Ukraine rebels disavow ceasefire at encircled town

[Omaha Steve]

Source: Reuters

Ukraine's rebels disavowed a new truce on Sunday hours after it took effect, saying it did not apply to the town where most fighting has taken place in recent weeks.

Guns fell abruptly silent at midnight across much of eastern Ukraine in line with the ceasefire agreement, reached after a week of diplomacy led by France and Germany.

But pro-Russian rebels announced they would not observe the truce at Debaltseve, where Ukrainian army forces were encircled and Kiev military said rebel attacks on the town steadily increased from mid-afternoon on Sunday.

"Of course we can open fire (on Debaltseve). It is our territory," senior rebel commander Eduard Basurin told Reuters. "The territory is internal: ours. And internal is internal. But along the line of confrontation there is no shooting."

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/15/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSKBN0LH14T20150215

[Duckhunter935]

1. Am I surprised, no

They are also doing the same thing south along the coast. I guess they are not pulling back the artillery like they agreed to also.

I hope the Ukraine government does to get the moral high ground

[newthinking]

2. Again, like before, there is activity on both sides

There was shelling of Donesk only one hour after the cease fire (from the "cauldron&quot .

Getting things simmered down will take time, and there is a lot of work yet to be done on the accords. A lot of bad blood occurred between the two sides.

[Duckhunter935]

3. yes, but one side once again

seems to be ignoring the cease fire it signed. They can not pick and choose what parts of the line they will cease fire on. The "pro-Russians" have already stated Debaltseve is not part of it.

[Igel]

6. Moral high ground is pointless.

You can't stage artillery on it. And nobody's going to defend another if it means a bloody nose. We're stalwart protectors of those abused by piss-ant enemies, esp. if we can just lob bombs at them from 15k feet. Otherwise it's the Order of the Brown Trousers for us.


For many, the moral high ground is whatever you capture and get. Part of the "greed is good" movement, esp. when you thoroughly dehumanize those you need to take from.

They've also disavowed any need for letting the Ukr government take control over the borders.

Of course, this comes on the heels of shelling the evacuation of the injured yesterday. Not reported in Fellow-traveller news it didn't happen. That sums up much of Russian history. The truth is whatever you let people believe, with a concerted effort to make sure that they believe what you let them.

[newthinking]

4. Sloppy reporting, or on purpose. The press conference was Saturday, before the truce took

effect.
But surely the reporter knew that but it would not make as much impact as a little lie.

That is the trouble with msm, it is full of little lies aimed at making the news, rather than reporting it.


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[7962]

5. Putin will take and kill until he's stopped. So far, no one is willing to do it.

So it will continue. Having critics abroad killed started years ago; Alexander Litveninko, Anna Politskovskya, many journalists, etc. And he will not stop because he knows the world is scared of him. Its just like N Korea, except they keep their crazy pretty much to themselves.

[Blue_Tires]

7. The usual moron columnists will concoct a perfectly good reason why this is Washington's fault...