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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:16 PM Feb 2015

Giuliani: Obama Had a White Mother, So I’m Not a Racist

Source: NY Times



Former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York on Thursday defended his assertion that President Obama did not love America, and said that his criticism of Mr. Obama’s upbringing should not be considered racist because the president was raised by “a white mother.”

Mr. Giuliani’s remarks — made at a New York fund-raising event for Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin on Wednesday night and first reported by Politico — set off an uproar.

(...)

In an interview with The New York Times, Mr. Giuliani dismissed the criticism and said he was describing the worldview that had shaped Mr. Obama’s upbringing.

“Some people thought it was racist — I thought that was a joke, since he was brought up by a white mother, a white grandfather, went to white schools, and most of this he learned from white people,” Mr. Giuliani said in the interview. “This isn’t racism. This is socialism or possibly anti-colonialism.”

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/02/19/giuliani-obama-had-a-white-mother-so-im-not-a-racist/?partner=socialflow&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0



And "Amurica's Mayor" digs himself in deeper tonight.

"Anti-colonialism," eh?

Sounds like he's going full Dinesh D'Loser now.

I wonder who else was anti-clonialism and deserving of Rudy's scorn.....



Yeah, Rudy could never, ever be racist:

“Ninety-three percent of blacks are killed by other blacks,” Giuliani said, triggering a heated argument on NBC's "Meet the Press." “I would like to see the attention paid to that that you are paying to this.”
“White police officers wouldn’t be there,” Giuliani said to Dyson, “if you weren’t killing each other.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/11/23/giuliani-white-police-officers-wouldnt-be-there-if-you-werent-killing-each-other/

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Dorismond
- Abner Louima Trial Puts Giuliani, NYPD on Defensive
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/march99/newyork30.htm
- Giuliani Criticized for Amadou Diallo Shooting
http://archives.nbclearn.com/portal/site/k-12/flatview?cuecard=4303
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Giuliani: Obama Had a White Mother, So I’m Not a Racist (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Feb 2015 OP
Hmmm.. lol.. who gave Ghouli a bigger shovel! Cha Feb 2015 #1
I was about to suggest... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #64
Mr. Irrelevant, still working on his 2012 Florida strategy. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2015 #2
Oh, but ya see, KENYA...yeah Kenya was a colony. And because he's Kenyan... TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #3
Two words SCVDem Feb 2015 #4
He's lower then GP6971 Feb 2015 #5
indeed hollysmom Feb 2015 #14
Lower than... gregcrawford Feb 2015 #27
I'm sure if Obama had dated Rudy's daughter, he'd be black to him Adenoid_Hynkel Feb 2015 #6
Jesus dude just shut up GusBob Feb 2015 #7
911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911..... SoapBox Feb 2015 #8
Didn't he also join with Trump on the birther BS, too? freshwest Feb 2015 #19
They have a history together... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #55
With the vast majority of Americans rallying behind him in 9-11's aftermath... Adenoid_Hynkel Feb 2015 #9
The Generalissimo was pretty good LiberalElite Feb 2015 #17
not any more rtracey Feb 2015 #29
Yes. I was only LiberalElite Feb 2015 #45
OMG..Could he really be this stupid? whathehell Feb 2015 #10
For sure GP6971 Feb 2015 #13
It still amazes me seeing how far one can rise with so few brains. whathehell Feb 2015 #15
yes Skittles Feb 2015 #16
Lord, forgive him for he knows not what he says. Baitball Blogger Feb 2015 #11
Oh I think he knows exactly what he is saying rurallib Feb 2015 #28
But instead, he's making himself more and more irrelevant. Baitball Blogger Feb 2015 #30
true. he is digging one deep hole rurallib Feb 2015 #31
Dumbshit Doubledown alcibiades_mystery Feb 2015 #12
To think that this POS was considered by some to be a "progressive" republican, makes me puke still_one Feb 2015 #18
Great photo! Looks exactly like him. What a slimy, vicious little creep. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2015 #20
And now, true to form, he's gone and played the "Noun, verb and 9-11" card: Adenoid_Hynkel Feb 2015 #21
Building almost falling on him? Ya mean he was Euphoria Feb 2015 #26
Pulling a Biil O'Riley and a Brian Williams. Pants aflame... Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #44
shut up Rudi olddots Feb 2015 #22
And what, may I ask, is wrong with opposing colonialism? Jack Rabbit Feb 2015 #23
Right wingers will say, "if you don't like colonialism, you don't like America, alp227 Feb 2015 #24
Scumbag davidpdx Feb 2015 #25
Keep on digging that hole deeper, Mayor Clueless. Paladin Feb 2015 #32
This just shows that dementia hits all walks of life, even former NYC mayors. n/t albino65 Feb 2015 #33
. Aldo Leopold Feb 2015 #34
"Yea,I just hate his black father" SummerSnow Feb 2015 #35
He just doesn't know when to quit shanti Feb 2015 #36
I'm not a 'shaman' for naught. El Shaman Feb 2015 #37
OMFG, the "some-of-my-best-friends" routine. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2015 #38
cattleprod. obxhead Feb 2015 #51
Google the name Abner Louima. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2015 #56
He's kind of right knightmaar Feb 2015 #39
He's still an asshole though sakabatou Feb 2015 #50
Yes, but for entirely different reasons. knightmaar Feb 2015 #65
Fuck off Rudy, you bigoted asshole. blackspade Feb 2015 #40
As long as we're talking about this clown....... DeSwiss Feb 2015 #41
9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #42
Rudy G...has totally Coulterized himself...nt Stuart G Feb 2015 #43
He looks like something that crawled out of the sewer in a Blade movie aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #46
God, what a lousy POS Ghouliani is! bobjacksonk2832 Feb 2015 #47
That is just Rudy's way of saying: DFW Feb 2015 #48
That man, who repudiated his first wife on the grounds that she was his 2nd cousin when MADem Feb 2015 #49
Does he even know what PatSeg Feb 2015 #52
Did he really frigging say that?!! Wow, a COMPLETE idiot—and yes, racist!! C Moon Feb 2015 #53
Giuliani is nothing more that a wise guy in the Bush crime family. olddad56 Feb 2015 #54
every story about Giuliani should start, "a man who will never be president & not particularly... yurbud Feb 2015 #57
fine. They_Live Feb 2015 #58
Eh romanic Feb 2015 #59
Only a special kind of fool would make a statement like that publicly JonLP24 Feb 2015 #60
I see that Giuliani brought two shovels. Beacool Feb 2015 #61
Somebody needs to tell these Republicans HoosierCowboy Feb 2015 #62
So There father founding Feb 2015 #63
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
64. I was about to suggest...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 07:59 PM
Feb 2015

that he consider dropping the shovel, but it is fun watching him slowly implode.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
2. Mr. Irrelevant, still working on his 2012 Florida strategy.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:20 PM
Feb 2015

Hey Buick grille teeth, are you considering yet another losing campaign?

Bring it on, Ru911dy.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
3. Oh, but ya see, KENYA...yeah Kenya was a colony. And because he's Kenyan...
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:22 PM
Feb 2015

...derp...oh wait, Kenya was colonized by the BRITISH... oh f-ck that doesn't make sense. Er...

9-11!
9-11!
9-11!

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
6. I'm sure if Obama had dated Rudy's daughter, he'd be black to him
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:28 PM
Feb 2015

and that white half wouldn't get mentioned when racist daddy was apoplectic.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
9. With the vast majority of Americans rallying behind him in 9-11's aftermath...
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:33 PM
Feb 2015

Rudy had the opportunity to rise above his flaws and be a transformational leader.

But, instead, he blew his chance at leadership and reverted to being a divisive, opportunistic ass, representing the worst in politics, within mere weeks. And, following his disastrous 2008 presidential campaign, he's just a bitter old coot who can't get over not even getting nominated for an office he was measuring the drapes for in 2001.

An ugly, pathetic end to an ugly, vile career.

America dodged a massive, massive bullet in 2008 when this jerk lost.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
17. The Generalissimo was pretty good
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:14 AM
Feb 2015

in the 2 months after 9/11. Even I liked him. But then election time rolled around and he started musing openly about whether NYC could exist without him (the mayor is limited to two terms). The old Rudy we knew and loathed was back.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
28. Oh I think he knows exactly what he is saying
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:58 AM
Feb 2015

now he just has to convince 300 million Americans that what he said was right.
and so he opens his trap over and over and over.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
18. To think that this POS was considered by some to be a "progressive" republican, makes me puke
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:35 AM
Feb 2015

similar to the media characterization of mccain.

wow

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
21. And now, true to form, he's gone and played the "Noun, verb and 9-11" card:
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:42 AM
Feb 2015

In a glass of warm milk interview with fellow race-baiter Hannity:

On Wednesday night, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani told a private Manhattan audience, “I do not believe that the president loves America.” He followed that up Thursday morning by clarifying to Fox & Friends that President Barack Obama “sounds like more of a critic than a supporter” of this country. And now, in a radio interview with Sean Hannity, Giuliani stood by his statement once more, this time invoking the September 11th attacks to justify his point.

“I think this is a pivotal moment, and it took someone of your stature and your credibility on this issue to bring this very important debate to the forefront,” Hannity said, flattering his guest. “And, I know you’re going to be under fire, I really do. But it is so important.”

Giuliani told Hannity he’s been making a similar point for the past several years, but it finally got picked up by reporters. “And I’m not saying it was out of context, it wasn’t,” he said. When Hannity brought up the specter of another 9/11, Giuliani asserted, “You know, President Obama didn’t live through September 11, I did. President Obama didn’t almost have a building fall on him, myself and my police commissioner and my fire commissioner did.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/giuliani-defends-comments-on-obamas-patriotism-he-didnt-live-through-911-i-did/

Euphoria

(448 posts)
26. Building almost falling on him? Ya mean he was
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 07:45 AM
Feb 2015

standing on the island of Manhattan? Conflate much?

And yeah, Rudy, it's possible that the president doesn't love you. Please add me to the list.

Also, Rudy (apt name, btw), please respond to questions about your insistence that NYC emergency command communications be located in Bldg 7?

I've had it with this guy. For a long time.

alp227

(32,025 posts)
24. Right wingers will say, "if you don't like colonialism, you don't like America,
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 03:53 AM
Feb 2015

"because you get to LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF THE 13 COLONIES! Get out if you don't like America!" So? You don't have to "like" a country you live in.

Paladin

(28,262 posts)
32. Keep on digging that hole deeper, Mayor Clueless.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:22 AM
Feb 2015

I presume Rudy is leading the Repub's minority outreach program. At least I hope he is.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
35. "Yea,I just hate his black father"
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 01:14 PM
Feb 2015

what a pos.

He must think were stupid. Biracial people those who are half white and black are always 'all black' in the eyes of racist.

El Shaman

(583 posts)
37. I'm not a 'shaman' for naught.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 01:29 PM
Feb 2015

Pale cutis, excessive wrinkles and hanging gobbler are definite signs of ,on-coming, dementia:
seek , mental, help soon Mr. Rudolfino Giuliani perfavore!!

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
56. Google the name Abner Louima. . .
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 03:42 PM
Feb 2015

. . .and you'll understand why I say "broomstick"

Also, Google the words "Giuliani time"

Get yourself a barf bag while you do this.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
42. 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11!
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 03:35 PM
Feb 2015

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aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
46. He looks like something that crawled out of the sewer in a Blade movie
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:13 AM
Feb 2015



So as long as Obama had a white mother he can say anything to him, including calling him the "n" word if he so chooses?
 

bobjacksonk2832

(50 posts)
47. God, what a lousy POS Ghouliani is!
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 03:35 AM
Feb 2015

Why can't this idiot just stick to blathering about 9/11 over and over again, instead of making such foolish bigoted remarks that will come back to bite him in the ass later? I can't even imagine the horrorshow we'd endure if this buffoon was in the White House.

DFW

(54,396 posts)
48. That is just Rudy's way of saying:
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 03:20 PM
Feb 2015

"My mom was white, too, so why can't I be president? WAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

MADem

(135,425 posts)
49. That man, who repudiated his first wife on the grounds that she was his 2nd cousin when
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 06:49 PM
Feb 2015

he tired of her (but not a second before) needs to be pushed, forcefully, from the public square.

I am so offended by his bullshit. Sick of it, too.

PatSeg

(47,475 posts)
52. Does he even know what
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 01:06 PM
Feb 2015

anti-colonialism means? I recall Newt Gingrich saying stuff like that about the President a while back and it made no sense then either.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
57. every story about Giuliani should start, "a man who will never be president & not particularly...
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 04:34 PM
Feb 2015

admired by voters in his own party."

and then maybe the writer will realize there's no reason to write the story at all.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
59. Eh
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:34 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:24 PM - Edit history (1)

"You can't be racist against whites (or half-whites in this case)" meme being used by Rudy??? Eh just plain stupidity on his end. What an irrelevant moran (and yes he's a bigot as well), he's no mayor of America. Well at least the America I believe in. :/

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
60. Only a special kind of fool would make a statement like that publicly
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:18 AM
Feb 2015

Wow -- My first memory of Giuliani mentioned was in the Chris Rock Show of the 90's where one of his on-the-street skits/interview was a man repeatedly screaming "Fuck Giuliani" repeatedly. IIRC, he was also selling "Fuck Giuliani" T-shirts.

I really didn't know the man, Biden best sums up everything I knew of him "A noun + a verb + 9/11".

Now I'm sensing he must have been a special kind of asshole (more so but many like him special kind of assholes in the Republican party)

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
61. I see that Giuliani brought two shovels.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:47 AM
Feb 2015

One to dig the hole he jumped in and another one to cover himself with the dirt he dug out.

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
62. Somebody needs to tell these Republicans
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:32 AM
Feb 2015

Obama won't be running in 2016. Now we see why republicans are always behind the times...

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