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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:03 PM Feb 2015

LePage asks Supreme Court to OK Maine plan to cut young adults from Medicaid

Source: Bangor Daily News

AUGUSTA, Maine — Gov. Paul LePage wants the nation’s highest court to rule on whether Maine can remove about 6,000 young Mainers from the state’s Medicaid rolls.

LePage filed a request with the U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday, asking the court to reverse a November decision by the 1st Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled against the governor.

Medicaid coverage for the young Mainers in question has remained intact during the legal battle between state and federal government.

In 2012, the state sought to drop nondisabled 19- and 20-year-olds from the government-funded health plan. But the federal government denied the request, citing provision of the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, which requires states to maintain the same eligibility requirements in place in 2010 until 2019.

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LePage asks Supreme Court to OK Maine plan to cut young adults from Medicaid (Original Post) jpak Feb 2015 OP
Way to go, LePew! KamaAina Feb 2015 #1
That's funny rpannier Feb 2015 #8
Folks in Maine call him "The Penguin" jpak Feb 2015 #9
Most fitting rpannier Feb 2015 #12
That guy is NUTS! JDDavis Feb 2015 #2
Hope he gets his ass handed to him. eShirl Feb 2015 #3
Governor Death Panel. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #4
Governor turbinetree Feb 2015 #5
Let them eat cake? sakabatou Feb 2015 #6
Why doesn't he just Spirochete Feb 2015 #7
Pro-life indeed Release The Hounds Feb 2015 #10
Here is the decision he is appealing from: happyslug Feb 2015 #11
Why does he keep getting elected? n/t murielm99 Feb 2015 #13
murielm99 asks a great question, how did he get reelected? greatlaurel Feb 2015 #14
Any young adult leaving foster care TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2015 #15
That is a real problem here in Ohio. The evil GOP have cut many of these kids from any help. greatlaurel Feb 2015 #19
The Democratic candidate was openly gay and there was a bear baiting ban on the ballot jpak Feb 2015 #16
OK, I figured there had to be some dirty tricks to get LePage reelected. greatlaurel Feb 2015 #17
Yup. n/t Gormy Cuss Feb 2015 #18

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
8. That's funny
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:09 PM
Feb 2015

I've been using Monsieur LeFarge, husband of the knitting lady in the front row of the guillotine

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
2. That guy is NUTS!
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:11 PM
Feb 2015

Thats the only explanation for everything he says and does.

What a strange strange dude he is.


I can't believe the voters of Maine gave him another term.

The first term was bad enough.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
7. Why doesn't he just
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 06:28 PM
Feb 2015

lobby for a bill that will allow him to execute poor people? He obviously wants to.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
11. Here is the decision he is appealing from:
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:31 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:09 PM - Edit history (1)

http://media.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/14-1300P-01A.pdf

The Attorney General of Maine agrees with the Federal Government (and against the Governor) that what Maine is proposing violating Federal Law AND does NOT violate the US Constitution.

From the Opinion

The Attorney General of Maine, Janet T. Mills, as interested party-intervenor, argues that the rejection of Maine DHHS's proposed amendment is constitutional.


This concern 2% of 1/3 of the state budget (or .6% of the budget, NOT 6 % 6/10th of a percent). From the Opinion:

MaineCare makes up a major portion of Maine's annual outlays, accounting for just over one-third of the state's total budget in 2013 (Footnote 3)

Foot note 3: Maine's total state and federal Medicaid expenditures for fiscal year 2012 were $2.4 billion. According to Attorney General Mills, coverage for 19- and 20-year-olds (the group for which Maine sought to repeal coverage) represented less than two percent of that figure.


The Court of appeals then went on and said the following but the US SUpreme Court decision in regards to the expansion of Medicaid under ACA:

The Court struck down only the penalty for noncompliance, not the expansion itself. Id. at 2607. That is, the Court held that the U.S. DHHS could not condition the granting of all federal Medicaid funds on a state's participation in the new expanded program, but was permitted to condition funds for the new expanded program on participation in the new program.


In short the 1st Circuit ruled that the US Supreme court case that stuck down the restrictions on the States under the ACA was do to the changes Congress adopted were to FORCE that states to adopt those changes as oppose to technical changes to programs the states already were running under Medicaid:

In short, the MOE provision as applied here does not create a new program and falls comfortably within Congress's express reservation of power to "alter" or "amend" the terms of the Medicaid statute in its coverage of previously covered groups.


Maine says that it can stop providing Medicaid to 18 to 20 years old even through it had done so the past, for such coverage was NOT required prior to the adoption of the ACA:

Maine DHHS contends that, regardless of its earlier choice to provide coverage for low-income 19- and 20-year olds, Congress had not previously mandated this coverage, so the now-mandated MOE coverage is "new." It argues that "Congress cannot threaten to withdraw all Medicaid funds from a State for failing or refusing to cover categories of adults for whom Medicaid has never previously mandated coverage," regardless of the fact the state had chosen to provide such coverage. In fact, Congress can do so and it has done so, on numerous occasions. Moreover, the NFIB plurality expressly said Congress is allowed to do so, so long as the change effected by the expansion is a shift in degree rather than a shift in kind.


The court then points out that Maine is trying to say that it could discontinued what Maine had been doing and any requirement that Congress says Maine can NOT discontinued what Maine had been doing is unconstitutional. The Court then REJECTS that argument:

Maine DHHS's argument that the MOE provision is indistinguishable from the Medicaid expansion considered in NFIB is, as explained, unpersuasive. As it affects Maine, the MOE provision requires Maine to do no more than continue to cover low-income individuals aged 18 to 20 for a period of nine years, and in exchange Maine will receive the classic funding. By contrast, the new Medicaid program expansion would have required Maine to cover all low-income individuals indefinitely. NFIB, 132 -27-S. Ct. at 2606. Those changes are not the same nor even analogous


The court goes on a destroys the other arguments of Maine as to being able to cut out what it had previously agreed to. Good opinion, including a comment that the Supreme Court Decision is split decision with no majority opinion, thus to be narrowly construed.

Given that the previous case involving ACA did NOT have a majority opinion issued, I suspect the US Supreme Court will avoid this case. Ideally the Court likes cases it can decided 9-0, and that is most of its cases (and no one reports on them, for they tend to be legal interpretation of the law). Split decision are disfavored and when such decision looks like it will happen, unless something other reason shows up, the US Supreme Court will avoid the case.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
14. murielm99 asks a great question, how did he get reelected?
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 10:59 AM
Feb 2015

The man is deranged. The removal of 19 and 20 year olds from Medicaid is a death sentence to many of these kids. If they are on Medicaid they obviously have no one to help them get insurance and are just starting out. Some may be trying to work low paying.no benefit part-time jobs just to get enough money to survive or if lucky further their educations.

Many of these kids have probably been in foster care and have no one to help them out. What a mean spirited and evil thing to do to these young people who are in need of a hand up not a bootheal to keep them down.

What a monster. How is the news media not all over this showing how vile this really is? What is wrong in the beautiful state of Maine?

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
15. Any young adult leaving foster care
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 11:15 AM
Feb 2015

should automatically be granted healthcare until a certain age, preferably around 25 or 26 until we actually get healthcare for all. These kids have enough knocks against them, already.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
19. That is a real problem here in Ohio. The evil GOP have cut many of these kids from any help.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 01:00 PM
Feb 2015

There were a few news stories about former foster care kids who could no longer get needed meds and other medical health care. It dropped out of the news media in 2014, as they could not have anything negative in the news against Kasich and the GOP legislative wrecking crew. Kasich accepted Medicaid from the ACA, so some of these kids got help from that, too. Thank goodness for the ACA, it could be better but is has saved a lot of people already.

Those poor young adults coming out of foster care, often get just turned out on the street once they turn 18. Once the foster parents stop getting that paycheck from the state they throw the poor kids out here in Ohio. It is a terrible system. I have seen articles in the news media about kids having nowhere to go and are still in high school.

We can afford to take care of everyone.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
16. The Democratic candidate was openly gay and there was a bear baiting ban on the ballot
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 11:33 AM
Feb 2015

That got the goons blood boiling.

and they voted for LePage

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
17. OK, I figured there had to be some dirty tricks to get LePage reelected.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 12:19 PM
Feb 2015

Thank you for the information. The creepy GOP here in Ohio put a gay marriage ban on the ballot in 2004 to hide behind while they stole the election for Bush away from Kerry. Rural Ohio was clearly going to go for John Kerry that year. The number of Kerry signs outnumbered Bush 2 to 1 in rural areas. It was even more in lopsided in the urban areas. They had to go to extraordinary measures to steal the presidential election that year here in Ohio. In one rural county, an elections employee actually caught an employee of the company that made the voting machines tampering with the machine. Nothing came of it since the state government was run by the GOP and the news media in Ohio is owned by a bunch of right wing nuts.

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