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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:51 AM Feb 2015

Netanyahu: 'Astonishing' That Talks Continue With Iran Despite It Hiding Info From IAEA

Source: Jerusalem Post

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, slated to travel next week to the US for his controversial address to Congress, seemed to put to final rest any speculation he might postpone it, telling his cabinet that March is a “critical” month vis-a-vis Iran’s nuclear program.

Referring to the International Atomic Energy Agency’s recent report expressing concern that Iran is hiding elements – possibly military ones – of its nuclear program, Netanyahu said Sunday it was “astonishing” that the talks with Tehran are still continuing.

“Not only are they continuing, there is an increased effort to reach a nuclear agreement in the coming days and weeks,” he said. “Therefore, the coming month is critical for the nuclear talks between Iran and the major powers because a framework agreement is liable to be signed that will allow Iran to develop the nuclear capabilities that threaten our existence.”

Netanyahu reiterated his position that such an agreement is a significant threat to Israel and, “therefore, I will go to the US next week in order to explain to the American Congress, which could influence the fate of the agreement, why this agreement is dangerous for Israel, the region and the entire world.”

Read more: http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-Puzzling-talks-continue-with-Iran-despite-its-involvement-in-global-terror-391786

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Netanyahu: 'Astonishing' That Talks Continue With Iran Despite It Hiding Info From IAEA (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2015 OP
astonishing that israel keeps stealing land from palestinians in plain sight nt msongs Feb 2015 #1
Is Iran expected to build a bomb and immediately nuke Israel, reagardless of the consequences? arcane1 Feb 2015 #2
Netanyahoo: the pot calling the kettle black, if there ever was one. forest444 Feb 2015 #3
Trying to find an article I read earlier regarding the well known international black market nuclear JonLP24 Feb 2015 #7
Will Israel fess up and allow the IAEA to inspect their nukes? kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #4
Don't you know that sulphurdunn Feb 2015 #23
Its astonishing that perhaps a diplomatic solution can be achieved... Historic NY Feb 2015 #5
US was hiding info as well from the IAEA JonLP24 Feb 2015 #6
That is kind of the point Snow Leopard Feb 2015 #9
Iran has probably made more compromises & accepted sanctions than probably anybody JonLP24 Feb 2015 #10
You can't violate something you haven't signed Tempest Feb 2015 #14
It would be nice to see the Israeli electorate reject this guy. No luck so far, though. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #8
Kick. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #11
Get oil out of politics. Helen Borg Feb 2015 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #13
Bibi's bloviating continues. blackspade Feb 2015 #15
Perhaps pissing Obama off was not a good idea? nt bemildred Feb 2015 #16
If he wants to start a war with Iran..... Adrahil Feb 2015 #17
Exactly.. sendero Feb 2015 #18
Tell that to a US congress sulphurdunn Feb 2015 #24
A stable Iran is best for everyone, even Israel. hunter Feb 2015 #19
+1. nt bemildred Feb 2015 #20
+1 LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #22
Why this agreement is dangerous for Netanyahu's re-election, more like it! LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #21
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. Is Iran expected to build a bomb and immediately nuke Israel, reagardless of the consequences?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:01 AM
Feb 2015

It's absurd.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
7. Trying to find an article I read earlier regarding the well known international black market nuclear
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:37 AM
Feb 2015

trafficker. I came across a good interview instead. The key points of the article was the indifference & US wasn't cooperating with other nations (Nordic I believe, Swiss I think) in their prosecution.

FP: Your international reputation is that you were a rogue agent when Pakistan supplied centrifuge technology to Libya, Iran, and North Korea. How do you respond to this label? How would you prefer to be remembered?

AQK: I don’t care what Western leaders think about me. To them a pirate like Francis Drake becomes Sir Francis; James Cook, who murdered innocent Polynesians, is a hero and those who murdered Iraqis, Afghans, Vietnamese, and Koreans now have chests full of ribbons and medals. [Former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem] Begin, [former President George W.] Bush, [former British Prime Minister Tony] Blair, [former French President Nicolas] Sarkozy, etc. who all caused (ordered) the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people are highly respected.

Whatever I did, I did in good faith and upon instructions from authorities. Since then, many senior army officers and politicians have openly said in TV programmes that I did not do anything wrong and that, by taking sole blame, I had saved the country a second time by thwarting Security Council resolutions against our nuclear programme. Nobody in Pakistan doubts my integrity, honesty, sincerity or patriotism. It is this that I care about. I am not going to live or die in their countries, hence I don’t care. Pakistani historians will remember me by the nickname they have given me: "Mohsin-e-Pakistan" (Saviour of Pakistan).

FP: Do you have any regrets about your role in the transfer of nuclear technology to these countries?

AQK: I did not do anything wrong, hence no regrets. I simply did as I was asked to do. Does France have any regrets about surreptitiously supplying nuclear weapons technology to Israel? Does Russia regret supplying that technology to China and North Korea? Do the British have regrets about stealing secrets from Los Alamos in the late forties or early fifties? There are many double standards in the world. What is good for me may be bad for you. What is just for you may be a crime for me.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/09/04/aq-khan-speaks-to-foreign-policy/

Its hard to find fault with his arguments.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
23. Don't you know that
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:44 PM
Feb 2015

you must be an anti-Semite, a hater of Israel and a drinker of virgin's blood not to know what an "existential" threat Iran is to an armed to the teeth, expansionist, belligerent, and chauvinistic, nuclear armed Israel is. It's a bigger threat than Palestinian kids who throw rocks at Israel Occupation Force soldiers.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
5. Its astonishing that perhaps a diplomatic solution can be achieved...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:14 AM
Feb 2015

Israel apparently doesn't believe in any.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
6. US was hiding info as well from the IAEA
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:22 AM
Feb 2015

as to why a Russian scientist was in Iran in the 90's.

Besides, who keeps more nuclear secrets than Israel? They are one of the few countries not on the NPT and made black market deals for "yellowcake" in the 60's.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
10. Iran has probably made more compromises & accepted sanctions than probably anybody
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:47 AM
Feb 2015

Iran is quite clear in their claims regarding energy independence & Iran has done very well in achieving that goal. 75% is powered by renewable energy.

I didn't know or up-to-speed as to what IAEA activities in the context of NPT, I thought they were interested in nukes anywhere. It becomes obvious given that Iran allows monitors but it baffles me since the vast majority of countries are on the NPT, why aren't many other countries interrogated as often as Iran is?

I guess I don't so the "benefits" of Iran being a member of NPT when Israel will never officially reveal if it has one or not, I'll concede your point but continue with Israel has more secrets about their own nukes than anybody.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
14. You can't violate something you haven't signed
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 07:39 AM
Feb 2015

And the reason Israel hasn't signed onto the NPT is so they don't have to admit they have nuclear weapons.

However, they have most certainly violated international law with their testing of their nukes.

Not to mention committing treason against allies in the espionage they engaged in in obtaining secrets that built their program.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
17. If he wants to start a war with Iran.....
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:58 AM
Feb 2015

... then I suggest he prepare his country for it. I'm sick of the U.S. acting against its own interests in order to "protect" Israel.

I support Obama's efforts to explore every possible means of addressing this issue without violence.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
18. Exactly..
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:08 AM
Feb 2015

... memo to Israel - don't like it? Take care of it yourself. We are not your hired-for-nothing guns. Asshole.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
19. A stable Iran is best for everyone, even Israel.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:08 PM
Feb 2015

I hate to use psychological analogies for the leadership of entire nations, but this seems to be a case of projection. Israel's own nuclear program has involved some very shady characters and dirty dealings.

At this point of human technological development, "Nu-cu-wer Seek-wets" (as Elmer Fudd might say) are all about dirty laundry, not about engineering. The major hurdle stopping nations from building nuclear weapons is economic, and in the case of wealthier nations, simple common sense. It's damned expensive to build nuclear weapons, especially if you are trying to do it secretly in a bunker deep underground; and using them would be suicidal.

But beyond that, if the Bush Family Evil Empire hadn't been so hot to fuck up Iraq, then the Middle East might be a much calmer place. In light of the U.S.A.'s insane stomping of Iraq, Iranian leaders who desire nuclear weapons don't seem especially irrational. Israel's implicit threat of nuclear retaliation against non-nuclear nations is irrational.

Should Israel use nuclear weapons for any reason, they will cease to exist as a nation, not for any nuclear retaliation against them, but as outcasts of the international community.

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
21. Why this agreement is dangerous for Netanyahu's re-election, more like it!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:13 PM
Feb 2015

He and Boehner are using each other for electioneering purposes (sigh), to everyone's detriment in both America and Israel.

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