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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 06:36 PM Mar 2015

Rick Perry questions Hillary’s ‘loyalty’

Source: MSNBC

Following a weekend full of conservative attacks on Hillary Clinton at the Conservative Political Action Conference, former Texas Governor Rick Perry added to the list, questioning the former secretary of state’s “loyalty” in an interview that aired Sunday.

Responding to news that the Clinton foundation had not notified the State Department when it previously accepted a donation from a foreign nation, Perry argued that Clinton was disloyal.

“I think it falls flat in the face of the American people when it comes to, are you going to trust an individual who has taken that much money from a foreign source? Where’s your loyalty?” Perry said in an interview that aired on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

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“Are you going to trust an individual who has taken that much money from a foreign source?” Perry asked.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/rick-perry-questions-hillary-clinton-loyalty



Yup, Republicans who openly flirt with secession and cheered on Bundy, are taking the lead in questioning Hillary Clinton's loyalty because the charitable foundation that they ran received a donation from a foreign nation.

Still, perhaps they are suggesting that we should also look into the Red Cross and Doctors Without Borders if they receive donations from foreign sources.
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Rick Perry questions Hillary’s ‘loyalty’ (Original Post) TomCADem Mar 2015 OP
That's All they've Got! Chasstev365 Mar 2015 #1
Exactly! Spot on post Populist_Prole Mar 2015 #14
it plays well among the secession ie treason roguevalley Mar 2015 #23
If "loyalty" should be questioned... SoapBox Mar 2015 #2
Exactly!!! These individuals are doing their damnedest to destroy America. Each and RKP5637 Mar 2015 #28
A Republican wants to talk about flirting with foreign governments? >cough cough< Beartracks Mar 2015 #3
>cough< Reagan >cough< selling missiles to Iran >cough< Oliver North >cough< lastlib Mar 2015 #20
Where does most of the funding go? Not in the US. I am thinking there is a lot Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #4
Clinton foundation isn't it global... Historic NY Mar 2015 #5
And Rick Perry's fleeting moment of genius is tossed aside rpannier Mar 2015 #6
Something tells me though that they would howl if the investigation was into where cstanleytech Mar 2015 #7
The Clinton Foundation is a charity, but now would be a good time... William Seger Mar 2015 #8
This guy? starroute Mar 2015 #9
Nothing exceeds like secession. "Loyalty" my rosy roseola. Hekate Mar 2015 #15
So, Hillary is not loyal and Obama does not love America. Beacool Mar 2015 #10
It gets rather boring to me. Yet, I know riversedge Mar 2015 #13
Hillary questions Rick Perry's IQ C Moon Mar 2015 #11
I question Rick Perry's sobriety and sanity. olddad56 Mar 2015 #12
While he's at it, he should also question Chris Christie's loyalty rocktivity Mar 2015 #16
TomCADem Diclotican Mar 2015 #17
Wait a minute...wasn't he just calling Scott Walker's comments inappropriate? Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #18
Nobody questions Perry's intelligence... BillZBubb Mar 2015 #19
This isn't a joke and Democrats need to push back forcefully. cheapdate Mar 2015 #21
But will he reveal where is dark money comes from? world wide wally Mar 2015 #22
Doesn't Perry have a trial to prepare for, rather than questioning Hillary's character? Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #24
And the interviewer then said, "Well, how do you explain your desire to secede from the nation?" Vinca Mar 2015 #25
Boom goes the dynamite! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #26
So this isn't just a DU phenomina? stone space Mar 2015 #27
What gets me is the Republicans are using that tactic, Jamastiene Mar 2015 #31
I detest Rick Perry, but this IS going to be a problem for the HRC camp. closeupready Mar 2015 #29
Only for those conflating charitable donations with campaign donations. Orsino Mar 2015 #33
Goodhair is an idiot Gothmog Mar 2015 #30
Sadly it is progress for a republican to question the loyalty of a white Democrat rather than pampango Mar 2015 #32

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
14. Exactly! Spot on post
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:23 PM
Mar 2015

A republican with an IQ of even 90 would see this, and deep down squirm a little at the lame-ness of the flag-waving tactics.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
2. If "loyalty" should be questioned...
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 06:45 PM
Mar 2015

It should be for Pukes and Baggers, that have done their damnedest to destroy the lives of millions of honest Americans, as well as America herself.

Infuriating.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
28. Exactly!!! These individuals are doing their damnedest to destroy America. Each and
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 10:04 AM
Mar 2015

everything they propose/do destroys lives of Americans. Frankly, IMO, many of them have some serious personality issues.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
3. A Republican wants to talk about flirting with foreign governments? >cough cough<
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 06:47 PM
Mar 2015

>cough< Israel >cough cough< Netanyahu >cough<

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lastlib

(23,287 posts)
20. >cough< Reagan >cough< selling missiles to Iran >cough< Oliver North >cough<
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 09:31 PM
Mar 2015

>cough< dealing with Iran to hold hostages until after election >cough< I think I'm getting whooping cough..........

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Where does most of the funding go? Not in the US. I am thinking there is a lot
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 06:48 PM
Mar 2015

Of trust in the CGI and a good place to donate money. People like Perry have to dig low to find a problem if this is the best he can do.

It is time his camp with the special rock sign hit the front pages.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
5. Clinton foundation isn't it global...
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 06:50 PM
Mar 2015

I haven't heard anything about the Bush's foundation.........................have you.

rpannier

(24,338 posts)
6. And Rick Perry's fleeting moment of genius is tossed aside
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 06:57 PM
Mar 2015

He should have stuck with his criticism of Walker and shut up

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
7. Something tells me though that they would howl if the investigation was into where
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 06:57 PM
Mar 2015

the money is coming from for the varies PACs that support the varies Republicans themselves though.

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
8. The Clinton Foundation is a charity, but now would be a good time...
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:03 PM
Mar 2015

... to look into how much foreign money is pouring into conservative PACs.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
9. This guy?
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:06 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/rick-perry-secession_n_2120453.html

Several years ago, however, Perry declined to rule out the possibility that Texas could secede from the United States if significant changes weren't made to the nation's economic policies.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," he said at a Tea Party rally in 2009, CNN reported at the time. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

The Texas governor raised eyebrows when he said, "When we came into the nation in 1845, we were a republic, we were a stand-alone nation," adding, "And one of the deals was, we can leave anytime we want. So we’re kind of thinking about that again."

Last year, Perry sought to clarify his position on the issue during an interview on Fox News. He pointed out that he "never used" the term "secession" in discussing the matter and said that he had "no idea" why anyone would suggest otherwise.

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
10. So, Hillary is not loyal and Obama does not love America.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:09 PM
Mar 2015

I guess Republicans think that the only worthy and patriotic Americans are those who are conservative.

What utter rubbish!!!

riversedge

(70,304 posts)
13. It gets rather boring to me. Yet, I know
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:16 PM
Mar 2015

that this long term sustained rhetoric will instill more hate.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
16. While he's at it, he should also question Chris Christie's loyalty
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:44 PM
Mar 2015

His wife's Superstorm Sandy charity accepted a donation from the United Arab Emirates embassy. Or does it make a difference with him if the money doesn't go directly into her pocket? It took her until last October to disburse the $35 million they collected -- what happened to the two years' worth of interest?
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/07/christie_accepts_45m_donation_from_united_arab_emirates_for_sandy_relief_to_schools.html


rocktivity

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
17. TomCADem
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 08:00 PM
Mar 2015

TomCADem

Back to the 1950s aren't we where many thousands of innocent people was attacked, and their Rights under the law violated grossly, on the pretext they was not loyal to the US - but rather to some other nations - mostly the russians....

The GOP are really out of their mind - both claiming to be the only one who is loyal tot he US - but even then flirting more or less open with secession and was indeed sheering on Bundy, back in the summer of 2014 - and who also have been flirting with some rather unpleasant extreme right wing groups...

And the worst is - it is maybe enough people out there who is willing to elect people like Rick Perry - into national office - as they have being doing with the current crop of GOP leadership in Senate and Congress.. I'm not surprising if they are able to even elect them to the White House to be honest - not after enough people managed to elect George Walker Bush jr to the office....

Diclotican

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
18. Wait a minute...wasn't he just calling Scott Walker's comments inappropriate?
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 08:51 PM
Mar 2015

Which way is it Governor Goodhair? You may be better looking than our governor, but I'm not sure you're any smarter.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
21. This isn't a joke and Democrats need to push back forcefully.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 12:05 AM
Mar 2015

This line of attack, repeated over and over, WORKS, and they KNOW IT.

It has an effect over time. It persuades wobbly undecided voters and strengthens Republican base turnout.

It's not a joke.

It needs to be called out forcefully for the muckraking, reprehensible, dishonorable smear campaign that it is.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
24. Doesn't Perry have a trial to prepare for, rather than questioning Hillary's character?
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:21 AM
Mar 2015

Last edited Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:19 AM - Edit history (1)


Gov. Rick Perry of Texas Is Indicted on Charge of Abuse of Power


By MANNY FERNANDEZ
AUG. 15, 2014

AUSTIN, Tex. — A grand jury indicted Gov. Rick Perry on two felony counts on Friday, charging that he abused his power last year when he tried to pressure the district attorney here, a Democrat, to step down by threatening to cut off state financing to her office.

The indictment left Mr. Perry, a Republican, the first Texas governor in nearly 100 years to face criminal charges and presented a major roadblock to his presidential ambitions at the very time that he had been showing signs of making a comeback.

Grand jurors in Travis County charged Mr. Perry with abusing his official capacity and coercing a public servant, according to Michael McCrum, the special prosecutor assigned to the case.

The long-simmering case has centered on Mr. Perry’s veto power as governor. His critics asserted that he used that power as leverage to try to get an elected official — Rosemary Lehmberg, the district attorney in Travis County — to step down after her arrest on a drunken-driving charge last year. Ms. Lehmberg is Austin’s top prosecutor and oversees a powerful public corruption unit that investigates state, local and federal officials; its work led to the 2005 indictment of a former Republican congressman, Tom DeLay, on charges of violating campaign finance laws.




More of this article at --
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/us/gov-rick-perry-of-texas-is-indicted-over-veto-of-funds-for-das-office.html

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
25. And the interviewer then said, "Well, how do you explain your desire to secede from the nation?"
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:27 AM
Mar 2015

If only someone would confront these asshats when they come out with this blather.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. Boom goes the dynamite!
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:33 AM
Mar 2015

Dead on. No one who has talked about secession gets to question anyone else's loyalty to the country.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
27. So this isn't just a DU phenomina?
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 09:13 AM
Mar 2015

I was a bit taken aback when I saw this thread, but I guess that it must be a rather common political tactic, if mainstream politicians like Rick Perry are using it, too, and not just folks here at DU.



I must say that I find it a rather unconvincing tactic.


Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
31. What gets me is the Republicans are using that tactic,
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:09 PM
Mar 2015

and Third Way Democrats are turning around and demanding loyalty from the left instead of using that tactic against the people they should be, the Republicans. Talk about misplaced aggression.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
33. Only for those conflating charitable donations with campaign donations.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:27 PM
Mar 2015

I suppose it's the political clmate, in which "taking money" is so accepted that it all looks like one big, blurry mountain of cash.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
32. Sadly it is progress for a republican to question the loyalty of a white Democrat rather than
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:15 PM
Mar 2015

just that of a Black president. Perhaps this will help revel their shallowness and partisanship to those who could not recognize it when charges were directed only at Obama.

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