Fears for London schoolgirls believed to have fled to join Isis in Syria

[brooklynite]

Source: The Guardian

Counter-terror police have issued an appeal for information about three London schoolgirls who are believed to have fled to Islamic State-controlled Syria.

The three friends left their homes in east London last Tuesday and caught a flight to Istanbul, Turkey, from where they are feared to have tried to travel to the frontline in Syria.

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Counter-terrorism officers said the three girls left their homes before 8am last Tuesday providing their families with plausible reasons as to why they would be out for the day.

Instead they met and travelled to Gatwick airport. They boarded a Turkish Airlines flight, TK1966, which departed at 12:40pm to Istanbul, Turkey and landed at 6:40pm local time.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/20/fears-london-schoolgirls-isis-syria

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[redwitch]

1. Why oh why don't these girls know that ISIS hates women?

This is so sad.

[secondwind]

3. ISIS will show them how much they 'love' women

[Chemisse]

51. It really is sad. Their families are devastated.

I can only imagine what they've been told to lure them over. I remember what it was like to be a teen-aged girl.

Young girls love romance and adventure and are eager to fabricate the illusion of such, and can do so when given the slightest morsel. They pay no heed to the bad things they hear ("people just don't understand!&quot , and these bad things can even heighten the sense of purpose and romance.

The saddest thing is that they will lose this innocence in such an irrevocable way.

[secondwind]

2. I remember when kids would just run away for the day .... and come

home for dinner. These girls are going to find out that they bit off more than they can ever chew.

[geek tragedy]

4. Meh. Future Darwin winners.

About as much sympathy as I would have for young white kids setting off to join the KKK.

[christx30]

7. Naaa. These are females running off to

join ISIS. More like a young black man running off to join the KKK. "It's ok. They won't lynch me like they have done to countless others. I'm one of them." Smh

[geek tragedy]

10. LOL, like Clayton Bigsby.

Cannon fodder is rarely recruited from the ranks of the brilliant.

[JustAnotherGen]

26. My mind went there too!

Clayton is a perfect example!

[Oktober]

35. Agreed... Buh bye...

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

5. Do they not understand the word "concubine"? n/t

[jwirr]

27. I suspect they have not had that type of education yet. I pity them. They are about to learn.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

40. It really is tragic.

[SoapBox]

6. When it said "schoolgirls"....

I was thinking 8 year olds...they appear to be old enough to not be so stupid...they'll find out quickly how stupid they were.

[Bosonic]

8. UK(t+1) = UK(t) - (3 * Idiot)

[snooper2]

9. Actually, I have stated in the past all fundies in the World should gather together

for one final throw down and just kill each other off...

maybe it is happening?

[leftynyc]

11. And when they're sold

into a marriage of slavery, I'll have zero sympathy for them. I also would revoke their passports and never let them back into a western country. They are the very definition of traitors.

[jwirr]

28. That is just the beginning. They may also end up sex slaves to a group.

[leftynyc]

31. There is no "may" about it

That WILL happen to them. That's all women are good for to these vermin. And I hope it gets all the attention it deserves to serve as a lesson for any other young women who are thinking about joining them.

[fbc]

12. Woah! How about we tread a little lighter here?

These girls do not deserve to be raped or sold into slavery because they are making a mistake.

[geek tragedy]

13. Taking candy from strangers is a mistake. Joining a group because they behead

and burn alive aid workers and journalists is an act of depravity generally reserved to the most despicable of people.

Better that they meet their end over there than inflicting real damage from within civilized society.

[CJCRANE]

19. i think it's more about hormones.

They probably aren't allowed to mix with boys so an offer from a cute guy on social media to run away and get married may be tempting for a few.

[hugo_from_TN]

22. I think it is more about religious fervor.

If you read the recent article in The Atlantic you will get a better understanding of the motivation of these people to join the movement. They don't view it as an option, they view it as mandatory.

[CJCRANE]

43. I've read it. However, IMO the main motivators are power, sex, money.

I think Isis attracts psychopaths but teenage hormones and delusions are also part of the mix.

The kids who go over there don't know much about history or religion. They are groomed over the internet by predators and lured into a "Lord of the Flies" type of existence which for some must be exciting.

[christx30]

18. "I see ISIS over there beheading people. I see them raping women and selling them off for slavery.

I see them attempting genocide of any group that doesn't subscribe to their brand of faux Islam. I want to be a part of that!"

That's not a mistake. That's a decision. Traveling to a foreign country requires money and plannning.
And I don't want them to get raped or sold into slavery. But we all know it's probably going to happen. Either that, or they are going to be given weapons, they are going to try to kill women and children, and they are going to get killed by a Kurdish bullet or a Jordanian bomb or a US drone strike. They had the information, and they made a bad choice. They are going to live, or die, with the consequences.

[quakerboy]

24. Do they have the information?

I don't know about these young woment in specific, but with a slight twist in fates, I know people who effectively dont have that information, despite its prevelance.

Start from a religious fundy background. Teach your kids that the librul media, with all its science and "evidence" cant be trusted, that everything it says is lies. Teach them that godlessness is running rampant and ruining the whole world. Teach them that they are better, different, and should look down on, avoid, and otherwise scorn all those who don't share their beliefs. Teach them that dying, or better yet killing, for your faith is the highest honor.

Its not really a huge jump from there to joining a holy war, if you can get past the yahweh/allah divide. We have among us a small but still numerous group of people who have been taught to ignore all evidence and hate.

[christx30]

37. This ISIS thing isn't new.

They've been in operation for months. My 8 year old has gathered they are bad people just from seeing reports on them on the Daily Show (I usually try to turn it off when there's something too heavy, but the kid's got a good brain).
When did they leave for their trip? If it was this week, it was after the much publicized burning of that Jordanian pilot. "I want to be a part of that. It's a cause that speaks to me."
That's what it comes down to. They see the destruction and death. Blowin shit up. Killing people. And they want to do it too.
So they deserve absolutely no sympathy. They are going to die. Hopefully before they hurt anyone else.

[quakerboy]

41. Religeous extremism in general isnt new

Cults have been killing people for a whole lot of centuries.

And yet people are still able to be drawn in by new ones.

I'm not saying that these girls were justified. What I am saying is that I have known people who were raised in such extremist households here in the US that they could easily be drawn into a similar circumstances. Your kid is getting a good education that will serve him or her well to think things through, but not everyone gets that start in life.

I'm not saying its right. I'm saying it is unfortunately understandable. If you have been hammered from infancy to disbelieve whatever the media says, taught that its all a conspiracy to try and rob you of faith, then when the news comes and says X happened, which will challenge your faith, its not too surprising that some of them would say "no, that's a lie" or "I'm sure it was justified, the news is lying" We watched the whole republican establishment do the exact same thing leading up to the Presidents Reelection. Evidence be damned, it was all lies and Romney would rise supreme. Right up to, and in some cases past, the election results coming in.

[christx30]

42. Maybe they 're just idiot

teenagers trying to stick it to mom and dad? Idiots join gangs and commit crimes in this country a the time. We won't know unless they can be intercepted and brought back. But I don't see that happening.

[jwirr]

29. They may also be used to carry a suicide bomb.

[olegramps]

20. Who said the deserved to be raped or sold?

What I read was that this is a distinct possibility. I do think that countries should consider revoking their passports for aiding the enemy since the Islamic fanatics have declared war on the West. One of Europe's biggest fears is the return of those who have joined the ranks of radicals and what they may do to innocent people thereby justifying some constructive action.

[Renew Deal]

52. Nobody deserves that

But if they chose to go they are the enemy and deserve all of the privileges that come with it.

[Rhinodawg]

14. How the hell does 2-15 year olds and 1-16 year old have the money ...

and knowledge to pull this off ??

And quite frankly I think teenage girls tend to have more common sense than teenage boys. mho

[riderinthestorm]

15. The same.ones who are funneling young Muslim men to ISIS

Someone at their mosque is the culprit here for assisting them.

And those ISIS fuckers are to blame for their despicable ideology that sucks these young people in...



These poor young girls. My youngest at 15-16 was so incredibly stupid. Although her defiance exhibited itself a in.wild behavior that at worst landed her in the back of a police car, I know that if.a young girl was religious and.came across the apocalyptic theology of ISIS and felt they could join the new calibrate, their similar lack of impulse control and judgement will now result in a catastrophic nightmare.

[brooklynite]

23. But this has nothing to do with religion! Lone wolves!

At least, that's what I keep getting told.

[brooklynite]

17. Actually, it's not that hard in Europe...

Low cost carriers like EasyJet will sell you a ticket to Izmir for GBP 73.

[Blue_Tires]

38. When the ISIS "recuiters" get some nibbles on the line

they know how to reel them in...

"All you have to do is fly to Istanbul -- We'll do the rest from there!"

[Historic NY]

16. Well they won't be home for tea anytime soon, if ever.

parents just trust them to keep their passports, they should be in a bank safety deposit box.

[Snow Leopard]

21. I would think

That the parents probably exhibited some sympathy for ISIS that helped this along.

[CJCRANE]

44. They are groomed via the internet.

There isn't much the parents can do except take the smartphones off the kids.

[seveneyes]

25. What asshole taught these kids to follow their religion to the depths of murder and mayhem?

Follow the sickness for it leads to the top of the shit pile.

[samsingh]

33. they are fighting for the subjugation of women and the destruction of all other religions

[CJCRANE]

45. It leads to social media. The Isis guys can contact them directly

via Facebook and Twitter etc.

And the Turkish authorities have allowed thousands to go over the border into Syria, so it's pretty easy to go there.

[Politicalboi]

30. Stupid is as stupid does

Have a nice trip girls. Goodbye.

[samsingh]

32. this will not end well for them - gang rape and suicide bombings come to mind

[sendero]

34. A Darwin Award..

... threesome. How sad.

[Blue_Tires]

36. Don't those girls know they're just joining a bunch of disguised CIA agents?

At least that what some DUers keep telling me

[Kaleva]

39. Concerning the two Austrian girls who joined ISIS, one is reported to be dead and the other missing

"He added: 'Both were recruited by Islamic State. One was killed in the fighting in Syria, the other has disappeared.'

His confirmation comes three months after the Austrian government said it had informed both sets of parents of the girls that one of them might have been killed."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2879272/One-teenage-Austrian-poster-girls-ran-away-join-ISIS-killed-conflict-says.html#ixzz3SKJnsYTY

[Rhinodawg]

46. Terrible

Weren't there reports they were both pregnant ?

[Kaleva]

48. I had read that and also that they wanted to go home.

[freshwest]

47. Wonder what the parents are going to do. They may not be able to do anything.

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[workinclasszero]

49. So they want to get in on the hack peoples heads off/burn them alive/crucify/bury alive action eh?

Who the hell would join those violent evil pigs? Only someone just as evil obviously.

I hope they get what they deserve before they cause the horrible deaths of innocent people.

[Chemisse]

50. Why are children allowed to take flights out of the country?

If they want to stop the flow of kids to ISIS, they might want to start by not allowing them to leave the country without a parent's permission.

[muriel_volestrangler]

53. Syria girls: Trio have crossed into Syria, Met Police say

Three missing teenagers believed to be heading to join Islamic State militants are thought to have crossed into Syria, UK police say.

The London schoolgirls were smuggled into Syria from Turkey four or five days ago, the BBC understands.

Sources said the girls had entered Syria near the Kilis border crossing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31612666

[Rhinodawg]

56. Those girls will never be seen again.

[Dorian Gray]

54. Why can't these girls

do what the majority of teens do. Fall in love with the guy who drinks a little and stays out past curfew. I can't imagine what kind of depraved 15 year old is attracted to moving to Syria to join a group of people who MURDER and advocate genocide.

[Bonx]

55. So they murder a little, and genocide past curfew

Just kids having fun.