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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 01:31 PM Feb 2015

North Carolina mom with 4 kids, one with cerebral palsy, has winning Powerball ticket

Source: KDVR

SHALLOTTE, N.C. — One of the three winning tickets in Wednesday’s massive Powerball jackpot belongs to a 26-year-old North Carolina mother with four children, one of whom has cerebral palsy, WECT reported.

Marie Holmes bought the ticket at a Scotchman convenience store in Shallotte, N.C. She takes home part of the $564.1 million jackpot.

The ticket is worth $188 million in an annuity paid over 30 years or Holmes can take $127 million in a lump-sum payment before taxes.

“I thought I was going to have a heart attack when I saw the ticket and checked it,” Holmes said.

Read more: http://kdvr.com/2015/02/13/north-carolina-mom-with-4-kids-one-with-cerebral-palsy-has-winning-powerball-ticket/

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North Carolina mom with 4 kids, one with cerebral palsy, has winning Powerball ticket (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2015 OP
So happy this went to someone deserving..... redstatebluegirl Feb 2015 #1
+1 mmonk Feb 2015 #45
How good to see her winning! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2015 #2
Perfect!!!nt bravenak Feb 2015 #3
I'm guessing that this one will be allowed to pass the judgmental minds who Baitball Blogger Feb 2015 #4
Really TNNurse Feb 2015 #21
I'm also guessing that she will be given a pass kentauros Feb 2015 #62
My prediction is Three years from now she will be broke bigdarryl Feb 2015 #5
I would recommend she takes the annuity since she's only 26. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #12
Yes I agree INdemo Feb 2015 #35
The worst she can fuckup is one year at a time. She'll have time to learn. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #42
That happens to a lot of lottery winners. nt TeamPooka Feb 2015 #22
If she takes the annuity and hires a good financial adviser maybe not. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #27
Her life is about to get very problematic Kelvin Mace Feb 2015 #6
Most certainly Catherine Vincent Feb 2015 #19
I don't think she has a choice. romanic Feb 2015 #24
Welcome to DU, romanic! calimary Feb 2015 #29
They force the person owning the ticket Kelvin Mace Feb 2015 #43
That's the kind of problem I wish I had demwing Feb 2015 #39
Me too. appalachiablue Feb 2015 #50
ME too! What a problem to have- Such a deserving lady & family, great. appalachiablue Feb 2015 #51
yes. I would sign up with Lifelock and then disappear for a couple years. GreatGazoo Feb 2015 #57
... and the sad thing is, every penny she's ever recieved in state or fed assistance ... Myrina Feb 2015 #7
I am sure she can cover it. Welfare assistance ain't that much relatively speaking. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #13
That is for sure. jwirr Feb 2015 #26
I guess that's my point ... Myrina Feb 2015 #44
god, that's not fair. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #60
Yes, thanks .... we are .... Myrina Feb 2015 #63
127 million. I think she'll be okay. nt TeamPooka Feb 2015 #23
Medicaid has been this way for many years. I can see the reasons for this law - many of my jwirr Feb 2015 #25
Just made my day. I hope she gets good honest legal advice with this. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #8
Meanwhile tens of millions of other poor people are spending their cash NOT winning a thing. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #9
Well, that isn't her problem and if those tens of millions spend their cash that way, monmouth4 Feb 2015 #14
My opinion of lotteries is in the minority, tens of millions of tickets purchased makes that clear. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #15
Bu bu but it lowers property taxes! Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #32
Yeah that's always my first thought when I hear these things too... F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #40
But the expense of millions is voluntary and most of them aren't poor notadmblnd Feb 2015 #46
That's not really true. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #49
thanks for all the links. I will explore them notadmblnd Feb 2015 #56
Happy to do so. Have a good day :) nt F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #58
Now I don't mind losing!! Great news! Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #10
She can afford it now and she and her children will need some physical protection..it was NC kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #11
I bet the father of her kids comes back too Politicalboi Feb 2015 #16
The creeps will come out it's unfortunately true. Hope she has a good head, BS detector or appalachiablue Feb 2015 #53
Good for her and her family. May it bring them what they require. benld74 Feb 2015 #17
I just reallyreallyreally hope this is a blessing for all. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #18
Cool shenmue Feb 2015 #20
Coming forward was a massive mistake. Dawson Leery Feb 2015 #28
Makes me feel a little bit better packman Feb 2015 #30
The first thing she said she'd do is tithe. yallerdawg Feb 2015 #31
After taxes of course! Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #33
You should buy more lottery tickets and show her how it's supposed to be spent. LanternWaste Feb 2015 #36
I'm in Alabama. yallerdawg Feb 2015 #37
That is so awesome to hear! C Moon Feb 2015 #34
Good for her Gothmog Feb 2015 #38
I am so happy for her heaven05 Feb 2015 #41
fraud? CONN Feb 2015 #47
she didn't buy a scratch ticket... druidity33 Feb 2015 #52
she supposedly bought it from her uncle CONN Feb 2015 #54
yeah but druidity33 Feb 2015 #55
ah ok... not just scratch off CONN Feb 2015 #59
why are you claiming fraud? druidity33 Feb 2015 #61
not claiming fraud- just questioning and pointing out study that 50% of winners are connected(eom) CONN Feb 2015 #64
Yay! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #48
Well this is a feel good story! Greybnk48 Feb 2015 #65

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. So happy this went to someone deserving.....
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 01:35 PM
Feb 2015

I hope she gets good financial advice so it lasts. I would have to move and leave no forwarding address or my relatives would be on my doorstep.... .

Good for her!

Baitball Blogger

(46,716 posts)
4. I'm guessing that this one will be allowed to pass the judgmental minds who
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 01:42 PM
Feb 2015

were upset about the winner from Puerto Rico.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
62. I'm also guessing that she will be given a pass
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 09:24 AM
Feb 2015

by the judgmental minds around here that always have to tell us the odds and mock any of us for having dreams or any sense of fun.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
5. My prediction is Three years from now she will be broke
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 01:44 PM
Feb 2015

Unless she hires a very good financial adviser like Lou Hutt

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
27. If she takes the annuity and hires a good financial adviser maybe not.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 03:19 PM
Feb 2015

Too many people though, think, "what could go wrong since there is so much money?" Turns out, a lot.

She has already messed up though by identifying herself so soon. Many big winners wait until they have lined up a good lawyer and financial adviser before claiming the prize. There usually are ways to claim the prize without publicly revealing your real name.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
6. Her life is about to get very problematic
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 02:07 PM
Feb 2015

The very last thing I would do would be to let my name go out to the press that I had a winning ticket. She is going to be hounded by every relative, friend, grifter, and hardship case in the state.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
24. I don't think she has a choice.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 03:08 PM
Feb 2015

Most national lotteries force winners to be publicized before handing out the money.

calimary

(81,295 posts)
29. Welcome to DU, romanic!
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 03:24 PM
Feb 2015

Glad you're here! I hope she doesn't get taken in by a bunch of fly-by-nights. She can use that money. Anyone with a special-needs child deserves extra help.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
43. They force the person owning the ticket
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 04:40 PM
Feb 2015

to identify themselves for tax purposes. I would take my winning ticket, find a good law firm, create a Chapter S corporation that's sole asset would be the winning ticket. The law firm would be listed as the corporation's officers, I would be the sole shareholder. Since it would not be a publicly-traded, the shareholders need not be revealed (this would require incorporating in Delaware if memory serves). The corporation would cash ticket, pay the taxes, and then pay me dividends (which would also be taxed, but I am willing to pay for the privacy).

My name stays out of it and I don't have to put up with the hassle that come with publicly having a sudden huge sum of money.

Barring that, only play in the states that allow you to remain anonymous.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
57. yes. I would sign up with Lifelock and then disappear for a couple years.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:32 PM
Feb 2015

tour the world, see and do and learn a lot more THEN make more decisions about how to spend the rest of the money and the rest of my life.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
7. ... and the sad thing is, every penny she's ever recieved in state or fed assistance ...
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 02:07 PM
Feb 2015

.... is going to be garnished from whatever payment option she selects.

I had something similar happen when my dad passed away several years ago & his estate went thru probate. Even though I had worked and paid into the 'social services' system with my tax dollars for some 20 years BEFORE the accident. the state was first in line ordering me to pay back every penny I'd received in medical assistance and food stamps from when I was injured in a car accident while pregnant & not able to work for a year.

There is no statute of limitations as to when they can come at you with a bill for any and everything they've ever helped you with, should you get a break financially.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
44. I guess that's my point ...
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 04:47 PM
Feb 2015

... her disabled daughter is going to need a lifetime of care that's going to cost her a TON out of pocket.
And she's got other kids.

In my case, my inheritance from my dad was $26,000. And the state asked for 15,000 back. I was a full time single mom, student and only working part time. The money they 'took' essentially put me right back on the edge of being 1 disaster away from needing assistance again, except that I was aterisked out of eligibility because of the full inheritance amount. Oh and I had to pay income taxes on it too.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
63. Yes, thanks .... we are ....
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 09:41 AM
Feb 2015

They literally do anything they can to KEEP you poor. IMHO, a winning like that lottery ticket - or any kind of inheritance etc should earn you a 'congrats, have a nice life, please don't call us' note from the gov't but instead they take juuuuust enough of it away to keep you on a tightrope. I'm certain mine wasn't the only instance.



jwirr

(39,215 posts)
25. Medicaid has been this way for many years. I can see the reasons for this law - many of my
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 03:12 PM
Feb 2015

richer neighbors would give the farm to their sons and daughters and then go to the nursing home and let Medicaid pay for it. Today that can no longer happen because Medicaid can ask for the money out of the estate. When my grandmother went into the nursing home all she had was a house. The county asked that it be sold and the money used for her needs. That is why they bought their home as part of their retirement plan and she was proud to pay what she could.

I did not know that anyone ever had to pay back for food stamps. It is a federal program not a state program.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Meanwhile tens of millions of other poor people are spending their cash NOT winning a thing.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 02:18 PM
Feb 2015

Lotteries are a backwards, backdoor tax on the poor and a Pablum for real solutions to poverty.

monmouth4

(9,708 posts)
14. Well, that isn't her problem and if those tens of millions spend their cash that way,
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 02:24 PM
Feb 2015

it is their cash. I wish her well...

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
40. Yeah that's always my first thought when I hear these things too...
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 04:05 PM
Feb 2015

How many people had to lose for her to win? I have nothing against her, but I do against the people who perpetuate and revel in a system that creates very few winners at the expense of millions.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
46. But the expense of millions is voluntary and most of them aren't poor
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:26 PM
Feb 2015

If you look at past winners, most have been solidly middle class (not hurting for nothing). Besides, no one is required to buy lottery tickets. I don't.

I'm more happy for the lady in need that won than I would be for someone that won and didn't really need it.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
49. That's not really true.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:54 PM
Feb 2015

Gambling can be an addiction that is just as strong as chemical dependency, and it very much hurts the poor. Lotteries are pretty terrible institutions.

Awesome video by John Oliver, who does a great job on state's lotteries:
http://gawker.com/john-oliver-shoots-down-every-reason-for-playing-the-st-1656769898

A good summary of why lotteries hurt the poor disproportionately:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/05/20/2035751/lottery-powerball-poverty-state-budgets/

One of the studies that was linked in the above article:
http://www.cmu.edu/news/archive/2008/July/july24_lottery.shtml

An explanation of how the lottery hurts the local economy of the place it's in:
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/15/10_reasons_state_lotteries_ruin_the_economy_partner/

More anti-lottery stuff from a less liberal source, if you want it:
http://www.businessinsider.com/lottery-is-a-tax-on-the-poor-2012-4?op=1

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
11. She can afford it now and she and her children will need some physical protection..it was NC
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 02:20 PM
Feb 2015

and haters are out there.

I feel really joyous about this. I have a CP person in my extended family and I am friends with two people (or was friends with two...one died a few years ago.) This young girls had her hands full. I hope and pray for all the best for her.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
16. I bet the father of her kids comes back too
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 02:29 PM
Feb 2015

Money has a way of bringing shit into your life even if you don't want it. I hope she is happy, and doesn't have too many take advantage of her.

appalachiablue

(41,140 posts)
53. The creeps will come out it's unfortunately true. Hope she has a good head, BS detector or
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:03 PM
Feb 2015

knows some one who does, for her protection. Hard to think that way but stuff happens.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
18. I just reallyreallyreally hope this is a blessing for all.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 02:39 PM
Feb 2015

So many people are actually destroyed by the sudden landing of all that money, but this young lady sounds not only deserving and in need of it, but it sounds like she's got her head screwed on pretty well:

When she was asked if she’s ready to deal with that much money, Holmes said, “I’m ready for it. I’m ready to embrace the change. I’m very grateful for what’s about to happen for my family.”

Holmes plans to set up college funds for her children and buy a new house
.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
28. Coming forward was a massive mistake.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 03:23 PM
Feb 2015

She needed to get an attorney with expertise in estates AND taxes. Let them make an investment trust for her winnings and keep your head low.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
30. Makes me feel a little bit better
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 03:29 PM
Feb 2015

that the $20 I spent on it eventually ended up doing some good.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
31. The first thing she said she'd do is tithe.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 03:30 PM
Feb 2015

Because without God, she wouldn't have won.

Now, do we tithe before or after taxes?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. You should buy more lottery tickets and show her how it's supposed to be spent.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 03:50 PM
Feb 2015

You should buy more lottery tickets and show her how it's supposed to be spent.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
41. I am so happy for her
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 04:08 PM
Feb 2015

I am sure it can help her. I just pray it doesn't cause her more grief. Big money has a way of doing that. I send her good vibes....

CONN

(272 posts)
47. fraud?
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:44 PM
Feb 2015

seems that a lot of folks related to owners of convenience stores are the 'lucky' winners.

see story in Asbury Park Press on this phenomenon:
http://www.app.com/story/news/investigations/2014/12/05/nj-lottery-investigation-ticket-discounting/19948363/

just wonder if someone handed the uncle tickets to check....

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
52. she didn't buy a scratch ticket...
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:00 PM
Feb 2015

is she somehow related to the store/owner that sold her the ticket?



CONN

(272 posts)
54. she supposedly bought it from her uncle
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:06 PM
Feb 2015

see story : http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/n-mother-claims-win-part-564m-powerball-jackpot-article-1.2114097

says she "bought" ticket from her uncle. I'd say play the camera at time ticket was purchased to see who actually bought it.

From Asbury Park News (NJ):
The serial prizewinners who are also lottery merchants — mostly mom and pop-type store operators — stretch across the state, from Paterson in the north to Atlantic City, the Press found.

A leading lottery statistician calculated that some of these people would have to have spent more than $1 million on tickets over the course of their winning streaks to be so successful.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
55. yeah but
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:21 PM
Feb 2015

the other article you pointed to said the potential fraud involved scratch tickets. Did she buy more than one ticket? Are you suggesting this is somehow fraud? How do you propose that was managed?



CONN

(272 posts)
59. ah ok... not just scratch off
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:44 PM
Feb 2015

Here's another story that mentioned Pick4 number games:
Report: Half of N.J.'s most frequent lottery winners are lottery retailers, family members
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2014/12/report_njs_most_frequent_lottery_winners_are_lottery_retailers_family_members.html

So someone hands the clerk a few tickets to check. He looks and says sorry handing back, but switching out the winner

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
61. why are you claiming fraud?
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 08:03 AM
Feb 2015

Just because other people have done it, you suspect this woman? Really? Maybe she frequents her uncle's store because he's, well, her uncle... you know, shopping at a "family-owned" business is always better.

:eyeroll:

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
65. Well this is a feel good story!
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 10:29 AM
Feb 2015

I guess I can quit cursing the winners of "my" money! It's people like her (and me) that I always hope will win.

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