonstop?

[treestar]

35. If so much as a piece is found

CNN will go full bore nonstop 24/7 on it.

[Baclava]

30. Sure, in another 60-70 years I'm fairly confident it could be found too

we'll see

[Comrade Grumpy]

31. ...in Benghazi!

[amindformurder]

32. Police Psychic Detective Noreen Renier did not find lost aircraft

A previous comment here identified 'police psychic detective' Noreen Renier as having located a missing airplane per a statement on her website by Robert Ressler of the FBI. Ressler admitted he made the statement in haste and he even had the wrong state where the plane crashed. He also testified that Noreen Renier has never worked for the FBI or as an investigator on any FBI case. For more (as of late March 2015) see the new international website http://globalnetresearch.com/Part1.html about the plane, and http://globalnetresearch.com/findings.html for key findings about Renier's claims.

[JI7]

33. after that german airline does anyone think one of the pilots intentionally crashed this one also ?

[treestar]

34. Yes, that's been indicated strongly

when they determined that the transponder was deliberately turned off. Going off course like it did. Maybe the guy thought to go out in such an obscure part of the world was the thing to do. Another factor was the wife had just left him. So maybe he snapped.