American Crossroads Uses Elizabeth Warren Speech To Bash Hillary Clinton

[DonViejo]

Source: TPM

A new attack ad from the Karl Rove-founded super PAC, American Crossroads, is taking aim at former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over her family foundation's acceptance of donations from foreign governments. And it's using the words of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) to do it.

The ad, entitled "Rigged," features text from recent Wall Street Journal reporting on The Clinton Foundation's receipt of contributions from foreign governments. (Most recently, the foundation stated it would rethink whether to accept those type of donations.)

Images of Clinton with foreign leaders from the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar appear on screen, while audio plays of Warren commenting on how "powerful interests have tried to capture Washington and rig the system in their favor."

"The power of well-funded special interests tilts our democracy away from the people and toward the powerful," Warren said in the ad.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/crossroads-hillary-clinton-warren-clinton-foundation

[L0oniX]

1. +1 K & R for the truth. Let the chips fall where they may.

"The power of well-funded special interests tilts our democracy away from the people and toward the powerful,"

[laserhaas]

15. I'm against Hillary (unless she wins the nom)

But, it is bad form, to help the propaganda machinations of Rove --

as worse.

[L0oniX]

19. The Warren quote is the truth ...no matter who quotes it.

[laserhaas]

28. Hitler said things that are true too.

But I don't go around pointing those things out - because "that" item, works for me.

If a bad guy is utilizing a quote - we don't repeat it - just because its true.

Toilet paper works wonders on a hemorrhoid aggravated during a flu flushing;
but it's not something to be repeated during dinner.

Don't Help the Bad Guys!

I'm just sayin......

[L0oniX]

30. Ah so now Warren is like Hitler. Nice.

[laserhaas]

31. That's your problem. I'm a yid and you twist the logic, to set your tone

Just as bad as Rove doing this....

you missed the point(s) entirely;
because you are blind to your fostering(s)

[L0oniX]

43. You also missed a point. Now when we quote Warren others here will say ...so does Rove.

[laserhaas]

44. You've acted in bad faith - putting words in my mouth

and - hence - I'm done with you....

[Jackpine Radical]

27. What Warren said is not only true,

it was given in a very different context and not directed at Hillary. The connection between the statement and Hillary is a fabrication of the ad maker.

[laserhaas]

29. Love Elizabeth Warren and wished she Would Run for POTUS

and be front runner with a super protective security detail.

As Warren is a RWNJ's nightmare - almost as much as JFK

[Jackpine Radical]

33. She's a threat to Wall St. & the banks as well.

And that's even more dangerous.

[laserhaas]

42. AMEN! -- She's also a pro attorney in Bankruptcy Law and more

One like her or Sanders or JV in the WH

would be frigg'n awesome!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

37. Have 2 agree w/ u on this 1- so many of Hillary's positions r subject 2 legitimate criticism, we don't need 2 validate that pig Rove.

[laserhaas]

45. Exactly!

Especially when it is an obfuscation - incongruous....

[onehandle]

2. Karl Rove Attacks Likely Democratic Nominee

His billionaire funded PAC did the same to Obama.

Hmm...

[yurbud]

24. Republicans were sure Hillary would be the nominee in 2008 too

and they were wrong.

[onehandle]

25. They might be again. If she doesn't run, she won't be nominee.

Period.

[yurbud]

46. the only thing that would stop her is a health problem that would finish her off before

election day--or a primary opponent who knocks her out of the race early.

[onehandle]

48. There is no primary opponent who could knock her out early...

...so I guess it's up to a health problem.

Or her just not running.

[zeemike]

3. Well we should not be surprised at this.

Divide and conquer is a fundamental principle...He wants us to fight.

[RufusTFirefly]

9. Bingo. As do some on this board. n/t

[yurbud]

54. it's better to fight than fall in line behind a candidate that will screw you

[RufusTFirefly]

55. I totally agree with you. My bad for making my post ambiguous

I was trying to tread a very fine line without naming names.
I think that left my message murky.

[fredamae]

4. Projection at Best...

their critique totally applicable to Self (Amer. Crossroads), not HRC so much imo

[NorthCarolina]

5. Clinton is not only just a stooge for the 1% like the rest of the DLC cronies,

but she carries WAY TOO MUCH BAGGAGE for the GOP to take advantage of. The conjectured Clinton inevitability would be a guaranteed loss for Democrats IMO.

[Thinkingabout]

51. Sounds similar to crap I heard coming out of Bill Kristol's mouth.

[Jack Rabbit]

6. I guess that's proof that the far right really has nothing to say

That's real desperation when they have to borrow a progressive argument to say something.

Thank you, Karl Rove, for putting Senator Warren front and center. Now, would you like to put images of the Frat Boy meeting with those same foreign leaders? Be careful that you you don't run a clip with you in the background, grinning like a Cheshire cat.

It's so nice of you to point out that Mrs. Clinton is part of the problem. I know that. Now, how much money does American Crossroads take from billionaires trying to rig the system? How much money did the Koch brothers give to make that ad? How is American Crossroads not part of the very same problem? How are you not part of the problem?

Now sit down, shut up and let those of us who believe in democracy sort this out.

[JDPriestly]

16. Republican voters could care less if the Bushs take Saudi money (which they did and probably

still do). But Democratic voters will care. I care. Most of us care.

Bill and Hillary should not have taken that money. It creates a conflict of interest.

This is just one careless act by the Clintons that make a Hillary candidacy a very risky matter for Democrats.

[candelista]

23. No, they couldn't care less.

If they could care less, then they must care, at least some. But they don't care at all. So they couldn't care less, because they are already at zero. This is not a grammatical point, but a logical one.

[JDPriestly]

34. Thanks for the logic. I will probably make the same mistake over and over. It's an expression

I heard as a child. Hard to wipe off the slate in my brain.

[candelista]

59. The "n't" goes unheard.

I think that's the problem.

[Jackpine Radical]

35. Whoever said idiomatic expressions had to withstand logical tests?

[JDPriestly]

40. I enjoy that sort of subjecting illogical idioms to logical tests. It's fun. It doesn't change my

sloppy use of language though. Never. My language is part of who I am. Typos and all. Why lie about it. there for their is one of my favorite mistakes.

[Jackpine Radical]

41. I have discovered that going literalist on people

is as good a technique as any for making them crazy, assuming that is your goal.

This is what puts the fun in it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. Well said. These kind of "unforced errors" which are comin more & more frequently these days, exposes Hillary's weakness as a candidate.

[arcane1]

26. Remember "We Built This" as their convention motto?

They have NOTHING to say

[Jack Rabbit]

38. Interesting that you brought that up

"I built this" (IIRC, it was first person singular, to emphasize the American myth of rugged individualism) was a motto aimed directly at Ms. Warren.
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[Agnosticsherbet]

7. OMG Rove supports Warren!!

Of course not. He is just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

It isn't his money he is spending.

[OKNancy]

8. FWIW, when she was Secretary of State they did not accept the contributions

but now she is a regular citizen so they reinstated taking them.
Oh, and it's perfectly legal.

It's sickening that some use this to bash her when the Foundation does such good work, and it doesn't go to them personally.

[EileenFB]

10. Thanks for pointing that out

I'm pretty sure if/when she decides to run there will be changes on a few thing by the foundation. I hope they do not respond to this attack ad by Rove's group (let's have him open the books on his group btw) because one thing I don't want is for her to give him legitimacy.

[JDPriestly]

18. She needs to choose between taking money from the Saudis, etc. for her foundation and running

for president. This could look to many like a pay-off.

Siegelman is in federal prison for far, far less.

Giving money to a favorite charity of a politician can be a form of political payback.

Hillary has too many problems like this.

I understand that many people love her and support her. But this is one of the main reasons that I do not support her. She has so much baggage that her campaign will be one distraction after the other.

Our country has huge problems to solve. This is not the time to nominate a Clinton because explaining all kinds of political and personal mistakes will take so much time we won't be able to talk about the issues we need to deal with.

Bernie Sanders has a pretty clean background in spite of the socialist label he attached to himself. Elizabeth Warren apparently has a few personal problems, but we should look into her candidacy more carefully. There may be others whose candidacies would be less controversial than Hillary's.

Hillary and Bill can still do a lot of good for America as unofficial ambassadors as Jimmy Carter has done. That would be the best job for Hillary right now.

[OKNancy]

21. LOL - Warren isn't running and Bernie can't win the general

Yes, they will do good... when they are in the White House come Jan. 2017.

[JDPriestly]

32. Warren will run if we press her to run.

Bernie could very well win. He speaks to the concerns of the American people.

Haven't heard much at all from Hillary on the questions of our day. I know a lot about her stances on yesterday's issues, but not on those of today.

[WhoWoodaKnew]

11. EVERYTHING they do is designed to get more republicans to win more elections

EVERYTHING


EVERYTHING




Then they can implement their plans.




Just think of that.

[DonCoquixote]

12. OK, here is what will happen

Becuase Karl Rove did this, now certain people that need not be named (because they post here on DU all the time) will say "see see Liz is hurting Hillary Liz is hurting Hillary Burn the witch Burn the witch!"

[OKNancy]

13. No, people will blame Karl Rove and the folks who give any credence to this b.s.

[Jim Lane]

47. I wish you were right, but some posts in this thread show otherwise.

To my mind, the obvious point of the OP is to expose the latest Rove sliminess. In this case it's quoting Elizabeth Warren but putting the quotation in a false context. Rove is being actively misleading. As you say, he certainly deserves to be blamed.

Unfortunately, not everyone (not even everyone on DU) sees it that way.

[JDPriestly]

14. OK Hillary supporters.

We've got a problem here. The Clinton's taking money for their foundation, albeit for charitable causes, looks really bad to average Joe America and to me.

I know a lot of people have their hearts set on a Hillary presidency. But she and Bill have done a lot of things that could make that an impossibility. It's time now to think through whether she is really the most viable candidate.

I think she is not. I think that there are just too many of these little problems and that they will muddy the waters when she tries to wade into campaigning.

I've got pretty good instincts about this sort of thing. I don't see how she can overcome the avalanche of suspicion and innuendo that will undermine her campaign if she runs. She and Bill have been somewhat careless about the sort of thing that the OP describes. Too careless. It leaves a perception of corruption even if their relationships with the donors are of the purest sort. It's not good for a presidential candidate.

[candelista]

22. Trouble is....

...this will not prevent her from winning the nomination, only the election.

[onehandle]

49. Who are these 'Hillary supporters?'

As far as I know, she hasn't declared anything.

What are these 'supporters' supporting?

[JDPriestly]

53. Hoperully, nothing. I hope that term means absolutely nothing.

[groundloop]

17. "Images of Clinton with foreign leaders.." - well DUHHH, she was Secretary of State

And let's see Rove open HIS books, I'd be hugely amazed if he doesn't have huge contributions from foreign governments.

And furthermore, the stated goal of the Clinton Foundation is"We convene businesses, governments, NGOs, and individuals to improve global health and wellness, increase opportunity for women and girls, reduce childhood obesity, create economic opportunity and growth, and help communities address the effects of climate change." Why the hell wouldn't they accept donations from foreigners?

Rove is such a fucking blow-hard, please please please let's not allow him to make this mud-slinging stick.

[L0oniX]

20. Great. So now if anyone quotes Warren they will be accused of being turdlidites.

[muriel_volestrangler]

36. No quote from Warren? Poor journalism

When a well-funded special interest group like American Crossroads quotes her words, but pretends they don't apply to American Crossroads, I'm sure Warren has something to say about that. They didn't phone for a quote? Get a "we'll be putting out a statement"?

We all know that Warren is dead against American Crossroads and groups like it. There's no way she's "meh" about them trying to use her words to their advantage.

[onehandle]

50. Do you think her office hasn't been called constantly since this web ad appeared?

Clearly no comment has been offered.

[muriel_volestrangler]

52. I'd expect them to say "we asked for a comment, but they refused"

No, I don't think it's clear. That's why it's bad journalism; they ought to make a key part of the story clear, one way or another.

[pampango]

56. The HuffPo article said, "A spokeswoman for Warren wasn't immediately available to comment on her

level of outrage."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/23/karl-rove-elizabeth-warren_n_6736832.html

Perhaps we will hear from her today.

[Thor_MN]

57. Amazing that symbology fearing conservativess would go to the crossroads.

Joe Barton recently kicked up a fuss as his bill was assigned number 666. Conservatives, as least the religious ones, avoid symbols. In many mythologies, especially in the South, one goes to the crossroads to summon a demon to make a deal with the devil. American Crossroads is KKKarl's Superpac and these same religious idjits have no trouble lining up to hand over their money....

[workinclasszero]

58. Rove?

Damn thats a shame.