Landmark net neutrality rules win FCC approval in party-line 3-2 vote
Source: LA Times
In a landmark decision for the future of the Internet, the Federal Communications Commission on Thursday approved tough net neutrality regulations to oversee online traffic.
The new rules prohibit Internet service providers from discriminating against legal content flowing through their wired or wireless networks, such as by charging websites for faster delivery of video and other data to consumers.
In an expected 3-2 party-line vote, the agency's Democrat majority approved a plan by FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler that puts broadband providers in the same legal category as more highly regulated conventional telephone companies.
Wheeler has promised a modernized, light-touch regulatory approach that would exempt Internet service from many of the tougher provisions of that designation under Title 2 of the telecommunications law, particularly rate regulation.
Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-net-neutrality-fcc-vote-20150226-story.html
Drale
(7,932 posts)because he was bashing Net Neutrality
valerief
(53,235 posts)pkdu
(3,977 posts)/Sarc off
House of Roberts
(5,179 posts).
villager
(26,001 posts)this week.
Have been busy with work so not checking in much, but always glad to see the guy I was voting for back in '08 show up in policies, and affect! So let me say it: Thanks, Obama!
now on to getting back our 4th Amendment, slowing the Atlantic oil drilling, stopping the wolf slaughter, etc..!
Robbins
(5,066 posts)this is good news.
TBF
(32,084 posts)he's already on Twitter making asshole comments about it.
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)when our side makes Teddy whine in defeat.
elzenmahn
(904 posts)the Senator from Edmonton is a dependable parrot for his donors.
TBF
(32,084 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)DocMac
(1,628 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)because of TPP or some corporate or Republican weasel tactics.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Most certainly, there's folks somewhere - plotting how they can step around this. Capitalism HATES level playing fields.
AngryDem001
(684 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)Resorting to Great Depression-era rules will trigger a stampede to the courts, unleashing years of lawsuits and uncertainty at a time when U.S. leadership and the Internet economy are more important than ever. We believe the Internet has worked well under current rules, but we were and we remain willing to come to the table with legislation to answer the calls for legally sustainable consumer protections for the free and open Internet that has fostered a generation of innovation, economic growth, and global empowerment.
- See more at: http://energycommerce.house.gov/press-release/subcommtech-members-respond-fccs-unprecedented-regulation-internet#sthash.mOHcMgqo.dpuf
Robbins
(5,066 posts)so we know it's good news
City Lights
(25,171 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,151 posts)My log home can only use satellite reception and it's painfully slow. 37% of all content is video now, and it's slowing down the interwebs everywhere.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)So if there's enough people in the area, you might be able to get together and get faster service.
If there's very few people there, then you're going to have to wait for something like we did for rural telephone and electrical service.
blogslut
(38,007 posts)To all the millions of individuals who posted their comments on the FCC's site - this victory is yours. You made this difference.
Maven
(10,533 posts)However this reclassification offers the best chance at withstanding legal challenges to net neutrality rules.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)tjl148
(185 posts)Did I miss something on what the FCC is doing?
Maven
(10,533 posts)Shame on you LA Times.
GuntherGebelWilliams
(58 posts)When these new regulations are implemented the FCC will finally be a centralized place for right thinking people to lodge complaints against web content that is blatantly false misleading and overall harmful to society.
Our next President has said that She agreed with President Barack Obamas decision to try to regulate the Internet like a utility. But she said Congress should undertake a comprehensive legislative approach that addresses more than net neutrality. Its a foot in the door, its a value statement, Clinton said. I think the president is right to be upfront and out front on that.
And we know She'll go after disgusting sites like Drudge, Breitbart, Freeperville and all the others that have been lying and going after Her and Bill all these years.
I can hardly wait to start filing complaints with the FCC about certain activities on the internet!
pampango
(24,692 posts)this would have gone the other way.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)that's all I can say
WillyT
(72,631 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,304 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Wheeler has promised a modernized, light-touch regulatory approach that would exempt Internet service from many of the tougher provisions of that designation under Title 2 of the telecommunications law, particularly rate regulation.
They will get that money they were after. Watch the rates rise.
BumRushDaShow
(129,304 posts)is going to find a way, a loophole, a nebulous paragraph, to "get theirs". As long as private entities exist, there is little around that outside of nationalizing them (e.g., the private, interstate utilities are run by the government)....Which could be dangerous if the "nation" is run by fascist types.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)by both other Democrats on the committee (both Republicans approved). Milions of American signed petitions and sent emails to protest Mr. Wheeler's proposal. Apparently he changed his mind. I am glad for the participation of the American people.
BumRushDaShow
(129,304 posts)It's like a fucking broken record here on DU. A 6-year trail of FAIL. Never any benefit of the doubt permitted. Always repetitive nonsense insisting on "actions rather than words" and when the "actions" DO occur, they are summarily dismissed because they don't fit the DU-concocted version of the current President.
It's a miracle to see a few finally giving credit where credit is due but others will never yield, and at this point, I personally don't give a shit whether they do or not.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Millions of Americans contacted him and he changed his mind. How does Obama get credit?
BumRushDaShow
(129,304 posts)Elizabeth Warren was for Republicans (and was an active one herself) before she was against them.
How does she get credit for anything? Give up. The disconnect and hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Cha
(297,481 posts)More than any other invention of our time, the Internet has unlocked possibilities we could just barely imagine a generation ago. And here's a big reason we've seen such incredible growth and innovation: Most Internet providers have treated Internet traffic equally. That's a principle known as "net neutrality" and it says that an entrepreneur's fledgling company should have the same chance to succeed as established corporations, and that access to a high school student's blog shouldn't be unfairly slowed down to make way for advertisers
http://www.whitehouse.gov/net-neutrality
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/02/26/a-tweet-or-two-and-ggails-birthday/
BRDS!
BumRushDaShow
(129,304 posts)Much of this President's strategy has been to make people ENGAGE and be a part of what happens to their lives. Too many would rather sit back and get ready for March Madness and let others craft the environment that will impact them. And that's because some on both extremes of the political spectrum, make it their goal to distort and taint the information needed to determine what one can or should do.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)C Moon
(12,219 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)Net Neutrality will be one of the key fights of this generation.
This is why I would continue voting Democrat. Even if it is no more than voting in the least of the two evils. As long as they stick to their position when/if Hillary and Goldman Sachs are in charge. We all thought Obama would never agree to the health bill without a public option included either.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)He always manages to do something that reminds me.
Kudos Mr. President.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)that favored the industry and not net neutrality, you guys said it wasn't Obama's fault. That he appointed Mr. Wheeler and it was Wheeler's responsibility. Now that the protests of millions of Americans changed Mr. Wheeler's mind, you want to give the credit to the President.
I am glad that Americans were proactive enough to get Mr. Wheeler to change his mind.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Obama said he favored it, Wheeler certainly listened to the people, the process worked.
This is in contrast to detractors who claimed Wheeler, a lobbyist for the industry, would never listen to the people.
The process worked.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)contacted Mr Wheeler to get him to change his mind. If it would have been up to him, he would have dumped net neutrality as his first proposal suggested. His first proposal was approved by the two Republicons on the committee and not approved by the two Democrats. That whole process should never have happened.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)But neither Obama or Wheeler are allowed to have any credit whatsoever.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)had the President appointed someone that favored consumers and not the industry.
His initial proposal favored the industry at the expense of net neutrality and was strongly opposed by the two real Democrats on the committee. He had to be forced by millions of people to change his mind.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)He "mulled" ie listened to what the corporations wanted. Any changes have to go through a public comment period by law. When that public comment period was over then he decided. What we got today was his proposal. It will still be tested in courts.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)There is a ton of info on the internets. Note the referal to Mr. Wheeler's "new proposal".
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/08/1297841/-FCC-commissioner-asks-for-delay-net-neutrality-rules#
The day after around 150 Internet and tech companies asked FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler to remove discriminatory loopholes from his net neutrality proposal, another large coalition comprised of everything from consumer advocates to educators to Reddit to the Harry Potter Alliance has written to both Wheeler and President Obama, calling for the FCC to drop the controversial plan to allow Internet fast lanes.
http://consumerist.com/2014/05/08/a-second-large-coalition-calls-on-white-house-fcc-to-not-screw-up-net-neutrality/
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)If it were a "proposal" they would've voted on it. They are talking about delaying a proposal to vote on. Show me the text of his "proposal." "News reports" are talking about people in on the meetings and the various ways to achieve an end goal. Yes the halfway measures were discussed, but it's clear that they weren't needed and that Wheeler didn't find them necessary after careful consideration.
The only proposal Wheeler put forth was what was voted upon today. The potential halfway measures were never proposed to a vote.
Cha
(297,481 posts)More than any other invention of our time, the Internet has unlocked possibilities we could just barely imagine a generation ago. And here's a big reason we've seen such incredible growth and innovation: Most Internet providers have treated Internet traffic equally. That's a principle known as "net neutrality" and it says that an entrepreneur's fledgling company should have the same chance to succeed as established corporations, and that access to a high school student's blog shouldn't be unfairly slowed down to make way for advertisers
http://www.whitehouse.gov/net-neutrality
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/02/26/a-tweet-or-two-and-ggails-birthday/
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Man it feels good.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Let's remember how it came about, though. Without thousands, if not millions, of people objecting, we could very well have lost this.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Had Romney won in 2012, he would've appointed someone other than Wheeler and this would've likely gone the other way 3-2 against net neutrality.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Democrats on the committee and approved by the two Republicons on the committee. It took millions of Americans sending letters and emails to get the industry champion to change his mind.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/08/1297841/-FCC-commissioner-asks-for-delay-net-neutrality-rules#
The day after around 150 Internet and tech companies asked FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler to remove discriminatory loopholes from his net neutrality proposal, another large coalition comprised of everything from consumer advocates to educators to Reddit to the Harry Potter Alliance has written to both Wheeler and President Obama, calling for the FCC to drop the controversial plan to allow Internet fast lanes.
http://consumerist.com/2014/05/08/a-second-large-coalition-calls-on-white-house-fcc-to-not-screw-up-net-neutrality/
I do agree that under a Republicon it would never have happened and I approve of the results.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,019 posts)"Oh my yes that's a powerful new force"
(Happy about the decision! )
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)who resides in our present court system.
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)NPR to their credit just mentioned it in a prime time news update.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)"We seek a free flow of
information...a nation that is
afraid to let the people judge
the truth and falsehood in an
open market is a nation afraid
of it's people."--Pres. John F.
Kennedy, Feb., 1962
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I'm on the fence on this. Title II incorporation means that the government now has the power, if it wishes, to say "no porn on the Internet" like it does with TV. Or say "no political websites". Or whatever.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Tom Wheeler even came out and said, expressly, "This is no more a plan to regulate the internet than the first amendment is a plan to regulate free speech."
Obscenity is only under the prevue of the FCC with regards to radio communication to broadcast TVs, so they're limited in that vein, anyway, I don't think they've been granted more power to regulate obscenity over the wire.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Yes, access to the Internet should be open and low cost, and priority should not be given to those with deep pockets.
But does this give the FCC the power to regulate content like they do on TV? That is extremely worrisome.