Fire rips through Dubai skyscraper

[greyl]

Source: BBC

A fire has ripped through the Torch skyscraper in Dubai, one of the tallest residential buildings in the world.

Strong winds are helping the blaze to spread across the 336.1m (1,105ft) building in the marina district.

One witness said it looked like "the Titanic going down", Gulfnews.com reports.

It was not immediately known what caused the fire or whether people were inside the building. There are no reports yet of any casualties.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31562099

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20 February 2015 Last updated at 18:50 ET

[Bosonic]

1. Dubai Torch Tower Ablaze in Dramatic Video

Dubai Torch Tower Ablaze in Dramatic Video

A HUGE fire has broken out at the world’s largest residential building in Dubai.

The blaze at the Marina Torch building is said to spreading after starting on the 50th floor, according to witnesses.

Many people have been evacuated and there have been no casualties reported by the authorities so far.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/dubai-torch-tower-ablaze-dramatic-video/story?id=29117236

[greyl]

2. Thanks, a brief vid here:

[valerief]

3. Torch Tower. Aptly named. nt

[billhicks76]

23. 911

Gee. You think it will collapse like WTC?

[awoke_in_2003]

36. I am not superstitious...

but I don't think I would name such a large building "The Torch"

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

4. Bet my bottom dollar it doesn't collapse.

[Mr.Bill]

6. I don't know enough about construction standards in Dubai

to bet either way. I hope all the people get out safely.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

7. It's a steel beam reinforced structure.

On EDIT: Crap I'm wrong it's a concrete reinforced structure. It could very well come tumbling down.

[Mr.Bill]

9. I wonder what kind of fire protection is built in.

Like sprinklers, smoke detectors, alarms, etc.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

11. Well, there's no doubt they can afford it.

[JHB]

19. "Can afford it" and "builder shelling out money for it" are two different things

[Jamastiene]

26. Precisely.

Those are two completely different things.

[AtheistCrusader]

18. Nah, it's pretty well going to be fine.

You'd need one HELL of a fire to bring that much concrete down. Totally different construction method than the twin towers or WTC7. Very little steel to heat.

Concrete pillars can spall in a fire, but it needs to be a lot of fire. Like, a lot lot, not just dramatic photos at night lot.

[Reter]

24. Well, there have been only three cases where fire collapsed skyscrapers

Both Twin Towers and WTC7. So I'd still bet against it.

[hack89]

29. And we know the WTC were truly unique

so they are irrelevant to Dubai.

[IDemo]

13. No, but one several blocks away unaffected by the fire will..

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

38. Good one!!

[hack89]

39. Only if a much larger building collapses on top of it

causing structural damage and large unfought fires.

[wildbilln864]

44. didn't collapse on top of it either...

more like beside it!

do you not know these things?

[hack89]

45. It still had a 20 story gouge in it's side

So while you split hairs, it is pretty clear it suffered major structural damage. Let's not forget that the FDNY were monitoring a bulge in it's side for several hours before the collapse.

[wildbilln864]

47. "splitting hairs", now that's funny! n/t

[Cooley Hurd]

14. If it does, will the "9/11 Truthers" FINALLY STFU?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

25. Possibly. Are you against learning the truth?

And don't tell me you know the truth because unless you are clairvoyant, you can't.

[seveneyes]

35. Some people would not recognize the truth

If it hitched a ride on the Sun and hit them while it orbited around the Earth.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

37. It's very sad to me.

The little science that we have (the rest was destroyed or sold to China as scrap metal) draws an inescapable conclusion (for open-minded and reasonable thinking people) - the collapse of the twin towers and WTC-7 were in fact ENGINEERED. The real question is - who is responsible? Why was the entire chapter in the 9/11 Commission report regarding foreign government support and involvement in 9/11 withheld as national security sensitive? Why were 15 of 19 hijackers from Saudi Arabia?

[wildbilln864]

40. Abso-freaking-lutely! n/t

[wildbilln864]

51. Sad indeed!

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/science-died-wtc.html

[CentralMass]

54. Some engineers at WPI (Worcester Polytechnic University) in MA did analysis on some the steel beams

from the WTC and determined that the failure mechanism was due to a phenomenon known as eutectic etching

https://www.wpi.edu/.../LaMalva.pdf

Caused during the "heating phase" of the fire.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

55. I would rather listen to the 2,328 engineers and architects that see it other wise.

You may want to sped some time on this site: http://www.ae911truth.org

[snooper2]

56. It's been a while since there was a reason to post TRUTHY on a DU OP eh?

spread the truthy in LBN

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

64. You're a good little soldier.

[wildbilln864]

57. exactly! n/t

[wildbilln864]

58. when and where did they get those beams? and...

wouldn't that also be possibly caused from heat exposure from thermate? Why yes, yes it would.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

59. Don't worry another week-tit rebutal will be coming soon.

[hack89]

28. Fortunately a fully loaded 767 didn't slam into it first. Nt

[wildbilln864]

41. nor did any "fully loaded 767" slam into the WTC towers!

Those planes were not fully loaded that day with either fuel or passengers! did that escape you too?

"The Jet Fuel

In the popular imagination, the jet fuel was the biggest factor in bringing down the towers. News reports emphasized that the transcontinental flights were fully loaded with fuel, while later government reports stated that the 767s were carrying about 10,000 of their 24,000-gallon capacity, and that most of the jet fuel likely burned off within five minutes. Thus, the jet fuel primarily served to ignite the post-crash fires rather than sustain them. "

[hack89]

42. Ok - and that makes a difference how?

250 tons hitting at 500 mph carrying 10,000 gallons of fuel is going to cause a lot of damage, correct?

The WTC were unique because they are the only tall buildings that have been hit by a large planes flying at high speed. So the comparison to Dubai are idiotic.

[wildbilln864]

43. didn't compare them myself but you can stop making shit up about them being fully loaded.

the towers were designed to take the impact of a "fully loaded" passenger plane which would have been close. Multiple impacts even, according to the designer.

[hack89]

46. No they were not

And let's not forget that fires were not accounted for.

[wildbilln864]

48. yes they were...

[hack89]

49. No mention of fire in your clip.

And no mention of actual studies and modelling.

[wildbilln864]

50. ok you go ahead

and mention those "actual studies" that are so elusive and the "modeling" where the parameters were stretched to meet a preset conclusion.

[hack89]

52. No point really

I join these threads thinking I can relive some of the fun interesting threads we had in the old 911 forum. But I am always disappointed- there has been nothing new posted on the subject for years. I don't know why I bother anymore.

[wildbilln864]

53. me either.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

60. They really are not interested in the truth or they would know this already.

Americans are the lowest life form on the planet, from an intellectual curiosity position.

[wildbilln864]

61. i think they know it ...

they just count on most not knowing. Or not even understanding the reasons these things are important.

[LanternWaste]

67. That's an easy and rather convenient bumper-sticker to use when people disagree with a position

"Americans are the lowest life form on the planet, from an intellectual curiosity position..."

That's an easy and rather convenient bumper-sticker to use when people disagree with a position-- and allows one the additional advantage of being self-serving. However, beyond a mere bumper-sticker, it means so very little else...

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

68. Well then you must not know any teabaggers. n/t

[Blue_Tires]

62. 10,000 gallons = (about) 67,000 lbs of Jet A

Please point to me any airplane crash where 67,000 lbs of fuel burned off in less than 5 minutes...

[wildbilln864]

63. as plainly seen in videos...

the majority of jet fuel, which is mostly kerosene, exploded outside the towers. But aside from that, how can you explain molten steel flowing like rivers underneath all three towers?

[Crowman1979]

5. I wonder if Dubai has a building code.

Although I'm wouldn't be surprised that a country which welcomes tax cheats also has lax regulations.

[Warpy]

31. They're not really big on infrastructure planning

like sewers and sewage treatment plants. The beautiful beaches are unsafe for swimming near the city.

This building was mostly trophy flats, probably sold to 1%er investors and unoccupied. Apparently they did manage to evacuate the people who actually lived there, one surmises mostly on the lower, non trophy floors.

[DeSwiss]

8. This is becoming......

...habit-forming.

- K&R

[Warpy]

32. It is. Maybe the architects need to think about sprinklers

fed by seawater pumped to a tank on the roof. Potable water is at a premium. Seawater, they got.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

12. That's got to be incredibly frightening if you're trapped in that thing.

I feel very bad for anyone inside.

[davidpdx]

15. That is some scary shit

I would hate to be one of those people stuck on the upper floors. I hope everyone got out ok.

[localroger]

16. So Irwin Allen is making YouTube vids now?

[Ruby the Liberal]

17. This was my first reaction when I saw a pic of that tower years ago,

"if it catches on fire, how will they get the people out"?

Sounds like they got them evacuated. I would love to know how.

[Mr.Bill]

20. Rachel Maddow just reported

the fire has been extinguished.

[lastlib]

21. and no injuries reported.

Good dinkum.

[Lefta Dissenter]

22. No injuries?

Wow and whew.

[Trillo]

27. Images, looks like a big torch.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Dubai+skyscraper+fire+pictures

It's even more impressive than tiki palm trees on fire, at least as a single phenom. From digitaljournal.com

[quadrature]

30. 'Torch'.... translation issue?...correct something done not...nt

[Warpy]

33. No, the building was designed to resemble a torch

with a steel and glass arrangement on top, lit at night to resemble a flame.

It just got a little too literal yesterday.

[petronius]

34. Actually, they got off lucky: the alternative names under consideration were

the Surprise Volcano, the Asteroid Impact, and the Sudden Unexplained Sinkhole.

[wildbilln864]

65. so has it collapsed yet? n/t

[wildbilln864]

66. still no collapse?

n/t